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    I have been reading a lot of posts on here trying to better understand strippers in general as much as someone can group people together and generalize. I respect people with open minds when it comes to sexuality and I normally get along well with strippers. I lived with two of them when I was in university and I thought I sort of knew in general common themes among strippers.

    I never imagined the depth and breadth of misandry I would encounter until I found this site. Is it because it is the Internet? Do strippers really hate men this much? I read so many posts filled with anger and hatred - all directed directly at men as sexual creatures.

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    Oh for Petes sake. Are you a tuscl troll?

    We do not all 'hate men'. A lot of us are in committed long term relationships.
    I think the only universal theme you could pull from this site is more of a 'fuck the patriarchy' view. It's not MEN specifically but the system and the men who still adhere to it, that tries to treat women like they are lesser. We encounter it in a lot more forward ways than 'civilian' women.

    Sometimes you get posters here who are just burnt out of the BS that goes along with the industry. We get tired of smacking hands away, dudes feeling entitled to shove their fingers down our bottoms for $20, the rude questions and shit like "Your boyfriend LETS you do this?"

    Would you say a nurse hated her patients because she came to a forum to vent? Some girls don't have/want to talk to people in real life, so they come here.
    This is a dancer support site. We don't appreciate people reading our posts, trying to 'understand' us, doing sociology class projects on us, etc.
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    What you see here is a bunch of female sex workers venting. That is all. We don't hate men but since we are in the sex industry- a kinda taboo industry to work in (not so much anymore) and because of that, we are subjected to a lot of foul things. We are also subjected to people like you, who think we are science projects or some shit instead of human beings.... people are constantly doing studies on us and coming up with these outrageous assumptions but the funny thing is, we are normal as fuck and a hell of a lot more sane than people who work what you may call "normal" jobs.

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    Um, I do not think strippers are "science projects, or "some shit". That is some straight up crazy rambling shit right there.

    and I don't know what a tusci is or what it has to do with being friends with strippers and giving a shit what they think? And on that thought, I can read whatever the hell I want to on the old w-opentothewholedamnworld-w-don'tpostcraphereifyoudon'twantitread-w.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanpaul View Post
    I have been reading a lot of posts on here trying to better understand strippers in general as much as someone can group people together and generalize. I respect people with open minds when it comes to sexuality and I normally get along well with strippers. I lived with two of them when I was in university and I thought I sort of knew in general common themes among strippers.

    I never imagined the depth and breadth of misandry I would encounter until I found this site. Is it because it is the Internet? Do strippers really hate men this much? I read so many posts filled with anger and hatred - all directed directly at men as sexual creatures.
    This is their support site dude. There is a difference between complaining about guys who do stupid things and hating all men.

    Does a teacher hate all children because she complains about the few who make her life difficult in the classroom? Do airline employees hate all passengers because they vent about the rude and angry ones? Do nurses hate all hospital patients because of a difficult subset?

    Most of the dancers I know in the clubs have SOs, which further belies the notion that strippers are universal man-haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanpaul View Post
    and I don't know what a tusci is
    There alot of $100 words in this thread....

    misandry ?
    tuscl ?
    SO ?

    gonna have to do a bunch of googling.

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    ok it seems misandry is hate of men - but shouldnt it be mrandry then....lol.
    tuscl = strip club review site
    SO = still dont know
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoX View Post
    we are normal as fuck and a hell of a lot more sane than people who work what you may call "normal" jobs.
    Oh cmon - even other strippers would admit youre pushing it on that one.
    But thats actually what makes you guys so fun & great !!
    I may get jumped for that but oh well.
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    I don't know about getting jumped, but I can tell you're wrong.

    First of all, at some point and usually very quickly dances realize it's a job. Most of them get into it because it's the best way they can make the most amount of money with what they already have, their personality and body. And those that are good at it realize the sales job harder than any other,



    Every dancer that I've gotten to know as a model or as a friend or in some cases as a business partner, has been extremely quiet in their personal lives.

    Sure, everyone parties differently, and sometimes girls spend a couple years doing the coke lines up all night stripper story things just to experience it,

    but I'll tell you the weekend I spent in Vegas with one of my dancer friends was probably the least exciting weekends I've ever spent in Vegas. Every night we buy couple six packs dollar beers and walk up and down the strip and stare at people.

    Most of my dancer friends have no time or interest in going clubbing or anything like that because they do it for a job. Skydiving, snowboarding, things like that shure

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanpaul View Post
    Um, I do not think strippers are "science projects, or "some shit". That is some straight up crazy rambling shit right there.

    and I don't know what a tusci is or what it has to do with being friends with strippers and giving a shit what they think? And on that thought, I can read whatever the hell I want to on the old w-opentothewholedamnworld-w-don'tpostcraphereifyoudon'twantitread-w.
    Guys, we touched a nerve.

    We KNOW every asshat on the web can read this stuff, it becomes annoying when you post a message saying you've analyzed it and concluded we must be misandrists. Good for you, go write a paper on it... but it won't be published cause what you read on one website isn't representative of a large enough sample size to be valid.

    Please, calm yourself. I can hear your angry ghetto accent through the screen. "Straight up crazy rambling shit right there", JFC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanpaul View Post
    I have been reading a lot of posts on here trying to better understand strippers in general as much as someone can group people together and generalize.
    So basically you're here looking for validation of your personal generalisations of strippers. Lovely. So much for coming here yourself w/ what you claim to respect so much in others -- an open mind.

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    Um, I do not think strippers are "science projects, or "some shit". That is some straight up crazy rambling shit right there.

    and I don't know what a tusci is or what it has to do with being friends with strippers and giving a shit what they think? And on that thought, I can read whatever the hell I want to on the old w-opentothewholedamnworld-w-don'tpostcraphereifyoudon'twantitread-w.
    Even if you've only skimmed the first page of threads in each section of the forum, you have certainly encountered the threads discussing TUSCL along w/ the various 'I'm writing a paper for my sociology class! Teehee!' & 'Plz fill out this survey so I can educate & enlighten the public abt all you poor misunderstood entrepreneurs' requests.

    'Being friends w/ strippers and giving a shit what they think' Your OP more gives the impression that having lived w/ two strippers during uni should make you 'knowledgeable' abt strippers in general -- two strippers out of tens of thousands. Then you come on here to a STRIPPER SUPPORT SITE … not a Strippers For Public Enlightenment About The Stripping Industry site … & are in a tizzy bc apparently what you've read here doesn't gel w/ your preconceived notions.

    The whole 'don't post crap here if you don't want it read' bs -- give me a fkng break. You're on our turf & trying to tell us what we shouldn't post? It might almost be adorable if it weren't so bloody pathetic.

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    If any of us vents about guys like any woman would then automatically 'strippers hate all men'. This banned OP did sound like someone from TUSCL.

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    I'll bite. No I don't hate men. A few of them annoy me, but that's the job. I don't speak for all dancers but I can tell you that I'm a female misogynist. After dealing with so much bullshit from the uterine sector I will not even go near one. They are 100x more handsy and entitled than the most inebriated male customer. Just not worth the money. You wanna do us a favor, ditch the civilian vagina and come with your buddies ready to spend and have a good time.
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    I just go to juice bars so i cant get inibriated...inibrited.....drunk.

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    Zeke: SO is significant other
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
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    Oh ok thx.

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    Here's some other acronyms:
    PDOM-Professional Dirty Old Man
    SBM-Sweatpants Boner Man
    PL- Pathetic Loser (this definition is subjective, for me it's anyone that isn't young and hot with long hair that tries to pick me up OTC)
    Which brings me to another one: OTC-outside the club ITC-in the club
    DR-dressing room
    CR-Champagne room, couch room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanpaul View Post
    I have been reading a lot of posts on here trying to better understand strippers in general as much as someone can group people together and generalize. I respect people with open minds when it comes to sexuality and I normally get along well with strippers. I lived with two of them when I was in university and I thought I sort of knew in general common themes among strippers.

    I never imagined the depth and breadth of misandry I would encounter until I found this site. Is it because it is the Internet? Do strippers really hate men this much? I read so many posts filled with anger and hatred - all directed directly at men as sexual creatures.
    Since this industry is kinda underground and taboo we don't have a lot of people we can reach out to and vent. We are angry at customers, and since our customers are usually 99.9% men, it may seem like we hate men. Yes there probably are some misandrists, but there probably some male gynecologists who are misogynists too.

    I fucking love men. Fuck, my husband is a man. I love my male customers, because they help support me. I hate PEOPLE who try to take advantage of me, and don't value my time and work. That's what I hate. I also hate it when people try to generalize a group of people and put a bullshit label on them when you don't know what you are talking about, or understanding the truth of it.



    Now mind you, this coming from a sexworker who doesn't label herself a feminist.





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    Default Re: are strippers more likely to be misandrists?

    I've known a lot of dancers who hated men, sure. I've known some who loved their work and even genuinely liked to play around at work with generous customers, especially if they had drugs lol. More often that type will play around with guys who work there too, or the very few 'Player' type customers, and there's definitely a lot of them. They obviously don't hate men.

    Most dancers will develop a certain tendency to objectify guys in the clubs, but it's just survival instinct kicking in. There's a lot of assholes who shed all manners at the entrance and they deserve every bit of contempt they get.

    In a similar fashion male staff will very frequently develop a similar attitude towards the women. Again, this is mostly survival instinct. But just as some women on the business really do get to hate men or treat them with contempt, some guys working the clubs get to loathe the women, which is sad I think.

    I think most of what the OP saw here was the usual venting about asshole customers, though.
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    We dislike patrons of our very well paying industry who treat us poorly, most just happen to be men. I also hated my rude hair clients as a hairdresser and rude, abusive patients as a nurse. Luckily, this is a business where we don't have to take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetJulia View Post
    We dislike patrons of our very well paying industry who treat us poorly, most just happen to be men. I also hated my rude hair clients as a hairdresder and rude, abusive patients as a nurse. Luckily, this is a business where we don't have to take it.
    ^Agreed. Personally, I don't "hate" men, but I do feel like I have more of an insight into them than vanilla women and this is both a positive and negative thing etc.
    I "hate" disrespectful, rude individuals ITC and OTC equally-regardless of their gender. However, like many have said, most of the rude individuals I come into contact with are men. Peens make up the not so gender rich tapestry that is the strip club patron. Therefore, when I vent about my experiences with undesirables, they are men 99% of the time.
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    If they hate men, they're in the wrong fucking business!

    Venting can seem like hate when the venting is the only side one sees. Clearly though the Pros out weigh the cons of the industry or they wouldn't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaphallic View Post
    If they hate men, they're in the wrong fucking business!

    Venting can seem like hate when the venting is the only side one sees. Clearly though the Pros out weigh the cons of the industry or they wouldn't do it.
    You're entitled to your opinions, doesn't mean we agree or have to convince you differently. We are entitled to work, not think about customers til we work again, and then work again. We can vent and decompress between shifts. We mostly vent in sections meant for women only, so you can stay in the blue portion if what sex workers who you'll likely never mmeet from all over the world bothers you enough to use exclamation points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaphallic View Post
    If they hate men, they're in the wrong fucking business!
    Actually, I've seen some girls who HATE men make mad money precisely because they hate them. They feed on the idea of hurting them financially by draining the guy of every dollar in his wallet. Whether that really hurts any of them financially is up for debate (I'm sure half of those guys were intending to spend it anyway, but the other half it may have been their rent money). Point is, they're kind of in the right business as long as they're good at their job... which is to get money from the customers... doesn't matter how they feel towards the guys.
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    PS-we get paid to be nice at work and are damn good actresses. Who cares if someone hates you if they're nice to you while you're at their workplace. If you're tryinng to get them outside of it, make sure you pay in advance and you have my honest, adult industry persona promise-I love men, especially overweight ones old enough to be my father and I swear on every bad toupee, pot belly, and extras seeking Indian that I've come across, she'll be there and experience genuine pleasure at your skilled hands lmao
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    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

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