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    Im a single mom, on section 8 & welfare, and a student. I've already been trying to be a sugar baby but I feel more comfortable not having to meet up with guys or taking my clothes off in person.
    Camming seems like a great option, but is there any way I can do camming???

    I was told receiving amazon ecards could mess up my situation in the future through paperwork. And that when you're on section 8 you can't work from home??
    Does anyone know the rules? Is there a way I can do any of this??

    Thank you...

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    Default Re: HELP with taxes/sec8/welfare/new to this - young single mom wanting to try cammin

    I believe you will have to get off welfare and out of section 8 housing. Then set up and hustle hard. The potential is there is make a shit ton of money so its totally worth it.

    If you cannot work from home when your on section 8 then dont even try it! If you cant give it up until you start making the money then I would suggest finding a studio (a physical one not an online studio) where you can go and work your little booty off. OR if you have a friend or family member who would allow you to use their house or flat to cam out of until you can get your own place. I am not sure about welfare but once you start camming you must let them know and they will cancel it for you. If your in America (which Im assuming you are) all this money is tracked so you cannot hide it from welfare or section 8 you need to be up front about it or your going to be in a lot of trouble. The upside is they amount of money you can make camming!

    Good luck and if your still discouraged then go read the book Ho Tactics, how to mind fuck a man into spoiling, spending and sponsoring you by G.L. Lambert. It will teach you how to be a sugar baby and never take your clothes off!!

    In fact either way go read that book!

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    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...60#post2577160 Amazon cards can mess up your receiving assistance because you are SUPPOSED to claim it as income on your taxes. However, a few hundred a year will not really be noticed if it isn't reported.

    I don't have experience with Section 8, but ANY landlord can say that you can't work for home. Magical Hookah may be able to pop in here and let us have the lowdown on this. But I would agree that if they say don't do it, then don't do it. Ya a job is important, but so is a roof over your head. I'm going to 2nd all that DeepThoughts said/

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    I know plenty of ppl on section 8 that work I also know a lot who don't because they have too many kids.you need to contact your worker and ask her about getting a job and what that could do..most likely it will lower the section it not cancel it depending on how much you make. You can also join bm studio because your work will come up under something else instead of camming. The welfare gov wants us to work...the problem is they make ppl so dependent on the system there scared to take a chance to get a job in fear of losing benefits that are so convienant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLovely View Post
    I know plenty of ppl on section 8 that work I also know a lot who don't because they have too many kids.you need to contact your worker and ask her about getting a job and what that could do..most likely it will lower the section it not cancel it depending on how much you make. You can also join bm studio because your work will come up under something else instead of camming. The welfare gov wants us to work...the problem is they make ppl so dependent on the system there scared to take a chance to get a job in fear of losing benefits that are so convienant.
    The link I put above was actually a thread discussing working while receiving benefits and has links to other threads with a similar discussion. (Hadn't had coffee yet) You CAN work and get assistance. It is a complicated dance to make sure you aren't working too much to loose your benefits before you are fully prepared to take the leap and go without assistance though.

    The first step for the OP is to even find a place she can work out of. After she starts making money, the first thing she would loose is the section 8. So having a plan for where she would go or to find out if she would be able to stay in the same place but just pay rent, would be the next priority. From that point, food stamps, medical, school, and daycare will all have different monetary cutoffs. They are different in every state so I wouldn't be able to tell you what they are.

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    yes if she's is special housing she might not be able to stay, if it's just a regular house they usually let you stay as long as you have the rent.also if it's not special housing she could just cam from there since I'm sure most of us don't tell our landlords were camgirls lol.
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    I realize that I am probably going to be DRAGGED for this one...but here goes...why not just sneak and hustle hard as shit, dont tell anyone what you are doing and for a few months...hustle hustle hustle and see if it is profitable enough to move out of the section 8 housing? I mean, technically girls who are on it are not supposed to have men that work living in their houses, yet some do and dont report the income, hell some even trap out of their section 8 housing. But you CAN work and continue to receive section 8. You just cant earn massive amounts, like I think you can get section 8 even if you make too much for food stamps. And no, I have never been on section 8, never was lucky enough to get thru the phone wait...but if you are not really determined I would not do it...because section 8 is forever right? Like once you get approved...as long as you dont do something to lose it...free/almost free housing forever right? But girl if you are trying to get out of there...my advise is hustle hustle hustle (like three months) and dip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLovely View Post
    yes if she's is special housing she might not be able to stay, if it's just a regular house they usually let you stay as long as you have the rent.also if it's not special housing she could just cam from there since I'm sure most of us don't tell our landlords were camgirls lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetgapeach View Post
    I realize that I am probably going to be DRAGGED for this one...but here goes...why not just sneak and hustle hard as shit, dont tell anyone what you are doing and for a few months...hustle hustle hustle and see if it is profitable enough to move out of the section 8 housing? I mean, technically girls who are on it are not supposed to have men that work living in their houses, yet some do and dont report the income, hell some even trap out of their section 8 housing. But you CAN work and continue to receive section 8. You just cant earn massive amounts, like I think you can get section 8 even if you make too much for food stamps. And no, I have never been on section 8, never was lucky enough to get thru the phone wait...but if you are not really determined I would not do it...because section 8 is forever right? Like once you get approved...as long as you dont do something to lose it...free/almost free housing forever right? But girl if you are trying to get out of there...my advise is hustle hustle hustle (like three months) and dip.
    I agree with this to a point. Her social worker could let her know what all the monetary cutoffs are and once she starts working she would report earnings monthly to the social worker. One would know fairly quickly if camming income would replace any of the services. Like I said, it is a complicated dance. When I received benefits I knew how many hours, down to the minute, that I could work before my benefits for each would be cutoff.

    However, if she is in public housing and they say not to work from home, I wouldn't advise doing it. The people that are breaking the rules by having undocumented people, felons, etc, live with them are playing a risky game. It is all a game of 'Will I get caught?' People that break rules in public housing don't get a second chance as most housing authorities have zero tolerance policies. If someone is having a bad day and decides to kick her out, she will not be able to qualify for the program again even if she is broke with 0 money.

    You are right about hustle though. She could end up being one of the ladies that the customers are drawn to and be highly successful from day 1. The beauty of the job is being able to make $ with determination.

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    ^^Yes. She should know more of her own case specifics. I would not advise doing it either, unless the neighborhood is just awful and she cant have her voucher moved to a better location. I think, if I was receiving stamps, medical, and housing that I would have to be making a DARN good amount of money to risk messing it up. She could always just go get a min wage part time job for extras, or even clean houses, rentals, something for under the table money.

    I guess it is just depends on what it is worth to her...but ya...try to get more case specifics for your area. Best of luck op.

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    Another consideration OP needs to consider is even if lets say she does make good/decent money off camming....doesn't mean she'll like it or it will be right for her( family/childcare/work ethic/significant others).with camming having such a high dropout rate . She needs to decide if it's worth it to risk her section 8 . I know section takes like 5-8 years to get into and I don't know how long it is to get back on it after leaving.
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    ^^Exactly. Section 8 would be waaayyyy too much of a security blanket to risk losing. Kind of glad I never have had it, I do not think I would be a very productive citizen if I did. Because these summer months are BRUTAL and I would LOVE to know that I didnt have to worry about rent.

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    ^^Having section 8 is a great security blanket but it can also hinder you because you can never grow from where you are.your scared to advance you career/ some are scared to get married or have bf because it could make them lose there benefits n to be honest who'd wanna risk there benefits over a bf that you don't even know if it's gonna work out with.the tenants behind my house were section 8 and she disappeared one day . later we found out she secretly had her bf living with her and one day the worker called the house and he answered the phone so they dipped out to another state with family.. Left everything in the house family photos kids toys .. It was sad
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    I for one agree with you!.. I was on unemployment when I first started.. I didn't tell them!... and in fact I had applied for section 8 and was approved but by the that time I was making 1,000 a week so I didn't need it...

    Quote Originally Posted by sweetgapeach View Post
    I realize that I am probably going to be DRAGGED for this one...but here goes...why not just sneak and hustle hard as shit, dont tell anyone what you are doing and for a few months...hustle hustle hustle and see if it is profitable enough to move out of the section 8 housing? I mean, technically girls who are on it are not supposed to have men that work living in their houses, yet some do and dont report the income, hell some even trap out of their section 8 housing. But you CAN work and continue to receive section 8. You just cant earn massive amounts, like I think you can get section 8 even if you make too much for food stamps. And no, I have never been on section 8, never was lucky enough to get thru the phone wait...but if you are not really determined I would not do it...because section 8 is forever right? Like once you get approved...as long as you dont do something to lose it...free/almost free housing forever right? But girl if you are trying to get out of there...my advise is hustle hustle hustle (like three months) and dip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous camgirl View Post
    I for one agree with you!.. I was on unemployment when I first started.. I didn't tell them!... and in fact I had applied for section 8 and was approved but by the that time I was making 1,000 a week so I didn't need it...
    Did not reporting it to unemployment become a issue later? I'm on UE and medicade and haven't reported it yet but with the exception of one week I've made less camming then from unemployment so I don't want to lose it. I have to have medical though for my daughter.

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    But I go to school im not home a lot, I live in an apartment complex (housing, but just like there's a rule not to have anyone else living here & "14 days" max in a year for sleepovers) nobody listens to that ive had plenty of sleepovers or visits from friends & im quiet/respectful i dont bother my neighbors everybody thinks im rarely here even when i am here, they all know im a full time student and the office always says to my case worker I never give them any problems but ill be moving to my own house for rent soon. How would they know specifically that im camming? My friend said id only be making 30% off webcammodels.com & if i join a studio than thats basically all the profit. I used to sell on ebay before it got more difficult and competitive with china, and i didnt have to report it to taxes because it was under $5000... My landlord had no problem with the ebay, theyre aware i was selling on ebay previously but they never said i wasn't allowed to work from home, just that i would have to report it if im making a certain amount.

    Can i just try it out?

    I live in Los Angeles. Its expensive. But i live in a lower income area, looking to move to a safer neighborhood closer to my school/family.
    I hate being on welfare. Trust me, I want to get off of it. But at the moment it's not realistic, im a student, the programs help me with reimbursements, paying my mother for child care, special help, but until I can afford all that on my own im stuck on it. My income limit is $1,000/month. If make that much off of a legitimate job than my benefits begin to be lowered/cut. The scary part is finding the safe stable in between welfare-working on my own.

    And what about custody? can this affect me in any way, I know theres plenty of moms working on this.
    And couldn't I just say im working from a friend's house once I have to say that im working?

    By the way, the section 8 case worker told me I can make even up to $40,000/yr and still be eligible for my section 8 because its afforable housing

    I do a lot of freelance gigs/modeling/acting/bartending/serving but they're always just when im needed. It's nothing constant/stable.

    I have my fake name on amazon, wouldn't it not be traceable if i use a friend's address? Haven't had to put one yet though

    I'm just really scared because I don't have many options and sometimes receiving help feels more like a trap than a blessing.. I don't have a lot of free time so any job I apply to has to be over $11/hour or it's not worth bothering with my schedule and programs, thats why i've been trying to go through under the table gigs and sugar even tho i'd rather not do that..some guys have been pretty creepy & i'd prefer not to sleep with them but they either expect that eventually or want a real relationship...
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    You need to speak to your worker and ask her the income limit , I don't think it's a problem to cam from your place.

    Also camming isn't illegal..but it doesn't mean that the father can't fight you in court for it.

    Please remember you can/will get recorded and most likely your friends n family could too find out

    Also medical will be gone so be prepared for that , unless your child has medical through its dad

    I wouldn't say your camming it your doing some other at home job

    Also your school programs will be gone if your on fin aid

    So before losing section 8 consider all of these
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    In IL you have to be earning a certain amount for like 2 or 3 months before you will be completely taken off a program. So, for example, you get a summer job or work during the holidays. You let the social worker know how much you are making while you work, they adjust the amount of food stamps or raise the amount you need to pay toward rent. When your seasonal job is over you let them know. Rates are readjusted and you are still getting benefits. So if you start camming and realize you hate it, it shouldn't affect you too much.

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    You can make a decent amount camming. Just check out the various earners threads. Once you are making enough to escape needing public assistance the only thing that will hold you back is your own fears. It's the type of decision you need to make and stick with it. Do your research, educate yourself on what you need to do to be successful, and go for it!

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    No and that was back in 2001.... also I have had food stamps when I was not making much camming due to health and personal issues and I just let them run out and not reapply..

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPookie View Post
    Did not reporting it to unemployment become a issue later? I'm on UE and medicade and haven't reported it yet but with the exception of one week I've made less camming then from unemployment so I don't want to lose it. I have to have medical though for my daughter.

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    I dunno where you live but I live in florida and we have Florida Kidcare.. and it is a sliding scale very inexpensive... wish they had it for adults.. but I got that wonderful obamacare I am paying out the ass for in out of pocket costs.. Not in premiums... picked the cheapest silver plan they had to try it out..

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    Did not reporting it to unemployment become a issue later? I'm on UE and medicade and haven't reported it yet but with the exception of one week I've made less camming then from unemployment so I don't want to lose it. I have to have medical though for my daughter.

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    First of all, please read the threads that Aurora14 kindly linked. (THANKS, chica! I wrote so much stuff in that one thread, but I wasn't looking forward to searching for it!)

    Secondly, regarding what you can and can't do in your Section 8 housing... I have no idea how stringent the rules are, so check with your Section 8/HUD office. BUT be aware that 99% of us aren't technically legal to cam from our homes. I own my home, but it's not in an area that's zoned for business, much less adult business, so in the most technical sense, I shouldn't be camming from home either. The difference between you and me is that the city I live in, the police, my neighbors, and my bank receive benefit from me owning my home, and there's minimal damage caused by me camming behind closed doors, so it's not in anyone's interest to press the issue. In your case, lots of people benefit financially from kicking you off Section 8 (not to be harsh, but it's mathematically true), so you are more likely to get in trouble for breaking the rule than the rest of us.


    As far as how they would find out that you're camming, there are three main ways that I can think of off the top:

    1) The IRS. This one is pretty much unavoidable because, unlike your other gigs, camming is never paid in cash, and is all traceable money. If you make more than $600 with any American based cam site, they will report your earnings to the IRS. If you make money with a foreign cam site, they will have to send you the money somehow, usually through a service like Payoneer, and according to recent laws, these services have to tell the IRS how much money they are importing on your behalf. So the IRS is going to know how much you made, even if you try to lie about it (which you shouldn't, because tax fraud is really bad for you!). Once the IRS knows that you're making the money, that information is likely going to filter down to other agencies. That might take some time, and they may or may not pay attention, but I wouldn't bet on it. If they get hard evidence that you've been lying about your income to keep your benefits, you could lose the ability to get any future benefits, have to pay back a lot of money, and/or get charged with a crime.

    As far as Amazon goes, you really can't do any serious business using only Amazon gift cards. For one thing, there are a lot of things you can't pay for with Amazon. Secondly, Amazon is aware that cam models sometimes take gift cards as payment, and they aren't happy about that. If you have an account that is getting a high volume of gifts, they have every right to shut it down. One popular model here had her Amazon account shut down purely because she is a known cam model. They basically told her that Amazon gift options are for use by real people with their IRL friends and family.

    2) The biggest way that people get caught by Social Services and similar agencies is that they try to hide their income, and they fuck up. You have no idea what info your workers have access to, and how closely they are going to look at it (and I can't give you that info, because it changes all the time). I have personally seen people get hit with 5-figure+ sums that they have to pay back because they tried to conceal a few hundred dollars per week.

    3) The second most common way that people seem to get caught is that their friends, family, or neighbors turn them in. People absolutely HATE it when they play the rules and stick to a really tight budget, only to realize that someone else is breaking the rules and getting away with it. When it comes to benefits, people turn each other in left and right. Even more worrisome, Social Services gets fraud calls all the time from people that are jealous of some other recipient, and are just making shit up. However, in the course of investigating the false claim, it's not unusual to find out that the accused person actually was committing fraud, just not the way that it was initially reported.


    So my point with this post is that if you decide to cam, you should report your income however the rules say you should (see the linked thread about Public Assistance). You have a lot to lose, you are at high risk of getting caught, and the punishment for screwing up can be pretty high.

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    Default Re: HELP with taxes/sec8/welfare/new to this - young single mom wanting to try cammin

    What I think you should do for the moment:

    Sign up for a site or two directly, preferably American-based sites, because we know that their reporting threshold starts at $600. Try out camming, but don't make more than $600 on any site. If you're making $20-30/hour, that gives you 20-30 hours per site to see how you like it, and if you are able to be profitable. This isn't completely foolproof, because you could be recorded and posted online your very first day, or someone you know could wander into your room at any time. But in financial terms, you are much, much less likely to leave a paper trail. Even if you do get caught, a few hundred bucks isn't going to hurt you as badly as serious camming income would.

    So, if you do that experiment, keep track of everything related to how much you made in how much time. Did you love camming? Did you hate it? Did you make decent money? Then break out your calculator and do some math. How many hours per week can you cam (be realistic)? How much were you making per hour? Try the calculations based on your very worst hours, because when you start out, you get an income boost just because you're new. Can you make enough to cover the benefits that you would be losing? Welfare doesn't pay a whole lot, so if you can't cover that one, camming probably isn't worth it to you. Same might be true of Food Stamps, depending on how much you get. Section 8 and Medicaid require more income before you lose the benefits, but they can be very expensive to cover on your own. Do the math and see how it works out. Don't forget that all the money you make isn't yours to spend - you need to set aside roughly 30% for paying taxes.
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    "dont worry, its slow for other models today"
    I'm not other models, its not slow.

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    Default Re: HELP with taxes/sec8/welfare/new to this - young single mom wanting to try cammin

    Quote Originally Posted by VampyrNymph View Post
    My friend said id only be making 30% off webcammodels.com & if i join a studio than thats basically all the profit.
    PLEASE READ THE STICKY ABOUT SIGNING UP FOR SITES DIRECTLY! Webcammodels is a really evil studio and NO ONE should sign up with them. Unless it's a physical studio or BoleynModels, a studio will take a big chunk of your money and provide ZERO benefits to you. They don't make your paper trail less noticeable. They don't reduce your expenses. They don't pay your taxes for you. They literally do NOTHING at all besides take a % of the money you earn.
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