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    Does anybody have this problem where they literally low key try to be the best girl in the club? Sorry if this sounds like a stupid ass question, and I'm sure it is, but I was just wondering. I'm not trying to offend anyone by the way I word this.

    I feel like my selling point is making customers feel like I'm "different." I tell them I'm in school, I tell them I do this job because it's a turn on, and I carefully (almost psychopathically) pick out my outfits to ensure that my image is one that classy customers are more inclined to like. None of which is false.

    Disclaimer: I don't trash talk any of the other girls in any way at all, talk about other dancers at all, or try to make anyone feel bad. This is just a tactic or "hustle" on the customers I use. I'm not that bitch at the club.

    I feel like recently, I have gone to a new club in which I stirred up the game a little. Girls are all stepping up their game now, and I feel like it's getting harder and harder to top myself.

    I usually make very good money, however lately I just feel unmotivated and not confident. Also, I am starting to approach customers with less energy and enthusiasm. Not ok. *rant*

    Just wondering if anyone knows the feeling. I think what I'm going to do is meticulously search all week for better outfits, maybe even get some hair extensions to step up my game even more. Hell, even try to get some stuff tailored or custom made at this point. Yes, my confidence in my money making in the club is very closely tied to my appearance.

    Sorry in advance if this post came off the wrong way for any reason. I'm just trying to make a lot of money, so I over think every aspect of this job.

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    What was the question?
    Tiny tweaks----->BIG CHANGES

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    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    It sounds like you went from being a big fish in a club with no hustlers to just another hustler in your new club. I don't think you can really attribute the girls suddenly becoming hustlers due to your arrival at the club, but regardless, you're not a big fish anymore. I'm guessing you went from a smaller, more neighbourhood-y type club to a bigger and more upscale one?

    Personally, I prefer clubs full of hustlers. I find it leads to more money overall. Non-hustlers train customers to expect that a dancer will sit and chat with them for hours without having to give her any money (other than paying for drinks)/ Slowly, that ends up becoming an expectation when patrons visit the club and it eventually gets harder to close the sale in a reasonable amount of time. When the club is full of hustlers, the customers know they have to spend and don't just expect dancers to entertain them for free or for a couple of drinks.

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    I think you burned yourself out. Nothing wrong with trying to top your own goals, but you can't do it EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

    You'll mentally last a lot longer if you just set a range of $$ you're satisfied with every night instead of constantly trying to push for more, because at some point you will max out the club's and/or your earning potential, and then you will get disgruntled when you can't top it. Even the best hustler has a ceiling of some kind.
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

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    Que???
    "Fake tits are like Kevlar. They don't guarantee your chances of survival but they sure as hell improve it."
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    I went through a phase like that when I first got my boobs. The money seemed to come ridiculously easy once I had a set of DDs. But word got around that there is money in the club, and the hot girls started showing up to cash in. I had gotten lazy about hustling by being a big fish in a small pond, and had to really step up my game.

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    Thanks everyone for the constructive responses. I literally think I'm just burned out.

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    By being the best, do you mean being the most attractive girl there or by making the most? I'm a humble person, I don't mean for this to come off as conceited, but at all the clubs I've worked at so far I've always been the most attractive one in the "general way" as well as the top earner.
    I understand different people might find different looks attractive. What I mean is that I'm neutral as far as the look I fall into, no tattoos, white but offten get mistaken for Hispanic so I can play either card, not too skinny, not too big etc. I just recently started dancing at a nicer club that gets lots of tourists, I still make good money and I still honestly believe I'm the most attractive one there (alot of other girls are pretty but have botched boob jobs/ facial plastic surgery that makes them look like a cartoon character, etc.) This is a ridiculously clean club too.The managers are glued to watching the cameras in the rooms all night. I still get rooms but not as consistently as some of the other girls. So yes for me I'm always striving to be the top earner every night too. There's this other girl who is cute and sweet but very plain. Somtimes I mistake her for a customer because she wears no makeup, she wears these tiny 2 inch office heels, she wears a dress that looks like you would wear to the office. Thick material, comes down to knees, isn't form fitted. Somehow this girl is always in the champagne room though.
    I took her aside one night at about 11pm or so and was just like "hey so what's the deal? I always make money easily, what am I doing wrong that I'm not selling rooms like you? " she just said she wasn't sure and then she asked me "have you made $1,000 yet so far tonight?" I laughed and said no. I was maybe at $200 at that point but the way she said it implied that she had already made a grand and was trying to see how far off I was from her at that point. Maybe I just haven't figured out the specific hustle for this club yet. Maybe the majority of guys feel more comfortable with girls who are played down and approachable instead of the glamazon stripper type.
    Idk I always thought the point of the club was to be a fantasy and not look like someone from every day life.
    Maybe guys take her to the rooms because she looks like a newbie and they think they can take advantage? Her opener line isn't all that impressive. She just goes up and asks guys if they want "sexy lapdance". I'm not knocking the girl, I'm just really fascinated that she really puts no effort into her look or sales pitch but some how manages to do alot of rooms. There's this other other girl who is easily the most unattractive one (looks pregnant, man face, horrible skin) she gets alot of rooms too. A couple nights later I saw the unattractive girl out side the club getting into a taxi with an older man. They didn't interact like they had really known eachother for too long. I speculate that she probably gets guys in the rooms by promising them to meet outside after.

    I know it sounds like I spend too much time knowing their business but the only reason I know how many rooms they do is because at this club when you take a guy to a room, the DJ announces to the whole club that "whoever just sold a room!!" I think they do it on purpose to remind the guys that there are private rooms and to increase competition amongst the girls.

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    Violetta--I know exactly what you are talking about. I have been trying to shift my goal from "be the best in the club" to "make lots of money". These goals are similar, but not the same. I still try to better myself and bring up my nightly average, but try not to obsess over a night where I did well but someone else did better.

    Also, everyone is going to have off nights, whether they're the hottest, the best hustler, whatever. Sometimes there's no money in the club. And sometimes the only money in the club is guys who have a thing for blondes/girls who look pregnant/tiny girls/other things I'm not. That's not a reflection on me, it's a reflection on a job where personal preferences can pay a larger role than any skills we might possess.

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    ^so much truth in guys what a very specific type (sometimes) look at all the far-out requests the cammgirls get asked for; those girls can market attributes that it would never have occured to me is a turn on.

    NakedNicole, If any girl asks me how I make money I can give them specific ideas such as sales training/SW, knowing how to maximise my physical assets. When other girls (who aren't already good hustlers) use my one liners etc it just comes out wrong. There is no one size fits all sales tip- which is why there is room for many types of dancers too.

    A very good hustler once emphasised to me that certain types of girls weren't 'our' competition. She meant girls who promise more and do more (such as extras or even just more lenient with club rules). Honestly, the less time spent thinking about girls who aren't willing to offer real help or who aren't your competition, the better.

    Instead of asking for help from someone who makes you feel worse after talking to them (whether its intentional or not) read a favourite SW hustle thread and practice one of the tips with every customer for the rest of the week (thats maximum 7 tips per week), listen to an inspiring piece of music or motivational vid, go and help some other dancer who has asked you for help, I even read the funniest threads on here to get myself laughing.
    Tiny tweaks----->BIG CHANGES

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirakonstantin View Post
    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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