





wtf?
Why aren't I getting a random fairy tip?
Wow. I love SM more and more every week.
Offcourse they do, its their way of getting models to sign in at day at which they would normally make less $ because models would be taking days off. Also they are profitting from the marketing the girls do on twitter at those days so its a win win for them. More top models online upselling like crazy + free advertisement on twitter
Dont tell me you Ever thought it was about the models right?![]()
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You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff
I don't think that's the case. Of course they're making money but I don't think that they're doing so well that they can pay for these contests. I personally think that they're taking money for other sources i.e. advertising and marketing to pay for contests. I've noticed that over the years SM has stopped doing alot of things like the themed shows that they use to have on the side bar, tv commericals, tv gold shows and probably other things that I can't think of right now. I remember a while back someone said they stopped advertising on pornhub because they said it was too expensive. I also remember someone saying that they made a drastic change to their affiliate system. Alot of models have noticed a change in traffic, if they truly have cut or lessened the budget for advertising then that's plenty of money to be able to spend on contests and random tips.
I haven't been on SM for very long, so I have no idea what the "old days" were like. For a new girl, I actually enjoy the contests. The bonus money is fantastic. I make about the same every day I log in anyway, so during the contests its fun to have a little more.
You ladies probably had it better back in the day when SM spent more money on traffic though.
You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff




I think in the long run this is going to hurt them because the models arent going to put up with such low pay, bad website platform, bad model support, etc etc... Both the guys and the girls are going to start flocking more and more to indy. They are shooting themselves in the foot. But maybe its working for them for now? Who knows


I wish the SM fairy would drop one of those eggs on me.![]()



I think the Streamate twitter account retweeted it.





Guys I know tensions are high, but I've been given tips from streamate before. But holy fucking shit. Give the poor girl a break. Just because Streamate retweeted it doesn't mean they were behind it. That's called speculation. You guys are just filling holes.
Listen I'm not happy with how Streamate is choosing to handle things. I really wish we had a DECENT 24/7 model support. Because this would end so much conflict. Models wouldn't be blowing up their Twitter and going after each other. And I really didn't appreciate and quite disappointed with @realstreamate feeding the flames. Like it really sucked because I was rooting for that Twitter, because I saw it as a way as Streamate trying. I was for sure let down.
But the level of unprofessionalism on both parties is there. I understand some of the models are frustrated, I know I sure am. But we need to figure out a better way to have this discussion. There are now models fighting with other models on twitter and its fucking 2nd floor girls bathroom level drama. Our social media should be for our customers, and I need to remind myself that too. They don't want to see this, and it might end up chasing them away from streamate all together.
I've been trying so, so hard to play devil's advocate here.
Fuck, don't hate me.

Last edited by loveshooks; 05-03-2016 at 08:43 AM.

Then, my mistake.Good luck to her!





I dont think anyone HERE was picking on that person? I can't speak for twitter? But I really hope that the Streamate reps are reading this. Because it's really sad what the true premise behind their social media campaign is...or what it's become. PETTY. They don't have any followers who aren't models. And the @realstreamate account only interacts with the same people over and over. It's no wonder people are getting upset over preferential treatment. If that girl is getting picked on then thats really sad. People should be mature enough to know where to direct their frustrations. And thats at Streamate. Ive known about people getting tipped by sm for awhile now. Im not surprised. But apparently a lot of other people are and they may need some time to catch up.
If that girl is getting backlash from others, then shame on them. She hasn't done anything wrong. It's the site that should be getting the brunt of everyone's frustration. Between all the tech issues and changes in traffic, I'm one of the frustrated ones and when I saw the post about the tip, I wasn't too impressed. SM has to know that doing that and making it public that they do, is going to fan the flames of tension among many of the performers.
It only bothered me for a few minutes though. Luckily, I don't give the site much thought when I'm not logged on.



It could be SM as the fairy but they RT every tweet they are mentioned in. who really knows.




Me? I'm going into my second year much better than my first. Raised my daily goal a few times, always make it and most days make more than my goal. My traffic and earnings don't change even when I have my geoblock on. Most of my earnings are from gold tips (during exclusive shows) and exclusive shows. My prem rate is lower than exclusive and many times I have more than 1 guy in prem. But most my guys are exclusive guys. I rarely do GS anymore too.
I gave up on goldshows after guys got really entitled to extra content etc for paying pennies for a fucking good show (oh, and after SM disconnected some really great shows and I got NOTHING). I only run a special themed goldshow once a month in the Spring/Summer, and it's all the same guys who show up for it and we have a good laugh. More of a hangout than a real masturbation show.
I'm doing fairly well on SM lately. The glitches are really hit or miss for me, but when I get a day with decent lack of tech ish, I am doing alright. That said, SM used to be my big egg and everything else was secondary. These days another site, indy, pso, and clips are holding up most of the equation.
One great thing is a lot of guys on SM google me and because I use the same name everywhere they find my twitter, my website, and all my indy listings. Once they realize I charge half my premium price on indy, they leave SM and slide to indy on their own
But yeah SM...get your shit together.





Wow, just wow about the last events on SM, there are many things to say but for the moment i decide to be quiet except here is a 'streamate' account thanking some posts a page back, i wish to know who that sw member really is, a sm rep or who? funny to see the member thanked a posts where SM was criticized?! If that is a legit SM rep account maybe the person wanna talk in here & communicate with us?




I hope everyone can see past this and not take it out on one another. It just deflects the true attention away...and that's Streamate, your site doesn't work. Customers know it models know it and you too, know it. You stopped paying for the same traffic, yet you take the same high percentage. All the rest of the Twitter drama with models gives them a distraction and it shouldn't. keep the main idea flowing on the [email protected] your website does not work. Period.
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