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    _whoreXXX_ (not a real model name) Well done!! Thank you for training these guys to NOT pay. The girls in the top 2 rows, and even they girls have 500 freeloaders during a gold show countdown with only 10 tippers for show.

    How is it that you can see Taylor Swift stand up for an entire music industry, that you wan see the movie industry and even the porn industry stand up against piracy, against free download sites, people watching/listening and not paying but not get the message?

    If you've ever been around a man, you know damn fucking well, all it takes to get a rise is a word, a breeze, a glance, but show continue to show your pussy, ass in tits in free chat and dirty talk for guys who won't even tip you $1 because they are too busy wanking to what you are giving free.

    I know there will models who report this thread as abusive, will report this thread as argumentative and will post a rebuttal about how good showing tits, ass and pussy is for them and then sit in a chat room with people who wont pay for the next two hours. My question is what will it take for you to get it?

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    Well I'm in the top two rows and I don't show shit for free...

    Though it seems today the only traffic I have had is people wanting free shit.... end of the month I guess.
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    I don't know who trained them no to pay but it's definitely not the models. It's all about their own mindset and intention. The guys who came to the site to spend will pay no matter if there are free tits or not, and the ones who came to freeload won't pay or will pay as little as possible.
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    everyone has a different hustle.

    i find myself banning people who have shown me love before but don't know how to act in the moment. some guys have maybe viewed these girls shows before and now feel entitled to free action. who knows?

    stand up for what makes you happy and what feels right.

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    Let me ask you a question. When was the last time YOU tipped gold in a model's show? *crickets* I'll wait...

    So it's okay for you to go around to people's rooms and not tip, but other guys can't? Why are you so concerned with what another model is doing in her show? Doesn't make sense does it? She's making money and hustling the way she wants to. You aren't. Because you're in her room when you should be in your own. You don't know what happened before you got there, (but you probably stalked and stayed the whole countdown) you don't know if some of those freeloaders took her pvt before, or tipped in or will tip in once the show starts. I can't tell you how many times I've done a show where the guys were begging but once the show started those "freeloaders" were tipping gold inside of the show away from prying eyes.

    Taylor Swift can "fight pirating" (*cough* notice the loophole with Apple because she's about HER bread) all she wants but that's not going to eliminate pirating. Here's a lesson: People are going to break the rules; just make sure you don't if you're not a rule breaker. You will never control what someone else does, you don't know their story, so keep your sanity, and mind ya bidness!

    Models, if you have an issue with the way another model makes her money, here's an idea. STAY IN YOUR OWN ROOM. Problem solved! I'm sick of other models bitching and moaning about other models when it's the system they should be bitching and moaning about. IT'S A FREE CHAT SITE. SM is a FREE chat site with the OPTION to go private. Goldshows were PURPOSELY meant to be used to get freeloaders to spend money. The whole concept of FREE CHAT is meant to attract. It's our job to do what we have to do to draw the money out of those cold, cheap hands so if someone's doing that; let them!




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    You can go to any cam site and see that there can be 1,000 people in the room and only 10-15 people actively tipping/paying. That's just how it is. People go to cam sites out of curiosity, some will become tippers/paying customers, but many will not. If you go to MGF and look through all of the accounts that show as currently online you will see 100s of accounts that have been on the site from anywhere between 1 year to 4 years with no ratings and their profiles will say they have no credits. They signed up to see what the site was about, then decided that they didn't want to pay and just look through profile photos for a quick jerk. It's the nature of the business.

    While many people will eventually pay when they realize that they can't get everything for free, you will still have a lot of people that will ask for free stuff and though sometimes they will get it, they often will not.

    I used to go into model's rooms and watch what they did, just to get an idea of what I could be doing (by making it my OWN thing) and I would get so frustrated. XModelX was doing the same things that I was and she was making so much more! I was jealous and angry that I was online doing my hustle for hours at a time and barely making a portion of what that model was doing in less than an hour. Honestly, I got very bitter about it and it showed when I was online!

    I finally sat down and thought my way through it. It didn't matter what other people were doing, how much they were making, and it REALLY didn't matter because it didn't affect me in any way (positive or negative). The only thing that did affect me was letting it go to my head. So I buckled down and did my own thing and said fuck everyone else. Now I look through twitter and while I see models getting hundreds of dollars in tributes and gifts and I don't, I still make money on my sites doing what I love doing. As long as I am happy I don't give a fuck what anyone else does and you shouldn't either.

    Everyone is different and maybe showing a little for free pays off for them in the long run and if it doesn't they will likely not stay in this industry because it's too much work for no gain.

    But then again, who gives a shit? Just you, probably.


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    Forget about other models. Concentrate on your hustle. If you don't want to show anything then don't, they are your body parts. Just because other models like to flash in free chat, it doesn't mean they will take your business away. You are a special snowflake with your own special combination of assets that no one else can replicate.

    Put is this way...if you really, really wanted a Prada bag would you be happy with a Target knockoff? That's how it is with freeloaders. They make-do with the lower priced items to get their Prada urges met. Then, one day, they just can't bear it anymore and they get the fucking Prada bag.
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    I think it boils down to a lot of us looking inside of ourselves, and checking our insecurities and jealousy at the door. We need to face the facts that some girls can bat their eyes, do a hair flip, and the guys will tip BIG. You might not be able to do that, but that's okay- work on your own hustle and be happy with what you get and strive for more.




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    Camming 101, if you aren't busy enough in your room that you need to creep on and worry about other models room, you definitely need to work on your hustle and not worry about anyone else. You should focus on YOU! There will always be a crap ton of freeloaders, and there will always be spenders, its how YOU treat the traffic in your room that matters, who cares what everyone else is doing. If you spend too much time worrying about others it'll affect you more than you think so it's not even worth it.

    As long as you're doing what you need to, and not breaking the rules, that's what is most important. What YOU do, not what others do! Don't let another cam girl and her antics get in the way of the real reason you're online, thats to make money, and if you are spending time creeping other rooms and not paying attention to your guests, whats the point of being online?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justsometwat View Post
    I used to go into model's rooms and watch what they did, just to get an idea of what I could be doing (by making it my OWN thing) and I would get so frustrated. XModelX was doing the same things that I was and she was making so much more! I was jealous and angry that I was online doing my hustle for hours at a time and barely making a portion of what that model was doing in less than an hour. Honestly, I got very bitter about it and it showed when I was online!

    I finally sat down and thought my way through it. It didn't matter what other people were doing, how much they were making, and it REALLY didn't matter because it didn't affect me in any way (positive or negative). The only thing that did affect me was letting it go to my head. So I buckled down and did my own thing and said fuck everyone else. Now I look through twitter and while I see models getting hundreds of dollars in tributes and gifts and I don't, I still make money on my sites doing what I love doing. As long as I am happy I don't give a fuck what anyone else does and you shouldn't either.
    This is probably the best advice I've read. Thank you!!

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    It must be that time of the month again.....when someone signs up here on SW just so they can tell us how to do our job. Thank you for that. I always enjoy reading the brilliant comments from the incredible ladies who contribute to this forum. Couldnt have done it with out you!

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    I enjoy watching other models work. It's fascinating to see how differently girls control their rooms. I cheer when someone obliterates a high goal. I love seeing my industry-friends succeed. They're success is good for the entire industry, as far as I'm concerned, and that's doubly true when I know them personally. It works in reverse too--when I see my friends and industry-members struggle, it bothers me because it speaks to the industry struggling at that point in time and that's not good for anyone, myself included.

    Does it bother me to see blatant disregard for site rules? Yes--but not because I think it hurts me personally. My earnings are my earnings; my hustle is my hustle. I make bank when I'm fully clothed and require tips just to see the slightest tease in free chat. Other girls make bank other ways, and that's no skin off my back. What bothers me is the inconsistency in enforcement from ownership and moderators, and that's because it creates confusion for models and members as to what we can and cannot do in our shows. If a girl has never been penalized for doing something against site rules, that's on her and she risks her own income when she does it, not mine.

    I'm bothered by random enforcement because it speaks to a lack of training for the support/moderator team. That lack of training bothers me because it means the people who run the site I use to make my money aren't qualified. That leads to problems, be that in response to technical issues I'm having, problems with customers, or just site maintenance. At no point is another model involved in my opinion, though.

    As other girls have mentioned--you do you. No one else is hurting your cash flow. If a member of the site is just looking for freebies, he was never going to spend on you in the first place. That's not the demographic you're aiming to convert. If the demographic that you want isn't spending--and for most of us that means high rollers who are respectful--all that means is you need to up your game. And again, that's on you, not what another model is doing.



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    Hey, at least as a camgirl I have my OWN room. I pay no mind to other girls, and I wish all the girls tons of money and tons of great guys! I support my sista's. Thank goodness we each have our OWN room to cam in.
    Get this, I was a stripper for years! And I remember working with dozens of girls on some nights where the DJ would have to put 2 or 3 of us on stage at the same time! LOL that was no fun for anyone. I would hope to hold out for $5 or $7 for the top,(top first) and then $7 or $10 for the bottom. Hahaha, you'd be up there dancing with a girl who would drop her panties after 2 bucks! LOL those were the days! God I loved that job.

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    Wow, if you are mad at other performers, mad at the men... can you really expect to make money with that mood? How much fun are you on cam?

    It is a sales job, it is your job to convert those guys into a sale. Some of us are just better at it than others. When do you take responsibility to be fun, entertaining, being so irresistible that they will pay money to see what other girls they badger into doing for free?

    I too, used to be a stripper. Not uncommon for the club to have 100plus girls working 7 stages at one time. Loved that girls would pay the dj NOT to be on a stage when I was on Main stage. My stage shows rocked! I only log onto camming when there are more girls on the site working.

    You are being WEAK! Don't care what customers tell me to do for free, won't happen no matter how many times they type it out. Don't care what other performers do in their rooms, I have the ability to pull in traffic, money off of the guys who do stop in. Lots of cam girls & porn stars love to watch me in free & paid chat too.

    It is your room, take control. Would never let a few customers who never spend money keep me from making money. Would never be so intimidated by other girls who do stuff for free in hopes of making money keep me from making mine either. I don't HOPE to make money I do!

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    Sam38g is THE TRUTH! That is all

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    I can see honestly how this can get frustrating, but truly, would you want hundreds of those creeps and most likely psychos spending their $1 on you and then feeling like they are entitled to full control of you life? Trust me, some guy's money you'd rather not have, be thankful all they do is freeload.

    I only care about getting quality men on my client rotation and seriously everytime someone says "show tits" or whatever, I even point them in the direction of another girl, cos honestly I am not about pandering to the masses and I am secure enough in myself and my hustle that I know people who truly love what I am and fall under my spell will not jump ship. Don't get offended, just do you. I know its super hard when it seems like every person but you is making money, but that's when it sometimes helps to not creep rooms and not rile yourself up. Put yourself in a happy bubble and put your head down. You will also attract better things if you are not riled up etc over stuff you cannot change

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    Agreed Simone, I don't WANT a room full of guys demanding that I do things, so I've trained my room that it's pay to play. Maybe its the almost boner killing nature of how I run my free chat, but my "I don't have a hustle" hustle works for me and keeps freeloaders out of my room most of the time. I look at some of the rooms of other models who do a LOT in free chat and tfc that I don't have to deal with them. Take them, take them ALL.

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    If Louis Vuitton would give free bags as a sample, to make people buy their products....
    * Me, everytime a member has 100 requests in freechat, like he's at a 5 Stars All Inclusive Holiday Resort *

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    Not sure if this is incredibly relevant to this thread so I am sorry (I am new to the forum), but as far as the guys looking for freebies, the more I cam and do gold shows (I only started doing them 2 months ago after getting a better laptop), I have just been noticing for myself that showing off a little more, trying to talk to these guys in a way that they want to hear, sometimes works if that's the type of crowd I have at that particular time, and other times, I really don't have it in me to try to get these guys to pledge, and those are the times I usually don't make the goal because I am so beyond frustrated with a room full of people, not talking or begging for free shit without pledging the paltry amount usually required to join a damn show. Some days I have more patience and other days I just cant deal with it. Last night I did my first $0 gold show... I only did it for a regular in my room who has spent lots in my shows before, and last night was the first night he couldn't pledge anything. He didn't ask me for the show, but I decided to do it as it had started to die down for me last night and I just wanted to make a bit more $ before going to bed. I tried to do a $4 gold show ten minutes prior to this, and I had small interest it seemed so I cancelled, and did a $0 buy in at a $50 goal for a 3 minute show. ALL the same freeloaders who hadn't pledged a damn cent in my previous show attempt, suddenly were pledging to the $0 gold... a lot of them were pledging MORE than the original $4 price I had for a much longer show. I really dont understand the freeloaders, or why guys beg and feel they are entitled to anything but my opinion just from what I seem to experience and learn everyday I cam, is that camming just seems to be a matter of mindfucking lol. That's why sometimes I am hustling topless, and other times I am sitting there fully clothed not interested in teasing for tips - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, so I am always trying it new ways.

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    It is annoying that people beg but you cant blame other performers for that. People are cheap because they want to be. I flat out tell people on the token site I work on you WILL pay for certain things in free chat but shows are in private. If they beg I boot their ass out. You have to control your room and you have to make your rules clear. I dont care what others do because everyone does what works for them.

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    What happens in my room has literally never stopped someone from tipping or coming into your room.
    If I, or anyone else, want to do a $0 show that brings people into my room, thats exactly what ill do. That's my job. I can't get them to pay me if they're not there and if 5 minutes of me fucking around (and getting paid to do it. There's a common misconception. Those of us that successfully do $0 shows are making our average if not more off of them. We absolutely profit 100% of the time) brings an extra 100 to 200 people into my room while it's slow, then I'm doing my job right.
    If you struggle to get traffic or tippers you should definitely reach out to the ladies you see not struggling and see if they have any advice that might benefit you. There's not a single successful cam model who doesn't want to see everyone else become equally as successful.
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