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    Quote Originally Posted by audritwo View Post
    Oh I was taking it as raising it up a little more. Because I used to think I wouldn't be able to get people to buy in more the $3. I like dem baby steps.


    Yeah, good luck with that. Yins might need a incentive to get people to buy in that much. For $99, maybe a huge video deal.
    Same here. I usually do $5 for 7 minutes, but last night I was able to do a $10 for 10 minutes show with my usual video incentives AND guaranteed squirting at goal (I usually only do that in Exclusive). Ended up making an extra $50 on the show than my average (so an extra $17.50 or so my cut). BUT the show + my countdown were about 5 minutes longer than my usual average.

    I'll definitely keep playing around with different pricing and types of shows since it seems like there are plenty of guys who are willing to pay more than $5 for a show. I was pleasantly surprised by how many people popped in during the show as well!


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    Im not about to try 90$ buy ins but I did raise my rates to 7$ for 7 mins (normally its 5$) and I started on the first try and exceeded my goal. Now I only did two gold show attempts that day and normally if I dont get it on the first attempt I dont try again but I really like the idea of raising the gold show rates. I think Gold shows have been around long enough now that most guys realize that its still worth it to pay a few bucks more if you ask for it so we might as well ask.

    The guys that come around and bug us for 0$ and 1$ buy ins are just part of the package now. If you want to see the view from the top of the mountain you need to be able to put up with the biting insects

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    I'm normally 7.99 (I think?)/9.99. I do usually a 20-25$ buy in for 10 min shows and I think a 150 buy in with a 3 min waiting period (these vary a little bit). I make the goal about 95% of the time, and double or more than double it about 75%of the time. The trick is that I make it seem like a very rare thing - which, technically is true Bc I don't start them unless they meet a certain condition, which I'm not giving away here That being said, GS are some of the most lucrative times I've had on sm, but the point is not to be known as someone who only does gs. Once you do, no one ever goes private anymore - I certainly get to the point and cum more, etc in GS solely Bc I'm getting off on the fact that I made in 13 mins what I do on my better hourly averages. Spread them out, make them a treat, and you'll be able to command much better prices for them. Maybe no more than 5 times a day, back to back I'd you piggyback the momentum and don't let them know that you're planning on another (if you're a 20+ hour/week gal). Let THEM and their interest in GS be the catalyst, not just handing it to them like it's some casual thing that you throw around.

    And most importantly, DON'T START THAT COUNTDOWN OVER. Once I started making clear to them that I DO NOT like wasting my time with countdowns ("I'm so horny, I'm here to cum, guys, not be teased!") they started getting on it everytime, and those who came out of a GS usually come back, announce to the room that it was frikin incredible, and that usually gets the condition going for another countdown (or I'll take an immediate poll of who's in for another one, upfront about price, if I hear too many complaints about having just missed it).

    It's possible that you can get away with relying on them much more heavily, but you'd have less stamina or much worse quality, which either means you'd be done after 2 hours tops or you'd be known for mediocre gs and therefore not worth that high a price. I suppose you could do two hour shifts, but then again, I personally try and keep the general camming model community in mind and I don't want to flood the market with GS. The one other thing is that being a solely GS model means you have less time to demonstrate your personality, your personal touch which makes them want to see YOUR GS instead of easily moving on to someone else's. All of this to mean that I prefer to present myself as in high demand (solely because this has been a direct correlation to how much I can charge while people still defend my prices to naysayers and how much my hourly is), and I think having too high a percentage if your online time be on GS CAN be detrimental to how much you can make.

    **i see models I have massive respect and admiration for do mostly GS all the time with lower prices. Personally I think it MUST be because they've learned those elusive pussy optical illusions Bc I can't handle the onslaught of pussy pound town that gs take for me. But if you make it work, good for you! I still like to take some of their suggestions and tinker with my game so I thought I'd add In my two cents.

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    Oh and the rare and elusive GS whale does exist - I do the most basic and least work intensive incentive for HT and I usually get a bit if a bidding war going on (mode being about 45 or 50 with a 25 buy in). Last week three times in a row it exceeded 75 because of a bidding war (so almost double it for two people fighting). And one of them exceeded 110. Then tipped another 100 in the show. Then signed into two separate accounts so he could watch me relax for an hour in exclusive and reached his daily limit of 300, 350 on each. Because of GS.

    To be abundantly clear, this is not bragging. I have no aggressive sales techniques to speak of. I accidentally stumbled upon what works for me, and therefore am hoping it can hopefully show more girls that, yup, raising your prices (went from 4.99/5.99 to 7.99/9.99 and $1/min buy in with $10/min for total goal for GS to $2/min buy in INCLUDING countdown time with $15/min for total goal) really really muddafukkin helps with the bottom line. And I don't ever get people barking orders at me anymore. In fact it's so quiet until its over that it's disconcerting. They're too busy jacking off trying to get their money's worth that they don't feel like they can afford the apm.

    Raise those rates, ladies. YOU - yes, you -are worth it.


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    Thank you Ivy!! Ive seen many girls doing $15 to $25 buy in for a 7 to 10 min show with huge success. It makes me say hmmmmmm did guys become cheap with GS or did the models make the guys cheap by offering 0 to $5 buy in shows? But thank you for sharing you Hustle! We can demand a higher buy in but most are too afraid to try because they think the guys will not pay! But Ivy and many others prove they will pay! Raise those rates ! Pussy is Power!

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    I think high buy-in for gold shows has potential. But in order for a girl to build a customer base for it, she would need to stand her ground on the buy-in price. She can't run a countdown with an $80 buy-in, and then an hour later, run a countdown for $15 buy-in, it could result in the guys not taking her seriously. Doing higher buy-in would require patience, but could be very profitable after building a customer base. She could use premium and exclusive as her means of income while in the building process. It would not hurt to try.

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    This is awesome!
    As of about 3 months ago I've been doing $6 for 6 mins and $10 for 8 mins and it's been great!
    Every now and then I give them a special show but as for the norm I've found that I def don't make less charging more for gold shows then when I did them super cheap..
    I have the same goals just a higher buy in and its working great!
    Glad to see others doing the same !

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Wow, did I read that right? You reached a two thousand dollar goal? Thats amazing!

    you made a 5k goal? wow thats crazy .. how long was the show?
    Biggest I've got was 1500 for a gold show and that was challenging lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatM View Post
    I swear this is a very touchy subject for me cause i often feel not understood for what i am talking about u know, as a veteran model that i worked before & after the change i really felt how GS's affected me & others, many cam girls gave up camming on SM because of it, i am still there but god, was that difficult! And still is cause GS's changed site culture, it made people pay less for our services, it made customers entitled, it made cammodels change hustle in order to continue to make money. The top models changed site culture cause they started to offer cheap(er) or free shows, lots of content for cheap or free & this affected/ affects the models who dont want to work that way simply.

    When i talk about these things people will jump on me cause i dont want 'to adapt' or that 'i live/ cam in the past' or think i am envious, NO, none of these are valid points, fact is people spend less on the average cam girl (not the top cam girls who have their fans & most traffic in their rooms), people are entitled to free performance & free content, people are more rude, people do troll more & so on.

    If before 'the change' i had guys coming pvt & paying my pvt fees to get pleased by the fetish shows i offer for example or just because they loved me, now they go to the most popular rooms to wank for cheap or free & dont come to me anymore to pay me. I saw my old regulars in some popular rooms i swear or they came to me right away as soon as i started a gold show countdown (i might try one time to time), i called them out on it; they did not stop visiting me cause i am boring or not good anymore but because they have the option to wank for cheap or free, a horny man would wank over his favorite model but also over somebody else that is not favorite but is cheaper, every woman has a pair of tits, an ass & a pussy there, for them is enough if they horny, even better if it's cheap/ free.

    Then if i wanna charge for flashes they come up with "ehh, u want 5 gold to show ass? i can join a GS with that money & see a full hardcore show for it or see it for free" or "lower ur fees, i wont pay u that when i can buy another show for cheap". These are just a few examples of how site culture changed in the last years.

    Top performers dont feel or care how their hustle & work ethic affects average people on cam, a site is not held by the top performers only but by all it's models, top performers think they do the site great money but fact is, they do the site & themselves great money while the site looses money from the average performer who is not making money anymore or not making good anymore or is giving up camming. If u do the math u guys will see that numbers dont lie, while a smaller number of models are doing great, a much larger percent of models struggle, just by reading the 'Camming sucks thread' u'll understand these are valid points.

    So again, i repeat myself, it's not about hating or envying on top earners, is the frustration some of us have because we know how it was before & how it is now, we all want to make money, we all need to live & provide for our families, make these guys pay again PLEASE, make them value our work, make us cam models a luxury service again & not a cheap product like many guys consider we are now.

    I don't think what top perfomers do or what any perfomers do effects anyones earnings at all ever.. Either your gonna make money or not , nothing that anyone else is doing will effect that ...

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    ^^^ In this case reality/ truth are relative, for each of us it feels different/ unique, at this point it does not even matter who is right or wrong, it matters how things affect us at a personal level. Obviously there are others who share my experience & been affected by the site culture changes as they mentioned in their posts. So there must be truth in what we say, feel, experience & in our pay checks.

    ETA: plus is not even about money only, money are not everything to me, to me it matters how i make that money, if i make them in a hostile environment or by doing something i am not happy doing then i cant enjoy life having that money.
    I choose to make the money in a way that is comfortable to me & even i make less i know i am happy for what i make.
    Numbers dont always matter, not to everyone, what matters to me is making money in a way where i feel valuable as a woman, as a cam model, if i am treated like a piece of meat on a shelf then i dont want these guy's money.
    That's what i am talking about when i say *Site culture changed*, i talk about work environment & how men value us on cam.
    Only models who were on site before 2011 & been thru the transition to GS's era can relate, talking about this with somebody who dont have the transition experience is irrelevant, u cant just know something u never lived.
    This is logic & a fact, all i want here is to make people aware of things they dont know about, i give the information, what u guys do with it is up to u
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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyCouture View Post
    This is awesome!
    As of about 3 months ago I've been doing $6 for 6 mins and $10 for 8 mins and it's been great!
    Every now and then I give them a special show but as for the norm I've found that I def don't make less charging more for gold shows then when I did them super cheap..
    I have the same goals just a higher buy in and its working great!
    Glad to see others doing the same !
    Your shows are very extreme Jenny! I don't see why you couldn't charge 50 gold buy in for 6mins! I mean Really!!! They cant get those type shows from just anyone!

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    [QUOTE=Redcandy;2784187]Your shows are very extreme Jenny! I don't see why you couldn't charge 50 gold buy in for 6mins! I mean Really!!! They cant get those type shows from just anyone![/QUOTE

    lol I doubt that to many cheapies lol

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    I usually do $5 for 8 but I want to raise mine too! I don't do that many gold shows, I'm mostly a private type of model. But good to see others charging more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcandy View Post
    You are not alone. I have a lot of Veteran cam girl friends that are still top models on Sm that don't do GS. We talk in secret and not on SW about how the site has changed for the worse since they started GS. Gs were profitable when they first started because models were doing them for $25buy in or more when they first started. I saw a model a few weeks back doing a $2 Gs and giving away 93 videos for $10!! I was like Wow! Look at what Sm has became! I stop doing them a year ago because guys were recording them and putting them all over porn sites. Since ive stop I rarely see a show of mines and if I find one its a old GS one that they keep putting back up on porn sites. Almost every show ive found on tube sites were a GS except maybe 2 were a pvt show from when I 1st started Sm. Has Sm changed Yes!! They lost alot of top models because of it.! Because the changed was for the worse. Sm is still very profitable for me and other Vets but we do recognize the changes.
    Is it possible it's the site releasing your GS to porn sites? I was under the impression that SM can use our GS to promote people back to the site. The only vid I've found of myself has a link that goes back to SM and it has my model name tagged all over it, which led me to thing it was released by the good peeps on SM. Of course now that same vid is on pretty much every porn site, some with and some without the link. Personally I don't mind, any publicity is good publicity, I just wish I had a heads up about it. Now that I'm looking for confirmation on SM I see nothing about it, so I'm not sure where I got that impression. Maybe something I read here on SW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaJane View Post
    Is it possible it's the site releasing your GS to porn sites? I was under the impression that SM can use our GS to promote people back to the site. The only vid I've found of myself has a link that goes back to SM and it has my model name tagged all over it, which led me to thing it was released by the good peeps on SM. Of course now that same vid is on pretty much every porn site, some with and some without the link. Personally I don't mind, any publicity is good publicity, I just wish I had a heads up about it. Now that I'm looking for confirmation on SM I see nothing about it, so I'm not sure where I got that impression. Maybe something I read here on SW?
    I definitely have had some whitelabels of SM that have used my GS and posted them on tube sites multiple times.

    I think this thread is great- different strokes for different folks and all that. I rarely do GS, because when I do them all my guys know it's either now or never. If they don't hit the goal- I do not restart and I don't do gold shows for at least a day. I generally do $8 for $8 or $10 for $10 but maybe I'll try upping it a little just to see what happens!

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    I never get asked for $0 or $1, in fact only time a custie suggested my gold show rate was who wanted me to set it at $100 for my 6 min show. NO extreme toys for me, I mainly just shake my tits and ass on cam. 3 guys bought in at that rate & he put in $200 & tipped me $100 during the show.

    On our end we make 35% of the take, does NOT matter if 100 guys bought in at $1 we make $35, 20 guys at $5 we made $35, 10 guys at $10 we made $35, one guy at $100 we made 35.
    At $1 you might get 100 guys to buy in, but what if you asked $25 & got more than just 4 guys to buy in? it is way easier to get 4 guys to buy a gold show than it is 100 of them.

    I consider it my job to train them to pay what I want, not for them to train me in what they want to pay. More you are convinced that are worth it, more they are convinced you are too. You can doo extreme, but it is NOT required to make great money at camming. Any girl doing extreme shows is NOT what is keeping you from banking. Your sales ability is, cause there are girls on other tip based sites with huge toys in all holes making very little money in free chat & some are banking. Girls who bank, they sales skills are BOSS!

    There are plenty of free pics & videos of me all over the web, yet I can get them to pay money whenever I cam. It is called hustling/ sales. So if your excuse for not making money is because another model does extreme shows & banks because of it, then you are WRONG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    I never get asked for $0 or $1, in fact only time a custie suggested my gold show rate was who wanted me to set it at $100 for my 6 min show. NO extreme toys for me, I mainly just shake my tits and ass on cam. 3 guys bought in at that rate & he put in $200 & tipped me $100 during the show.

    On our end we make 35% of the take, does NOT matter if 100 guys bought in at $1 we make $35, 20 guys at $5 we made $35, 10 guys at $10 we made $35, one guy at $100 we made 35.
    At $1 you might get 100 guys to buy in, but what if you asked $25 & got more than just 4 guys to buy in? it is way easier to get 4 guys to buy a gold show than it is 100 of them.

    I consider it my job to train them to pay what I want, not for them to train me in what they want to pay. More you are convinced that are worth it, more they are convinced you are too. You can doo extreme, but it is NOT required to make great money at camming. Any girl doing extreme shows is NOT what is keeping you from banking. Your sales ability is, cause there are girls on other tip based sites with huge toys in all holes making very little money in free chat & some are banking. Girls who bank, they sales skills are BOSS!

    There are plenty of free pics & videos of me all over the web, yet I can get them to pay money whenever I cam. It is called hustling/ sales. So if your excuse for not making money is because another model does extreme shows & banks because of it, then you are WRONG!

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    I totally agree Ive made just as much doing just a "regular" show as my crazy ones ..
    I just get so bored with it , thats why I do extreme its what I like and keeps me interested... as for the 0 and 1$ shows omg there annoying I do them as promo and I usually don't need 100 guys to make the goal cuz alot of guys tip more but It makes me feel bad for the ones tipping alot and resent the ones who aren't and I hate feeling like that !

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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyCouture View Post
    I totally agree Ive made just as much doing just a "regular" show as my crazy ones ..
    I just get so bored with it , thats why I do extreme its what I like and keeps me interested... as for the 0 and 1$ shows omg there annoying I do them as promo and I usually don't need 100 guys to make the goal cuz alot of guys tip more but It makes me feel bad for the ones tipping alot and resent the ones who aren't and I hate feeling like that !
    LOL I was just using the numbers as an example. Of course, if a person is doing a $0 or $1 or any price there are those who chip in more than that the entry amount. But from a selling point, it is easier to convince a smaller amount of people than 100 of them within a certain price point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyCouture View Post
    I totally agree Ive made just as much doing just a "regular" show as my crazy ones ..
    I just get so bored with it , thats why I do extreme its what I like and keeps me interested... as for the 0 and 1$ shows omg there annoying I do them as promo and I usually don't need 100 guys to make the goal cuz alot of guys tip more but It makes me feel bad for the ones tipping alot and resent the ones who aren't and I hate feeling like that !
    0 from 0 is 0! You may make your goal but how many guys saw you for free and will never pay for a show? When you walk into Saks 5th Ave they spray a sample of perfume on a paper to let you smell it not hand you the entire bottle and say its Free!. If I can get the milk for free there's no need for you to try and sell me the cow because I already know the milk is free so Who needs the Cow. Extreme shows at 0 to 1 Gold? Why ?

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    Ive never had 1 guy who saw a Video of me on tube sites do a show with me. But what I have had them do is come find me on SM to tell me they saw a video of me and it was so Hot or so Sexy and that they are a Fan! When asked if the want to do a show its either No or why I can watch you on xxx site for free. I also had them spread my content around on forums because they are such big Fans! Really that's a Fan! So for me free doesn't work ! That's why I don't understand 0 shows or Sm posting our entire Gs on tube sites! A promo video or show isn't showing them everything for Free. Its more of showing them a little bit. A tease. Make them want more! Make them pay my exclusive rate for more. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    LOL I was just using the numbers as an example. Of course, if a person is doing a $0 or $1 or any price there are those who chip in more than that the entry amount. But from a selling point, it is easier to convince a smaller amount of people than 100 of them within a certain price point.

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    ya no I totally agree lol

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    Because even at 0 someone will become addicted & pay for more, it works for her cause she banks. Go read Jenny's thread asking other girls how much money do they make & her telling us how much she makes. Obviously, by her bank account, what she is doing works for her. May not for you, which is the beauty of camming. There are many ways to hustle & make money.

    I've done thousand or more of videos, Lots of them on tube sites. It is my JOB to convert them into a sale on a cam site no matter what they have seen or can find for free. Been doing porn for 15 years. They log onto a cam site for one on one interaction, if they wanted to jack off to a free video then they would have done that instead. But they need more & I get it out of them. I convert those guys into a sale on a daily basis. $0 or $1 GS aren't my cup of tea either, but some girls make them work, so who am I to judge.

    SM has the best converting traffic of any cam site on the web, most of which comes from free sex tube sites.

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    IF Free works than why did sooooooooo many Porn girls with Membership sites who offer 1 or 2 live shows per week for free go Bust? If free works then why and how could porn stars averaging $10,000 per week in sales from there memberships and merchandise just dwindle down when guys started putting all there vids all over tube sites. There's no way you can tell me Sam that membership sites are still profitable like there were before tube sites started uploading porn stars videos for Free. In the long run No free does not work.

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    Because even at 0 someone will become addicted & pay for more, it works for her cause she banks. Go read Jenny's thread asking other girls how much money do they make & her telling us how much she makes. Obviously, by her bank account, what she is doing works for her. May not for you, which is the beauty of camming. There are many ways to hustle & make money.

    I've done thousand or more of videos, Lots of them on tube sites. It is my JOB to convert them into a sale on a cam site no matter what they have seen or can find for free. Been doing porn for 15 years. They log onto a cam site for one on one interaction, if they wanted to jack off to a free video then they would have done that instead. But they need more & I get it out of them. I convert those guys into a sale on a daily basis. $0 or $1 GS aren't my cup of tea either, but some girls make them work, so who am I to judge.

    SM has the best converting traffic of any cam site on the web, most of which comes from free sex tube sites.

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    ya it's true Ive made and can make just as much doing 'free" shows or 1$ shows .. I feel like some of my ht'ers get taken advantage of but I've also had tons of people come back later for pvts or come back and tip alot to say ty for the free show lol Ive aquired alot of business by "being nice" they say and doing free shows .. It works well for me ALOT of the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcandy View Post
    IF Free works than why did sooooooooo many Porn girls with Membership sites who offer 1 or 2 live shows per week for free go Bust? If free works then why and how could porn stars averaging $10,000 per week in sales from there memberships and merchandise just dwindle down when guys started putting all there vids all over tube sites. There's no way you can tell me Sam that membership sites are still profitable like there were before tube sites started uploading porn stars videos for Free. In the long run No free does not work.

    You are TWISTING my words. I am saying that I have & do convert those guys who have watched my stuff on tube sites for free into sales on cam. Did NOT say they haven't destroyed the industry in a major way. Just because you have yet to convert ONE of them into a sales, doesn't mean I haven't. Not all of them, but quite a few. As tube sites run out of new material of me to exploit, getting easier & easier to convert the guys from them into a sale too.

    Selling a gold show & camming is the discussion here, not membership sites and how the tube sites killed that part of the adult industry. Which has been discussed to death. You can keep beating that same dead horse, but won't do you any good.

    Yes, those tube sites have devalued content membership sites solo & major companies. YET, cam sites are Booming & many girls making money on them. despite those free tube sites. Now, the only way those tube sites make money is to send cam sites. I am for one, making money off of that tubesite traffic.Finally, instead of them ripping me off, I get some benefit out of it.

    Girls who do free or $1 gold show do NOT in any way affect my sales on streamate. Nor do the free shows in public chat on tip based cam shows affect my money either. Those girls are bringing in traffic, it is my JOB to convert it into sales.

    When you log onto any cam site, none of them guarantee you any money. It is your JOB to convert the customers on there into a sale. Some are better at it than others, there are many more better than me at it.

    How much does it cost to start up a solo pay site? How much time & money do you have to invest before you see any profit? How many scenes do you have to have on it before it makes money? How much porn did you have to shoot for other companies did you have to do in order to be popular enough to open up a solo pay site? Computer, cameras, outfits, hosting, webmaster who gets a cut, paying other talent, doing trade, locations. What is the average cost out of pocket for a scene? $100 to $1000 per scene. How many do you need to start a site? 20 plus future updates

    Now, how much does it cost to start camming? How long before you turn a profit? Computer, lights, webcam, internet cost what $1000 to $2000 And you don't have to be a famous porn star to make money or become a top earner but it does help.

    No solo sites are NOT as profitable as they used to be, but CAMMING is with way less money & time invested to get turn a profit. Also there is no webmaster to rip me off like many of us experienced as solo site girls.

    Many people in the porn industry treated me like shit, most are down right creepy, liars, con artist. Only exception is "The Score Group" and my fellow performers. Not crying over them going out of biz or not turning a profit. They never gave a fuck about me & I don't give a fuck about them. While my experience with streamate has been respectful, mindful, treat me as a biz partner, ask for my input & actually use it. Sent a rep to cam con once they found out I would be going to thank me for all that I do on this site.

    I live & deal with how the industry operates today, not 10 years ago, not 5 years ago. All industries adapt & change, just look at how Uber & Lyft are changing the taxi industry around the world. There are performers on SM making $2000, $5000 some even $10,000 a week. The top 20 girls on MFC pull in $20,000 to $75,000 a month. Lots of them didn't have to spend years sucking dick to get there. Only regret I have, is just not becoming a cam girl earlier & skipping porn altogether.

    I don't do free either, just that some girls do make it work. The ones who do, have a highly evolved hustle that I have not reached yet. I've watched them on MFC in awe. Free galls me, just as much as it does you.

    Sam

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