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    I am wondering if I can escort and not do sex? I'm with someone so I don't want to do the sex part but going out and getting paid for sounds nice . I do camming and texting but I'm not making a lot from it. I also have a child so I can't travel

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    You can but you will have to be upfront with the customers and let them know before meeting them that it's strictly platonic and no sex will occur. Most men equate the term escort as someone who meets clients for money & sex.

    Imo you're probably better off going the sugar daddy route and telling them you expect to be compensated for your time but you're not having sex on first date. but after a couple dates, majority of them expect sex too.
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    Default Re: Can you escort and not do sex?

    what's are some good SD and escort sites?

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    Seeking arrangement is one. Also you can meet potential sugar daddies in real life at spots where men with money hang out. And if all else fails social media sites like Facebook and Twitter can be used to pull wealthy men for an arrangement.
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    You can definitely be a sugar baby without sex. Be sure to say you're looking for a platonic relationship. I'd recommend finding someone in real life. Most of the girls on the websites are offering sex so you'd have to compete with that kind of expectation. Places to find someone include: charity events, art exhibitions like Art Basel, high end auction houses, etc.
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    Not really. Theres not much of a market or demand for platonic escorts. Men who use escorts expect sex and they get it 99.9% of the time, so even if you dont offer sex, it'll be nearly impossible for you to make money. Honestly, it doesnt sound like escorting is for you at all. I agree with other posters that having a sugar daddy would be a better option. But your sugar daddy will eventually want sex too, just so you know. Have you considered stripping at all? Are there clubs near you? I think your best bet would be working at a topless bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiansmommy10 View Post
    I am wondering if I can escort and not do sex? I'm with someone so I don't want to do the sex part but going out and getting paid for sounds nice . I do camming and texting but I'm not making a lot from it. I also have a child so I can't travel
    Lol I think it's a given nowadays that sex is expected and the price guys would pay you for just dinner without those expectations will be very low. Backpage girls are like 60-100 in some areas so I don't see guys wasting their time just to talk to a girl.

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    If you don't have the ability to flirt & make money at camming or texting, then upping your game & get money out of men without sex won't work for you either.

    You need to work on your hustle. You do post after post looking for ways to make money on this site, but don't put the work into being a success at camming. Maybe this isn't the industry for you. Those who make the money at any job, do the research, study, put in the hours at work to get that money.

    Do you think men are going to pay you to go out to dinner, have long conversations over drinks? No, they pay to get laid. If they like you well enough after the sex, then dinner or drinks out in public might happen. Hmmm, I can pay a hot chic $500 for an hour of fun in bed or pay a girl to have dinner with? Men want sex, men pay for sex. Men rarely pay to hear you views on any topic, they don't care. They pay for sex, so they don't have to hear a female drone on & on about any subject. They just want their dick sucked.
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    You can put up ads, stating 'NO SEX' you can tell them repeatedly "no sex' and they will all either hang up or say "no deal".

    You keep on posting about your child, sorry, but makes no difference. Many cam girls, phone sex operators and hookers have kids. A kid is NOT a badge of honor or an excuse for not trying your best.

    Try reading "ho tactics".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Do you think men are going to pay you to go out to dinner, have long conversations over drinks? No, they pay to get laid. If they like you well enough after the sex, then dinner or drinks out in public might happen. Hmmm, I can pay a hot chic $500 for an hour of fun in bed or pay a girl to have dinner with? Men want sex, men pay for sex. Men rarely pay to hear you views on any topic, they don't care. They pay for sex, so they don't have to hear a female drone on & on about any subject. They just want their dick sucked.
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    You can put up ads, stating 'NO SEX' you can tell them repeatedly "no sex' and they will all either hang up or say "no deal".
    Many guys (like myself) go to strip clubs not looking for extras. We drop thousands to hang out and get dances in a VIP. There are many stories of women on this website that are doing great without having sex with anyone. There are also many guys that drop 5-6 figures or more on sugar babies. Some of them end up having sex, and others don't. I've dropped $500-$1000 for a dinner with someone. Getting laid for free is easy, but that comes with a ton of drama. Sometimes you want something drama free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoRegrets View Post
    Many guys (like myself) go to strip clubs not looking for extras. We drop thousands to hang out and get dances in a VIP. There are many stories of women on this website that are doing great without having sex with anyone. There are also many guys that drop 5-6 figures or more on sugar babies. Some of them end up having sex, and others don't. I've dropped $500-$1000 for a dinner with someone. Getting laid for free is easy, but that comes with a ton of drama. Sometimes you want something drama free.
    Just curious though - you mention dropping $500-$1000 for dinner but how long did you see this same girl before the thought of sex was put out on the table? Did you continue to see her and give her money? Did you eventually have sex with her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Just curious though - you mention dropping $500-$1000 for dinner but how long did you see this same girl before the thought of sex was put out on the table? Did you continue to see her and give her money? Did you eventually have sex with her?
    Girls from that website:

    - 3 girls first dates only (2 at $500, 1 at $1000) no chemistry, no sex
    - A girl for around 2 months, $1000 per dinner/date $7000 total + gifts. No sex but drunken makeouts. Ended when her roommate/girlfriend created drama with jealousy
    - Longer term (about 6 months). $6000 per month plus travel and gifts. Ended when her drug problem became too much

    Girls met in real life:

    - My girl friday. She gets $2000-$3000 each time we meet. We've been seeing each other a few years now. No sex but we wake up in bed together all the time. Lots of partying, sporting events, sky diving, general craziness. Still ongoing
    - Long term sugar baby. Lasted around a year and a half. Hard to tell how much but around $400,000 over that time. Ended due to family issues on her part.

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    NoRegrets, so you are the mythical unicorn that spends tens of thousands with no expectation of ever having sex. If you keep going with stories like this and the one where UHNW guys are shoveling money at nannies and hostesses and even marrying them, I might just start believing in Santa Claus again.

    Seriously though, I think the ladies are trying to give the OP real world advice gained from ample time "in the trenches." You might indeed be what you claim, but if so then you may be a rather rare one-off. A girl cannot plan her career around finding and retaining enough one-offs any more than she can plan her finances around the chance that she might have the winning lottery ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    NoRegrets, so you are the mythical unicorn that spends tens of thousands with no expectation of ever having sex. If you keep going with stories like this and the one where UHNW guys are shoveling money at nannies and hostesses and even marrying them, I might just start believing in Santa Claus again.

    Seriously though, I think the ladies are trying to give the OP real world advice gained from ample time "in the trenches." You might indeed be what you claim, but if so then you may be a rather rare one-off. A girl cannot plan her career around finding and retaining enough one-offs any more than she can plan her finances around the chance that she might have the winning lottery ticket.
    Word!

    I was just thinking no regrets must be in the minority of dudes that have long term arrangements without expecting sex.

    I've only dabbled in the sugar world (and currently in a small-ish city so it's not as easy to meet wealthy men for arrangement as the big city) but from what I've observed majority let's say 90% expect sex after 2nd or third date but by that time the escort / sugar baby has another daddy lined up. Similar rickdugan to your 'one off' theory hence the reason some of these escorts / sugar babies are able to make money without having sex. I think it's feasible to have a pool of generous sugar daddies available but only in larger cities where more people have high incomes.
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    Rick, miss.a.p1600 asked me a question and I answered it. If the OP wants to believe it or not is up to her. Given your situation it would seem in your best interest to keep prices low. The OP should keep that in mind as well.

    Edit: miss.a.p1600, I tried to give you a detailed answer. If you wanted to hear something else, why ask in the first place? You may be misreading my post. I've indicated which ones were platonic. Not all were.
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    NR, I sincerely doubt that anything I say here is going to impact the marketplace for paid services. My doubts about your claim that lots of guys are dropping "5-6 figures or more" on girls who they aren't having sex with are genuine.

    Maybe it's more common than I know, but it seems that some of the more experienced ladies here had doubts as well and were trying to share informed advice based upon insights that are probably far better than ours. IMHO this is an example of a thread that us dudes should probably steer clear of. Frankly, threads like this make me wonder why there isn't an appropriate Entertainer Only section for escorts and SBs on this site.

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    There is. It's called other work section.

    NoRegrets don't get all worked up, I must have misread. Hey it happens sometimes. I saw the words no sex in your post a couple times, and you didn't specify the other times. So The ones where you don't say no sex means there was sex involved?

    Sorry I'm not trying to get all in your business just trying to clarify for the op that no sex is possible with the short term arrangements.
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    You could be right that this discussion is better for-women-only. They can move the thread if that makes sense. You are misquoting me about 5-6 figures but not sex. I said 5-6 figures, sometimes sex and other not.

    Rick, you know that non-extra clubs exist. And they have actual customers in them. They are not completely empty. You may not be interested in these clubs but they are real. And the men that go in there spend money on women and do not have sex with them. And some of these men become regulars for a period of time and end up spending quite a bit of money on the same girl. And some of these men may have large amounts of disposable net worth to give to these women. So if you agree that this is happening everyday, how is it that a man cannot do the same thing with a sugar baby?

    miss.a.p1600: we are not allowed to post here? If so I'll stop.

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    Well damn nevermind. I didn't realize we are in other work section and its open to all genders
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Sorry I'm not trying to get all in your business just trying to clarify for the op that no sex is possible with the short term arrangements.
    Yes, you read that right

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    I just have to echo Sam and say that OP has made several posts trying to 'get rich quick'. She's not willing to do the actual 'sex' part of sex work apparently (yes, camming counts, but it's still very different from being physically there with the customer), or put in the research to do better at her current endeavors, but wants all the benefits of the $$. There is a good reason we make the hundreds of dollars a night that we do, and it's BECAUSE this is a stigmatized profession AND most of us put in a lot of effort and learned how to do it effectively enough to pay the bills.

    Yes there are unicorns like No Regrets that will pay for OTC companionship without sex, and there are strippers who have regulars that will pay them to hang out and talk in the club, but for the most part guys want something in return for their money... they come into a club expecting lap dances, and they call escorts expecting sex... so if you tell them you don't offer whatever service that 99% of your "co-workers" do, you are in a bad position. Trying to make a steady living off just hanging out/no sex is a bad gamble.
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    OP I am in agreement w/ Sam38g on this, all the way.

    You've started multiple threads looking for help w/ camming, looking for help to start stripping, & received spot-on advice. How much of it have you truly acted on?

    Truth is, unless you've got another source of income, you really can't afford to half-ass it in this industry. Considering all the stress & bs that we encounter in this industry, it's not really worth it to half-ass it -- if you're gonna do it, do it right & get everything out of it that you can, whether it's $$$, networking for your vanilla interests, or whatever else.

    Escorting w/o sex -- Are you serious? No, really. How long do you intend to wait around hoping to land a paid-platonic relationship, & how do you plan to support yourself & your kid in the meantime? There may well be unicorns out there who would be down for such an arrangement, but as the saying goes, I wouldn't quit my day job while trying to charm open wallets & expecting to get anywhere w/ my legs shut. That's simply not how the escort market works.

    Don't want to do p4p? That's fine. Strip, cam, sell your knickers, try domme or other fetish work. There are multiple baskets to put your eggs in here, nothing says you have to stick to JUST stripping, or JUST camming, or whatever. It takes time & effort to get solidly off the ground in this industry, just like any other. There's no 'get rich quick' magic formula. Perfecting your hustle, building a regular client base, etc ... nothing happens overnight.

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    Actually, Damiansmommy10, I agree with Sam and everyone else.
    I am sorry but I find it a little bit strange that you think this industry is a quick rich scheme. First of all, you are making threads about everything from phone sex to Second Life to non-sexual escorting. You do realized that you must be sexual in Sex work, right? In addition, you never follow anyone's advice here yet keep on making tons of threads. Every form of sex work involves a great hustle and building clientele. By the way, Second Life is not a quick rich scheme It is one of the hardest hustles to do for most newbies. By the way, you can be a sugar baby but do you have your hustle down? I mean it took me a whole year of research before going out and finding a proper one Personally, I do not think sex work is for you and it is okay. Seriously, I believe that you are better off being a psychic or tech support person.

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    There is a link at the bottom of the main forum page for cuddle only escorts. They stay fully clothed and get $40 per hour cash.

    Promotional models get paid to go to events and mingle/handout brochures/samples for around $30ish per hour.

    Celebrities/bloggers/people with a huge following get appearance fees for events.

    Outbound call centers pay higher than average wages and commissions - non sexual work.

    There was some girl I saw in a magazine offering naked therapy sessions for guys on cam. She got naked and let them talk and wank at the same time.

    Just some ideas.

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    I had been an escort, but I've only had sex with customers (one was an SD) about three times in five years. It's possible, but it takes a lot to market oneself as a no sex provider. Nonetheless, I've been able make a few thousands from a few appointments a day without any sex. It took me a while and tons of referrals; it was NOT easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post

    Don't want to do p4p? That's fine. Strip, cam, sell your knickers, try domme or other fetish work. There are multiple baskets to put your eggs in here, nothing says you have to stick to JUST stripping, or JUST camming, or whatever. It takes time & effort to get solidly off the ground in this industry, just like any other. There's no 'get rich quick' magic formula. Perfecting your hustle, building a regular client base, etc ... nothing happens overnight.
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    I've posted so many "real world " posts about non-sexual escorting that I've gotten bored with it. The short answer is that is rare. So rare and so hard to find as to constitute an unrealistic fantasy. Escorting = having sex with the customer. Every time ? No. Sometimes the guys can't .Who wants to specialize in and advertise for impotent clients ?

    I've posted before about high class "companions". They constitute less than 1 % of sex workers. Many are more like occasional mistresses than escorts. Nice work if you can get it but almost all of them are multi-lingual college graduates with lots of real world experience. And most do have sex with at least some of their clients.

    The "sugar baby " thing seems like a much more realistic option.

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