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    Default Civilian Women Catch On to GFE #GiveYourMoneytoWomen

    Men like to act as if commanding women’s attention is their birthright, their natural due, and they are rarely contradicted. It’s a radical act to refuse them that attention. It’s even more radical to propose that if they want it so fucking much, they can buy it.

    Housework is not work. Sex work is not work. Emotional work is not work. Why? Because they don’t take effort? No, because women are supposed to provide them uncompensated, out of the goodness of our hearts.

    It’s also hard not to draw a connection between #GiveYourMoneyToWomen and sex work. Sex workers are selling something that’s legal to have, that belongs to them, and that people are willing to pay for – and yet the sale is subject to both moral and legal censure, unlike almost any other transaction of that kind. For all the rhetoric about protecting workers, a lot of opposition to sex work comes down to “this should not be sold, for reasons.” That moralizing, paternalistic viewpoint – “please ignore the fact that there’s a market for this, because we think it shouldn’t have monetary value” – has roots in common with Horwood’s call to “get a job.” It has roots in common with people who look down on domestic workers, or judge their employers for apparent failure to keep up their own homes.


    The originators and adherents of #GiveYourMoneyToWomen didn’t just suggest that women should get paid for existing, although yeah that too if you’re buying. Rather, women should get paid for all the work they typically do for free – all the affirmation, forbearance, consultation, pacifying, guidance, tutorial, and weathering abuse that we spend energy on every single day. Imagine a menu of emotional labor: Acknowledge your thirsty posturing, $50. Pretend to find you fascinating, $100. Soothe your ego so you don’t get angry, $150. Smile hollowly while you make a worse version of their joke, $200. Explain 101-level feminism to you like you’re five years old, $300. Listen to your rant about “bitches,” $infinity.
    It was beautiful to watch #GiveYourMoneyToWomen unfold. Men got angry, and then women explained to them that to have their anger acknowledged, they would have to pay. This made them angrier, of course, but without a donation, who was listening? Even now, when you Google the hashtag, nearly the whole first results page consists of furious MRAs. (I didn’t click through, though. Who exactly was going to make it worth my while?

    http://the-toast.net/2015/07/13/emot...abor/view-all/
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    Default Re: Civilian Women Catch On to GFE #GiveYourMoneytoWomen

    ...Something about this seems off.

    Am I missing something?
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    Default Re: Civilian Women Catch On to GFE #GiveYourMoneytoWomen

    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    ...Something about this seems off.

    Am I missing something?
    The writer actually made a connection between "caring" work and stripping, escorting, etc. saying that listening to men complain, laughing at their jokes, and trying hard to be emotionally supportive to the point of anticipating their needs is work and should be rewarded with money instead of a smug sense of entitlement.
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    Default Re: Civilian Women Catch On to GFE #GiveYourMoneytoWomen

    ie. time wasters on notice.

    stripping is an easy job etc
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    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    Default Re: Civilian Women Catch On to GFE #GiveYourMoneytoWomen

    ie. time wasters on notice.

    stripping is an easy job etc
    Tiny tweaks----->BIG CHANGES

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirakonstantin View Post
    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    Default Re: Civilian Women Catch On to GFE #GiveYourMoneytoWomen

    I live in the Midwest so I think there is always going to be the needy type of woman who doesn't mind being an emotional tampon for a man b/c it empowers her/validates her worth. I'm surrounded by basic bitches who plan on being married & making babies by age 25. I don't get it but whateverthefark...lol
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    Default Re: Civilian Women Catch On to GFE #GiveYourMoneytoWomen

    Nothing done well is easy. (Of course there are people who try to take the easy out of everything, and try to get money with minimal effort.)
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Default Re: Civilian Women Catch On to GFE #GiveYourMoneytoWomen

    I have been following this on twitter and find it fascinating. Here is one of the best articles and interviews about this hashtags with the creators. All of which are college educated who started out in the vanilla world. They are now sex workers who have found more freedom and empowerment doing it.

    " #GiveYourMoneyToWomen is the end game of capitalism
    Bardot: We use money as our way to exchange value, to secure resources. So since men are the primary controllers of money, women are conditioned to want access to men because that’s essentially an access point to security. Our cultural expectation of sexual monogamy in exchange for any provision of resources between a man and a woman often puts women in the position where they are dependent on one person. It is the same dynamic that casts all other behavior into whoredom.
    Women, like all living beings, seek resources for themselves. We’ve decided some ways are OK for them to do this, some are not. We punish anyone who steps outside those bounds.

    Bardot: my experience in business has been so violent that I left it to start my own consultancy after only a few short years. I cannot even imagine going back into that type of environment; there’s hardly upside. And I think women who are not willing to tolerate that get additional abuse. Essentially in speaking up about it, they want to determine if you’re worthy of having objections, whether you’re worthy of disturbing the male dominated-environment. They want to make it so there’s something wrong with you and the system’s completely fine. You have to just turn away, you have to just walk.

    MVC: What for each of you is the vision that Give your Money to Women offers? What’s the dream that it brings into reality?

    Bardot: In my mind, allowing women to see that they have power, and that they can wield it for themselves. There is nothing more rational than capitalizing on what the world asks of you.

    Yeoshin: For me the goal is a drastic cultural shift, to where what we’re doing is normalized, so that all of women’s contributions command direct access to resources and without question. This is how things always should’ve been.

    Lauren: Having a whole new theory of economics. Thinking about this on basic, anatomical, and also a global scale. Both micro and macro levels: Violence reduction, rebalancing the positionality of income, slowing down unrelenting capitalism, reparations for certain populations of women, and tangibly improving lives and safety."

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