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    Default Is your club inconsistent or consistent?

    By that I mean:
    - Do you make a guaranteed amount, in a certain range, every night?
    - Or do you make a huge amount one night, and then jack shit the next couple shifts?
    And which do you prefer?

    I ask because I just switched clubs, and am debating if I really want to stay here (before I go get the $160 license).

    Club 1, while it had no VIP structure, was consistent; I always made between $X and $XX except for the occasional freak bullshit day, maybe 1/20 shifts. It was also predictable by day of the week, which was more likely on the high end and which was more likely on the low end.

    Club 2, while it has VIP and rooms, is random as fuck. Out of 6 shifts, 2 have been mediocre (low end of what I made at Club 1), 2 have been awesome, and 2 have been absolute bullshit where I walked with <$60, after staying 7 hours in an effort to make something. There is no way to predict either.

    Sooo while I've been enjoying the existence of VIP rooms and not doing $10 dances, I am not enjoying the inconsistency. It's not my hustling either; I've been on top of the booth dance/room sales list 5/6 nights.
    I know the industry is inconsistent but this is a little much for me.
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    Default Re: Is your club inconsistent or consistent?

    Inconsistent. I never know what I'll make even if I analyze the crowd.
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    Default Re: Is your club inconsistent or consistent?

    I've worked at both types of clubs, and honestly I prefer the consistent ones.

    Even though it feels really good to walk out of work with a huge stack, having sold half hours all night... the lows are so damn low. Its hard for me to recover after more than one bad night in a row.
    I used to work in a club that was 2-4 bad nights followed by 1-2 really good nights and that messed with my mood a lot. It would often be so hard to motivate myself to come in, not knowing if it would be good or not, I would get into the death spiral and probably miss out on opportunities for money because of my attitude. It also effected my moods outside of work too much.


    Consistency feel so much more secure, safe and less stressful.

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    ^ That's kind of how I'm feeling. A lot of it is also the atmosphere too. I liked the new club at first and now I'm just like "UGH get off my ass". It seems the inconsistent clubs also have the biggest attitude issues.

    Both clubs are mid-tier, but the first was a lot more relaxed. You came and went as you pleased; no shift minimums; you could take a break to go get dinner; if you had a shitty day, the staff were nice and understanding about it. They refused to take my tips a few times bc they knew it had been so bad, and managers would waive house fee or make it cheaper a lot. Bouncers were not hesitant to beat the shit out of people who tried to stiff girls.

    This one has a ridiculous amount of rules, and the staff are what I imagine SR LV to be like. I've never worked anywhere that I had to tip bouncers except the one walking me out; here you have to tip all 4, and they will hound you for more if they know you're making $$ (which, of course, they don't help you to make). DJs are mandatory 10% and they KNOW what you make, and will bitch if you don't tip accordingly. It pisses me off to give $60 to a DJ that won't even call standby names. It pisses me off to give money to bouncers who hover over customers and make them nervous, won't even walk me all the way to my car, etc.
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    Default Re: Is your club inconsistent or consistent?

    Mine is pretty consistent...Of course I still have bullshit nights but it's rare. I know some new girls at my club really struggle though. It sounds like your new place might be one of those places where you need regulars to make good $$. That's what my Chicago club was like. The girls banking either had loyal regulars and/or did extras in stupidly high priced VIP. The bouncers and staff were super greedy and there were tons of rules and dress codes (No thong on the floor...in a strip club...really?) I'm much happier in this club. It still has VIP but they're cheaper and the whole atmosphere is more relaxed.
    When I left my old club it was dying out. So many days were completely DEAD and a lot of girls quit because they couldn't keep up with the fees/tip outs without turning tricks. So the club started hiring more tacky/unattractive girls which ran off the customers with money and brought in hood rats and cheap hicks. Glad I got out when I did. There aren't a lot of millionaires coming through my club but I do just fine off the IT guys, blue collar workers and truckers.

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    ^ my old club was regulars heavy and I still did ok by lap hopping. I did the same amount of work except mine was physical vs mental ( they talked to regs for an hour). I had the kind of regulars that would dance with me if I happened to catch them, but they didn't plan to come in for me, ya know? Loyal to the club but not 1 certain girl. I only left because the crowd was getting ghetto :/

    I've made great money here on 2 occasions, and it appears that on the bullshit nights NOBODY makes money. There really don't seem to be extras; management is always watching cameras. I think they are running a tight ship and hoping the fact they're the only club in a 25 mile radius will save them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttonpop View Post
    Consistency feel so much more secure, safe and less stressful.
    They add up in the end anyway. If you have one really good night and then some no money nights, compared with some good and meh nights at a consistent club. It adds up to be the same money at the end of the week, at least for me. I'll take the less stressful route.

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    Default Re: Is your club inconsistent or consistent?

    Inconsistent.

    The first few months after I got my hustle down, I knew I could walk in for 4 hours and make my minimum financial goal easy.

    But these cocksucking owners keep changing rules and increasing dancer fees to the point not only am I constantly having to adjust my hustle accordingly by having to squeeze more money out of customers but also not making as much for the same effort.

    It sucks sweaty balls. Cause I can only work a couple times a week so a sh*tty day makes me want to have a meltdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starling View Post
    They add up in the end anyway. If you have one really good night and then some no money nights, compared with some good and meh nights at a consistent club. It adds up to be the same money at the end of the week, at least for me. I'll take the less stressful route.
    See that's it! It adds up the same but a $50 night pisses me off and ruins my morale for the next night. It's not worth the mental roller coaster.
    There's girls here that love that they basically sit around for hours between selling a chunk of dances. I find that hella boring and it gives me anxiety when 3 hours in I have nothing. The less stressful route to me is selling 3-4 dances to each customer and being steadily busy.
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    Default Re: Is your club inconsistent or consistent?

    I've worked at both types of clubs.

    Club #1:
    Ridiculous house fee. Mandatory minimum $15 tip out to house mom (regardless of whether or not you used any of her supplies or even interacted with her all shift), $10 to the DJ, but of course, both expect more. Gorgeous dancers for the most part, so it was really hard to stop from getting down on myself about my appearance when I had a bad night. Terrible lows - I had roughly one shift in the negative every month. *But* the feeling of ending a shift with so much $$ that I wanted to throw it down in a pile and roll in it (on the nights when it happened) was amazing.

    Club #2:
    No house fee. $12 minimum tipout to the DJ. Earnings were steady, but kind of limited since floor dances were nonexistent, and there weren't nearly enough VIP rooms/lapdance space for busy nights. On a bad night, it felt good to not be stressing out about having to make $X more just to pay the house fee and break even.

    I kept track of my earnings at each club, and found out that on an hourly basis, I made about the same at each place. Have you tried doing that? It might help you decide.

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    Yeah I did average it out. It's pretty damn near the same hourly average. One or two of those <$60 shifts tank my monthly average. The only difference is that the relaxed club is twice as far.
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    ^ i was going to suggest that too- figuring out your hourly rate.

    Don't underestimate the importance of how you feel at each club....

    Do you feel valued and respected by the staff or do they just have their hands out/do they gossip about other dancers?
    Does the DJ accomodate the crowd and play music that suits that market? or does he only play what he likes/what a dancer tips him to pay (which is a bad thing if her music empties the club)?
    Does the changeroom feel toxic or do the girls motivate and inspire each other when backstage?

    All the things that contribute to your mood at work will have a massive effect on your potential income, so when you figure out your hourly rate its worth considering that as well.
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    Great post ^^

    Honestly for me the best club is the one where I can mentally handle the most shifts. My odds of having a big money night are increased by actually going in to work.

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    When it came to inconsistency I found myself working in those clubs almost never lol. Not enough motivation to go not knowing I can't walk out with at least something.

    Plus strippers that aren't busy trying to make money will have the free time to cause trouble.

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    Flick, you're right, that does play into choosing where to work. I get tired of the bouncers making comments like "don't forget about us!' every time I sell a room/booth... *I* sold that, not you. I'm always hoping the DJ doesn't count his tip; the one asshole would probably not hesitate to argue if he thought I was busier.

    I've also never heard so many girls volunteering their earnings, which are all stupid high. It's kind of hilarious. The one girl who did it yesterday, I've never once seen her name on the room/booth sales list, which renders her alleged earnings impossible. All these girls appear to work 5-6 days a week, which usually means the money sucks.

    I think I'm going to give it one more weeknight and see what happens... I worked last night from 5:30pm to 11pm... on a Saturday I walked out with $140. That is absolutely unacceptable.
    I'm sick of people making excuses too; "the fight/football/baseball was on!" Right, well, I waited around for 2 hours after it was over and still nobody came in except a bunch of couples, young guys with nothing but singles for the stage, and guys who wanted to talk to each other at the bar. It's been like that every night.

    Jesus fuck, I'm tired of AZ >:[
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    Flick, you're right, that does play into choosing where to work. I get tired of the bouncers making comments like "don't forget about us!' every time I sell a room/booth... *I* sold that, not you. I'm always hoping the DJ doesn't count his tip; the one asshole would probably not hesitate to argue if he thought I was busier.

    I've also never heard so many girls volunteering their earnings, which are all stupid high. It's kind of hilarious. The one girl who did it yesterday, I've never once seen her name on the room/booth sales list, which renders her alleged earnings impossible. All these girls appear to work 5-6 days a week, which usually means the money sucks.

    I think I'm going to give it one more weeknight and see what happens... I worked last night from 5:30pm to 11pm... on a Saturday I walked out with $140. That is absolutely unacceptable.
    I'm sick of people making excuses too; "the fight/football/baseball was on!" Right, well, I waited around for 2 hours after it was over and still nobody came in except a bunch of couples, young guys with nothing but singles for the stage, and guys who wanted to talk to each other at the bar. It's been like that every night.

    Jesus fuck, I'm tired of AZ >:[
    Haha, wow, this sounds almost exactly like my former club! I always wondered how some of the dancers were always broke if they were working 5-6 shifts a week making "only" $400/night.

    At least they had envelopes that you could use to leave a tip for the DJ (the house mom stored them until the end of the night) vs. handing it to him directly. I'm pretty sure that they were meant for the dancers who had shifts that ended earlier, but I always worked until closing and used them to avoid the whole "you didn't tip me enough for basically doing nothing" argument.

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    I work in Vegas and rotate through three places. One is inconsistent, there's nights I've worked there and made 20x my house fee and there's nights I've worked there and made my house fee plus 17 dollars after tipping out. I will only ever work at this club if I have already hit my weekly goal and don't care how much more money I make. The other two clubs are a lot more consistent for me but I'm only consistently making about 10x my house fee on weekends and about 6x on week nights.

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    Pretty consistent with a really good shift or shitty shift thrown in the mix. Even if it all does even out in the end, I prefer consistency. It's nice going in and knowing that you're going to make around $x amount. A super good night preceding a few shitty nights would just fuck with me too much.

    I mean, the last week of August was painful-- I was making below my average, but I think that was due to my attitude. There was money in the club, but I chose to leave early on 2 nights due to my inability to leave my personal life OUTSIDE of work. Lol

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