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    There are so many important skills to sales, one is not being afraid to ask for larger amounts then what you think the customer will pay for. Thats why when a customer has agreed to a dance and I take them to the lap dance room, I ask the customer if he wants to do $80, $100 or a $150 dance??? This gives them choices, however it often leads to the annoying conversation of "whats the difference?" and "what do i get for each?".. then I have to come up with persuasive and creative answers, while still not promising anything that is breaking the club rules. If they still want to be tightasses they will say, how about 50? and I try to upsell them to $70 or $80. I have stripper friends who straight out ask for $100 every dance, just telling the customer a dance is $100, and they often get it. Sometimes I don't feel balsy enough to do this, but when Friday and Saturday night is in full swing i do!
    Never tell them just one price, like if a standard dance is $50 at your club, don't just say "$50 please".. give the customer higher options, and push for them I have recently heard of a dancer changing $500 for a double with 2 girls and 4 customers watching for 15 minutes inside a club. It takes a lot of fake confidence to do this, but well worth it. Also, you might get the odd customer that is like 'oh my god, well i can't afford it".. but thats when you can be like "okay babe, well what did you want to do?" thats a last resort, if you think they might want to walk out. However, in my experience negotiating prices this way, i haven't lost any dances. I have had to be prepared for tight asses who still only want to cough up $20.

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    I only dance topless for $40/ song, $20 is top on no touching. Combine 3 topless dances is only $100, I just made $100 in less than 10 min. I love upselling, only way to hustle IMO.

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    I would fucking love to charge $40/song. I work in a club with $10 floor dances (where most girls give heavy contact anyway!) and $20 in the semi-private room. Upselling is ridiculously hard because the guys are mostly regulars and like to argue about what other girls charge. A lot won't even go for the time block option (mostly ones that are trying to test contact levels).

    I can occasionally get a 15 min/$100, which is only 4 songs, and if it's busy enough I can get away with refusing to do the $10 dances. I was thinking to charge the 'contact tester' guys $50/3 just to guarantee they can't bail after 1 or 2 songs.

    Do you girls have any price point suggestions you think might be stomachable for these guys, and that would boost my income? Or do you think it's worth a shot to just go ahead and spit out ridiculous numbers and hope they won't just change their minds entirely?
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    I always ask for a VIP room first (one hour $300, half hour $150...don't have that much? Okay fine let's just do a couple couch dances $30 plus tip.) My money has doubled since doing this. I remember this sales tactic in my psychology class as well...ask for a big "favor" first, then a smaller "favor" doesn't seem like such a big deal.

    Selina could you possibly do half an hour for $200? I think $50/3 is good...very reasonable. Otherwise I'd offer the $100/15 minutes first every time and work your way down the menu. Ask every single guy even if he looks poor (or IS poor!) One of my best regulars only makes $10 an hour or something and does a VIP with me at least once a week if not more. I have no idea how he affords it, nor do I care. I'm still amazed at how many guys will shell out ridiculous amounts of money just because you asked.

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    I try to remember to do the 15/$100. Then at least they are obligated to go get the $20 dances to avoid being a cheapskate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chloe25 View Post
    ..... is $100, and they often get it. Sometimes I don't feel balsy enough to do this, but when Friday and Saturday night is in full swing i do!
    Never tell them just one price, like if a standard dance is $50 at your club, don't just say "$50 please".. give the customer higher options, and push for them I have recently heard of a dancer changing $500 for a double with 2 girls and 4 customers watching for 15 minutes inside a club. It takes a lot of fake confidence to do this, but well worth it. Also, you might get the odd customer that is like 'oh my god, well i can't afford it".. but thats when you can be like "okay babe, well what did you want to do?" thats a last resort, if you think they might want to walk out. However, in my experience negotiating prices this way, i haven't lost any dances. I have had to be prepared for tight asses who still only want to cough up $20.
    When you break it down its not that much.
    Any club in Melbourne asks that you charge per guy who comes into the room and that the set time remains the same. So, each girl receives 250; 250/4 custies is 62.50. Thats actually very good value considering the length of time! Each guy is getting a 15min dance plus a lesbian/double for less than $65 per girl. At a rate of $4.20 per minute for an experience that's right there on their laps so close they can smell it!

    That breakdown explained to a customer virtually sells that dance.

    I also think that when I move from faking confident to just allowing my confidence to shine through is when I am at my best. Guys can see fake confidence which would be a barrier to these large sales; the confidence comes from the same place as knowing my value/boundries and knowing when to turn down a dance with a guy who seems demanding; knowing that MY money is coming from elsewhere.
    Tiny tweaks----->BIG CHANGES

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    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NightGoddess View Post
    I only dance topless for $40/ song, $20 is top on no touching. Combine 3 topless dances is only $100, I just made $100 in less than 10 min. I love upselling, only way to hustle IMO.
    I started using this exact method too! I've started making so much more money.

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