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    I had a guy last night who kept trying to go into a half hour exclusive block session but didn't say a word to me in free chat. I kept saying "I'd love a show but chat with me first babe!" before rejecting his request. He came back 3 times and kept doing it. Ugh! Its like, why can't these fuckers DISCUSS the show first?! Especially before throwing down hundreds of dollars all at once. I don't get their thought process here. I want that money for sure but I'm not committing to a half hour show with a stranger without knowing what their expectations are. I've made that mistake before and it was always with guys who stay quiet til they get into the show then ask for the most extreme ridiculous taboo shit, so I block them and lose my block session money (not to mention lose whatever crowd I had in free chat.) No thanks.

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    Ummmmm....wtf is going on today? Why have i had to tell dudes repeatedly that i am transgender? I dont understand how they are getting to my damn page without knowing.....and its fucking embarassing. I can only take so many more 'show me your pussy's followed by an eye roll and explaining that they are in the wrong room, meanwhile making me feel crappy. I'm not ashamed to be trans, but it is a brutal reminder of the huge gap between traffic for a cis girl and traffic for a trans girl.....I'm proud of who I am, but I do envy you girls and whatever SM has been pulling today is really bringing my sense of worth plummeting to the ground.

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    Well it seems that that wasnt relegated to just SM....fucker adds me on CMD where i am CLEARLY only in the trans category....then proceeds to tell me i am gross after i tell him i am trans, due to a sneaking suspicion that his stupid ass didnt know......WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM? What the fuck are these sites doing to me today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    I've only blocked 811 guys so far since 2012. That's only 135 guys a year. That's very LOW. I wonder how many have other girls have blocked, LOL.
    I think I'm at 789! Lol!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DahliaSimone View Post
    Well it seems that that wasnt relegated to just SM....fucker adds me on CMD where i am CLEARLY only in the trans category....then proceeds to tell me i am gross after i tell him i am trans, due to a sneaking suspicion that his stupid ass didnt know......WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM? What the fuck are these sites doing to me today?
    HE'S gross! Fucking asshole.


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    I feel violated, betrayed and robbed right now. The last payment method I've ever had is check. All banks I went in didn't accept it. The last bank I went in had a cost of 150$ off my 800$ check and 3 months to get it in my bank account. I make so little on SM already, and now my own country robs me off of my little 2k a month salary?! Goodbye Streamate!

    Sigh it's time to fine another cam website that accepts wire without to ask me for more than a 50$ fee...Ever since that SESTA/FOSTA bullshit I'm spiralling back into my money problems...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananabunny View Post
    I feel violated, betrayed and robbed right now. The last payment method I've ever had is check. All banks I went in didn't accept it. The last bank I went in had a cost of 150$ off my 800$ check and 3 months to get it in my bank account. I make so little on SM already, and now my own country robs me off of my little 2k a month salary?! Goodbye Streamate!

    Sigh it's time to fine another cam website that accepts wire without to ask me for more than a 50$ fee...Ever since that SESTA/FOSTA bullshit I'm spiralling back into my money problems...
    That's so terrible! I'm so sorry.


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    Are you in the US?

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    the traffic was awful tonight. the ONE very short show i got was from a guy who popped into private and said "hey you're cute! i'm new to this dating site. how does it work?"

    like, are you kidding me? why are whitelabels still allowed to promote us as if we're going to meet up or date? it's totally inconsistent with the "don't meet up/exchange personal info" rule. the whitelabels need to be held accountable too, with all the new sesta/fosta shit. they shouldn't be allowed to advertise like that. why can't we be advertised for what we are: pay-for-play webcam models. not "hot horny babe who wants to fuck 2 miles away! for FREE!!11!1!"

    >_<

    rest of my traffic was almost all beggars or silent guys staring for several minutes before leaving and not saying a word. quite possibly my worst night on SM ever. barely made minimum wage, and that was only because i desperately accepted a low-goal top spot show that only 2 people joined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananabunny View Post
    I feel violated, betrayed and robbed right now. The last payment method I've ever had is check. All banks I went in didn't accept it. The last bank I went in had a cost of 150$ off my 800$ check and 3 months to get it in my bank account. I make so little on SM already, and now my own country robs me off of my little 2k a month salary?! Goodbye Streamate!

    Sigh it's time to fine another cam website that accepts wire without to ask me for more than a 50$ fee...Ever since that SESTA/FOSTA bullshit I'm spiralling back into my money problems...
    I am soo sorry this happened to you, it was to be expected cause checks are NEVER a good option for non US models, it's just terrible how long it takes to get them over here then deposit them in a bank that accepts them and cash them, here it takes a month to cash out & depending on the bank the fees are high anyway but 3 months for your bank to give u the money?!? Holly Molly, that is crazy plus the huge fees!
    That's why i waited for SM to give us an electronic payment option and then when Cosmo had issues i changed to Paxum as my account was still active, i just had to pay an old debt to Paxum.
    I dont have a Paxum card yet but i transferred money into my local bank account as an emergency situation then Cosmo released our money from Secondary balance & i changed back to Cosmo the next weeks cause i have their card to cash out the money; now i have two payment options just for the case.
    You could use Cosmo or Paxum yourself you know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamiss View Post
    the traffic was awful tonight. the ONE very short show i got was from a guy who popped into private and said "hey you're cute! i'm new to this dating site. how does it work?"

    like, are you kidding me? why are whitelabels still allowed to promote us as if we're going to meet up or date? it's totally inconsistent with the "don't meet up/exchange personal info" rule. the whitelabels need to be held accountable too, with all the new sesta/fosta shit. they shouldn't be allowed to advertise like that. why can't we be advertised for what we are: pay-for-play webcam models. not "hot horny babe who wants to fuck 2 miles away! for FREE!!11!1!"

    >_<

    rest of my traffic was almost all beggars or silent guys staring for several minutes before leaving and not saying a word. quite possibly my worst night on SM ever. barely made minimum wage, and that was only because i desperately accepted a low-goal top spot show that only 2 people joined.
    Please, if anyone has guys coming into your room saying he's on a dating site, please screen capture the convo MAKing SURE THE DATE & TIME ARE IN THE PICTURE & upload it to Support. Tell Support to find out what affiliate site the guy signed-up through so they can block the affilate site.

    Being proactive, helping to alert SM to the 'dating' sites is important & helps us (and those customers). SM has thousands of affiliate sites who are sending us customers, and there is no way SM can police them all. Sheesh! If they can't afford to give us LIVE HELP they certainly aren't funding an 'affiliate police'. So if we are aware of it we need to take a minute to report it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoyKitten View Post
    Please, if anyone has guys coming into your room saying he's on a dating site, please screen capture the convo MAKing SURE THE DATE & TIME ARE IN THE PICTURE & upload it to Support. Tell Support to find out what affiliate site the guy signed-up through so they can block the affilate site.

    Being proactive, helping to alert SM to the 'dating' sites is important & helps us (and those customers). SM has thousands of affiliate sites who are sending us customers, and there is no way SM can police them all. Sheesh! If they can't afford to give us LIVE HELP they certainly aren't funding an 'affiliate police'. So if we are aware of it we need to take a minute to report it.
    that's not a bad idea but I'm curious, does anyone here have an affiliate site? I'm just wondering what the terms/contract is like, mainly if there are spelled-out rules that say they can't advertise/promote us in certain ways. I kind of doubt it. And its not like the "click here to meet this babe" pop up ads are going to stop. They're all over tubesites.

    Also, how would support even figure out what affiliate site someone came from, just based on their username/timestamp? Support is usually incompetent AF. I suppose next time it happens i can ask the customer what site he's on, then take a screencap of that conversation.

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    I'm pretty sure I saw a girl asking for her SM private shows to be taken down from a site with videos who was also sending referrals to SM and the support said that they do not DMCA their affiliates so what gives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginnyyy View Post
    I'm pretty sure I saw a girl asking for her SM private shows to be taken down from a site with videos who was also sending referrals to SM and the support said that they do not DMCA their affiliates so what gives?
    My take on this issue...
    Our vids being used by affiliates to send traffic to SM is not considered a DMCA is due to our contract we all signed. The legal-ese says that SM can't be held responsible or accountable for our video stream being used around the internet. By signing-up & agreeing to work (on ANY SITE, they ALL have the same info in their contracts), our video feed & pictures can be used for advertising. Read your contract.

    The exception to that is models who have always been hidden (using geo-blocking). 'Hidden models' do not appear in SM advertising..... but SM is not responsible if someone screen captures us & posts our free chat or actual shows around the web. SM had nothing to do with random pervs recording us, so they have no way to DMCA them. There's simply no way for anyone to police videos of ANY* kind being broadcast around the web, so it's one of the hazards of choosing to do online sex work.

    It is my understanding that we must contact the site ourself, siting to them DMCA.... but if it's an official SM affiliate, & you're a model who has EVER BEEN WITHOUT GEO-BLOCKING then it's possible the advertising clips were produced during that time & shipped to the affiliates. That is the loophole for why SM affiliates have legitimate rights to the use of your video forever. Realizing it or not, we've agreed to it.

    So until SM sends the affiliates a fresh selection of model vids for the affiliates to use, your video will be included in affiliate advertising rotation all over the internet..... forever, even after you've left camming.

    Does that make sense?
    If not, let me know and I'll try & be clearer.

    * Any video, even vanilla feeds from Facebook, Twitter, SnapChat, etc. can be captured & re-posted in whatever way they want by these trolls! The internet is a wild, wild west of lawlessness =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginnyyy View Post
    I'm pretty sure I saw a girl asking for her SM private shows to be taken down from a site with videos who was also sending referrals to SM and the support said that they do not DMCA their affiliates so what gives?
    email Liz. Support is useless. I just sent her a couple of links and she said she'd request to have them removed.

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    You have Liz, I have Catalina Either way, I had a few glitches on my SM account but she was fast and helpful, which I can't say the same about the support, it's just helpful, not fast at all. They make sure to reply in exactly 48 hs.
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    that's not a bad idea but I'm curious, does anyone here have an affiliate site? I'm just wondering what the terms/contract is like, mainly if there are spelled-out rules that say they can't advertise/promote us in certain ways. I kind of doubt it. And its not like the "click here to meet this babe" pop up ads are going to stop. They're all over tubesites.

    Also, how would support even figure out what affiliate site someone came from, just based on their username/timestamp? Support is usually incompetent AF. I suppose next time it happens i can ask the customer what site he's on, then take a screencap of that conversation.
    I do have an affiliate site (if we have the skills to set it up through Cam Builder, we all can)

    There are pages of affilate TOS (terms of service) which webmasters must abide by. But as I said, there's no 'police' going through and looking at what's been created by them. So it's up to us to bring dating sites to SM's attention.

    I only work for SM as a model, & I have an affiliate site I use to drive traffic to SM, but I know enough not to screen capture video to post on my affiliate site (I wouldn't want it done to me, so I certainly honor that with my peers). And I'm not knowledgable or 'big' enough to be privy to whatever captured videos SM has available to their affiliates.

    But I'm a great researcher, and I've had the balls to talk to the guy who signs our checks, so I have a pretty good understanding of how things work throughout SM.

    Because every customer comes through a portal, whether they stumble upon Streamate.com on their own or click on an enticing ad, it's common business sense that EVERY customer has to be tracked & accounted for. All those webmasters have to be paid for every customer they send. Every customer has a unique customer number. So I have to believe that SOMEONE within SM has to be able to find out what portal every customer used to join the site.

    You're right to question whether Support is clever enough to grasp the seriousness of the situation & send the problem to the right department. *Sigh* I don't have a lot of faith either. So maybe it's better explain it to Liz & let her forward to the proper SM department?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    I've only blocked 811 guys so far since 2012. That's only 135 guys a year. That's very LOW. I wonder how many have other girls have blocked, LOL.
    While I've been on Streamate part-time for the past 8 yrs, I've only blocked 55 people. I've got to give credit to having an extremely patient & an unflappable personality. My 20yr background is in sales & customer service requires both qualities to be successful. Believe me, compared to those jobs, being a cammodel is a breeze & without a doubt, the best gig I've ever had!

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    Im using the Logitech Gaming software. 8.96 and it has the control for the over exposure. Which one are you using??
    Quote Originally Posted by Erika_Xstacy View Post
    When I plugged my old cam in I was able to get the old settings
    Thank you. I have the Logitech Webcam Software (lws280.exe) installed. It has exposure (the old settings) I just hate having to open the whole software and then click webcam controller > advanced settings or double click sources in OBS > configure video any and every time I need to adjust my settings. The separate software....Logitech Camera Settings only gives you the webcam settings window aka no extra steps. I'm impatient and like things to happen as quick as possible, I tend to look for faster solutions even if the tasks is very simple.....it annoys me when I have to take extra steps when in my head I see a faster route like I don't want to go from A to B to C if I can just go from A to C.

    Anyways I had LCS pinned to my taskbar so that I didn't have to take any extra steps just to get to the settings. I restored my computer and accidentally deleted the LCS software, when I downloaded it again it was a different version which excludes exposure.... guess that version is for the Brio. I googled but I couldn't find the version I previously had. I had to go back to opening the settings the long way and it was getting on my nerves. I just found the old verson today (http://support.logitech.com/en_us/downloads - https://download01.logi.com/web/ftp/...s_1.1.87.0.exe). Before finding it I realized that the webcam controller window as well as the webcam settings window can be pinned (faceplam) so now I don't even need (and technically never needed) the software.

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    I never post and I generally lurk to keep up to date with stuff but today I have to post this somewhere. I was about to get online, did my prep, was feeling great today and come to the horror that my account can't be found in the database. I'm currently freaking the f out. I've been with streamate for years and just had my account closed due to the new rules. Apparently I violated the "fraudulent activity" policy which is bs cause I ban guys the moment they even try getting me to reveal personal details about myself and or "ask to meet up" nonsense since the new policy was enacted. I depend on this income. I've already emailed Liz. I don't know if there's anything she can do. I'm not even allowed to create new accounts now. This all started with a simple request to support, like I should of just emailed Liz from the start. I'm an idiot.

    I want to cry, still kinda in shock atm. I need somewhere to vent. I haven't had any warnings or past issues with my account in terms of site policy. This has to be an error on their part. This is the last thing I needed. My life has been turned upside down in recent years. I'm also trans/intersex, struggling with my healthcare and like holy shit, I'm so screwed if this isn't fixed. Fuck fosta...Like I debated on even posting this..I hope no one else gets screwed like this, this isn't right.

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    ^ I had my old account closed because of a fraudster. It was not my fault that a dude was creating several accounts doing chargebacks. I mean, they should have known, not me. Anyway, they gave it back to me.

    Then I woke up to a closed account again, one day. This time was a mistake on their end. LOL.

    What I'm trying to say is that they will give it back to you eventually, if you didn't break any rules.

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    Thats a massive relief! Thank you!

    I hope they do but if not, a new site it is. Its a rebranding opportunity in hindsight. As tough as the next few weeks are going to be, the sooner I'm camming somewhere else the better.

    Edit: Cause of the summer slowdown I lowered my premium rate, lowest I've gone in a long time. I'd hate to think that this is why this happened. Maybe I attracted that type of member. The cheapo scum. But I noticed a decent spike in traffic so I kept it at that rate and it did well for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Echo View Post
    Thats a massive relief! Thank you!

    I hope they do but if not, a new site it is. Its a rebranding opportunity in hindsight. As tough as the next few weeks are going to be, the sooner I'm camming somewhere else the better.

    Edit: Cause of the summer slowdown I lowered my premium rate, lowest I've gone in a long time. I'd hate to think that this is why this happened. Maybe I attracted that type of member. The cheapo scum. But I noticed a decent spike in traffic so I kept it at that rate and it did well for me.
    How did you know that your account was closed due to fraudulent activity?

    Man, that sucks. What did Liz say?


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    This happened once to me because i had my account for such a long time and my passport picture was very different becouse i had nose surgery lol so i look a bit different and they thought it was fraud, i freaked out and wrote liz! i almost had a breakdown until liz activated my account again the next day

    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Echo View Post
    I never post and I generally lurk to keep up to date with stuff but today I have to post this somewhere. I was about to get online, did my prep, was feeling great today and come to the horror that my account can't be found in the database. I'm currently freaking the f out. I've been with streamate for years and just had my account closed due to the new rules. Apparently I violated the "fraudulent activity" policy which is bs cause I ban guys the moment they even try getting me to reveal personal details about myself and or "ask to meet up" nonsense since the new policy was enacted. I depend on this income. I've already emailed Liz. I don't know if there's anything she can do. I'm not even allowed to create new accounts now. This all started with a simple request to support, like I should of just emailed Liz from the start. I'm an idiot.

    I want to cry, still kinda in shock atm. I need somewhere to vent. I haven't had any warnings or past issues with my account in terms of site policy. This has to be an error on their part. This is the last thing I needed. My life has been turned upside down in recent years. I'm also trans/intersex, struggling with my healthcare and like holy shit, I'm so screwed if this isn't fixed. Fuck fosta...Like I debated on even posting this..I hope no one else gets screwed like this, this isn't right.

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    Is anyone having issues with lagging today? My stream is usually only like 3-8 seconds behind and today its lagging like crazy and its like 2 minutes behind.

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