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    I am black but I don't really fit any like stereotypical appeal. I have a small butt. I'm actually naturally more petit than anything I'm 5'1" and 114 lbs apparently I gained more than I thought. And am apple shaped 32G(39)-25-35. And most people seem to think I'm white well like Persian Turkish or sometimes Egyptian or Indian. I have big lips that's about it since I'm mixed. I have an innocent kind of look. I have a small nose big lips and large brown eyes a sorta oval face shape. Long hair but I'm kind of not sure what look. Because honestly I change it everyday from curly to straight to wavy to blond etc. I have it dyed black midbacklegnth straight hair. Big boobs and small waistline smaller butt. Also I was wondering are there many Asian dancers? Because I was reading a lot of how there are fewer. But I was wondering why?
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    Default Re: What are black dancer's experiences in predominantly white clubs?

    It really depends on how the dancer presents herself and the club setup. "Black dancers" are not a monolith. I have skinny dark skinned friends that thrive in a white club, light skinned mixed friends that have crashed and burned, hell I've had 300 llb dark skin black girls outerarn me. It also depends on your hustle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    It really depends on how the dancer presents herself and the club setup. "Black dancers" are not a monolith. I have skinny dark skinned friends that thrive in a white club, light skinned mixed friends that have crashed and burned, hell I've had 300 llb dark skin black girls outerarn me. It also depends on your hustle.
    Yeah that's a bit of why I'd think I'd do better at a white club. Since I am on the slimmer side. But I understand anything could happen. A big insecurity is my butt being flat and I don't want that to be exacerbated. Plus my mother is Vietnamese. I think I'd have more an Asian appeal since I'm not voluptuous and am more petit. Only thing is I have big boobs F cups so the appeal is rather mixed I guess.

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    Read up on Hustle hut. In my career I'm too lazy and stubborn so I bought a pair of bolt ons. They're not a guarantee for more money but they sure do improve it. Kinda like wearing Kevlar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    Read up on Hustle hut. In my career I'm too lazy and stubborn so I bought a pair of bolt ons. They're not a guarantee for more money but they sure do improve it. Kinda like wearing Kevlar.
    cool if you go in conjuction that doubles chances?


    I'll look it up thanks.

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    Oh shit skinny with big naturals! Get your ass to the club girl!
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    Default Re: What are black dancer's experiences in predominantly white clubs?

    In my experience (and this completely depends on your location and a hundred other factors), black dancers have to work twice as hard to make half of the money that white girls make. Which is depressing and not right. Obviously that's a huge generalization. There are WOC out there making twice what some white girls make, for sure.

    That said, you have a lot of control over how you present yourself and whatnot, which will skew the odds in your favor. Buy outfits that make your skin color pop (i.e. bright colors, sequins), etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    In my experience (and this completely depends on your location and a hundred other factors), black dancers have to work twice as hard to make half of the money that white girls make. Which is depressing and not right. Obviously that's a huge generalization. There are WOC out there making twice what some white girls make, for sure.

    That said, you have a lot of control over how you present yourself and whatnot, which will skew the odds in your favor. Buy outfits that make your skin color pop (i.e. bright colors, sequins), etc.

    My skin is actually in the light to fair range. I have been taking studies at Novum to make ends meet. I have yellow undertones though. So bright colors kind of look weird for me. I have white skin. But I'm technically black
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    Hmmm. I'm a 5'2 126 lb black chick with muscles, big butt, and a 4 pack. No kids. I wear long black hair and shiny outfits in a club where girls mostly wear bikinis or teddys (sp). I'm one of 4 black chicks, but Im the only one on my shift. I think all of this helps me personally, but YMMV. I say this because I'm in a part of the South where Blacks and Whites usually don't mix. So I get the men who likely wouldn't talk to a Black chick outside of the club for whatever reasons, or they just don't come into contact with minorities very often due to the areas in which they live. My experiences so far have been pretty good since I found that "niche" of men. Just my $0.02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trissy View Post
    Hmmm. I'm a 5'2 126 lb black chick with muscles, big butt, and a 4 pack. No kids. I wear long black hair and shiny outfits in a club where girls mostly wear bikinis or teddys (sp). I'm one of 4 black chicks, but Im the only one on my shift. I think all of this helps me personally, but YMMV. I say this because I'm in a part of the South where Blacks and Whites usually don't mix. So I get the men who likely wouldn't talk to a Black chick outside of the club for whatever reasons, or they just don't come into contact with minorities very often due to the areas in which they live. My experiences so far have been pretty good since I found that "niche" of men. Just my $0.02.
    Your experience is not uncommon. My black friends at work bank off old white men.
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    During my last shift, there was this black girl who was making a KILLING on stage. The club I'm at is mixed.





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    Well, I've always done poorly in black clubs. Never made more than 500, EVER. I do EXCELLENTLY at white clubs. I have always earned just as much or more than my white counterparts when it came to selling dances. Actually, the club in at now has been the first time it's been slightly difficult to compete to them. And honestly, the competition is more of a white girl with big boobs and blonde hair than it is a black and white thing. I like the way I'm treated at upscale white clubs a lot more than urban clubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trissy View Post
    Hmmm. I'm a 5'2 126 lb black chick with muscles, big butt, and a 4 pack. No kids. I wear long black hair and shiny outfits in a club where girls mostly wear bikinis or teddys (sp). I'm one of 4 black chicks, but Im the only one on my shift. I think all of this helps me personally, but YMMV. I say this because I'm in a part of the South where Blacks and Whites usually don't mix. So I get the men who likely wouldn't talk to a Black chick outside of the club for whatever reasons, or they just don't come into contact with minorities very often due to the areas in which they live. My experiences so far have been pretty good since I found that "niche" of men. Just my $0.02.
    That's another thing I kind of wonder about originality. If that's possible for me. Hopefully gives an edge for me personally. I am in Las Vegas so there's a lot less black people generally but still a lot of minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettyglitter View Post
    Well, I've always done poorly in black clubs. Never made more than 500, EVER. I do EXCELLENTLY at white clubs. I have always earned just as much or more than my white counterparts when it came to selling dances. Actually, the club in at now has been the first time it's been slightly difficult to compete to them. And honestly, the competition is more of a white girl with big boobs and blonde hair than it is a black and white thing. I like the way I'm treated at upscale white clubs a lot more than urban clubs.

    That's in part why I feel I should gravitate to a club that's more of a white predominantly upscale club. Because I'm kind of that type of blonde with big boobs. I just think my look might fit better there. Especially what concerns me is being at an urban club that may be more focused on thicker dancers with a more endowed behind. And I don't think I could live up to that expectation.

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    Only the most psychotic of customers will interrogate you on your pedigree and make decisions on how to spend their money based on your answers. What's going to matter is how you look. It sounds like you look kind of generically mixed-race, with big tits and a petite body. That's awesome: it means you're basically a Rorschach test where people will see whatever they're looking for in you race-wise. Wherever you end up, you'll figure out your core demographic quickly enough, and I'm going to guess it'll be a pretty wide demographic for you.

    Keep in mind you aren't signing your soul away to whatever club you try first. If the upscale club doesn't work, you can always try out at the urban club, and if the urban club ends up being worse you can go back to the upscale club again. I agree that it sounds like upscale might be a better fit for you based on your body type, but the important thing is to get out there and start figuring out what works for you and your body type/sex appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Red View Post
    Only the most psychotic of customers will interrogate you on your pedigree and make decisions on how to spend their money based on your answers. What's going to matter is how you look. It sounds like you look kind of generically mixed-race, with big tits and a petite body. That's awesome: it means you're basically a Rorschach test where people will see whatever they're looking for in you race-wise. Wherever you end up, you'll figure out your core demographic quickly enough, and I'm going to guess it'll be a pretty wide demographic for you.
    Being East Asian I get this type of questioning A LOT. I don't think it's really based on the location or kind of club I'm at but I have noticed that it's mostly white men who try to assert whatever ethnicity they think I am on me to the point they get upset if I correct them. Some have even argued that I can't possibly be the ethnicity I am since my English is accentless.. idefk.

    As far as the prevalence of Asian dancers.. yeah the most Asian coworkers I've encountered have been in big cities like NYC, but never more than 5 dancers per shift. Anywhere else it's been more likely that I was the only Asian on that particular shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Red View Post
    Only the most psychotic of customers will interrogate you on your pedigree and make decisions on how to spend their money based on your answers. What's going to matter is how you look. It sounds like you look kind of generically mixed-race, with big tits and a petite body. That's awesome: it means you're basically a Rorschach test where people will see whatever they're looking for in you race-wise. Wherever you end up, you'll figure out your core demographic quickly enough, and I'm going to guess it'll be a pretty wide demographic for you.

    Keep in mind you aren't signing your soul away to whatever club you try first. If the upscale club doesn't work, you can always try out at the urban club, and if the urban club ends up being worse you can go back to the upscale club again. I agree that it sounds like upscale might be a better fit for you based on your body type, but the important thing is to get out there and start figuring out what works for you and your body type/sex appeal.

    Well somewhat not totally though. Sometimes Hispanics will think I'm Hispanic but normally not so much. I usually am thought to be like I said somewhere in the indian ocean radius. Or southeast Asian or black/Asian. Which makes sense I look a lot like my mom.

    What I don't get is when you get hired aren't you committed to that specific club? I mean like any other business wouldn't that put in a bad name if you left? Without staying a good duration of time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baby-cougar View Post
    Being East Asian I get this type of questioning A LOT. I don't think it's really based on the location or kind of club I'm at but I have noticed that it's mostly white men who try to assert whatever ethnicity they think I am on me to the point they get upset if I correct them. Some have even argued that I can't possibly be the ethnicity I am since my English is accentless.. idefk.

    As far as the prevalence of Asian dancers.. yeah the most Asian coworkers I've encountered have been in big cities like NYC, but never more than 5 dancers per shift. Anywhere else it's been more likely that I was the only Asian on that particular shift.
    So do you play up appeal or not?


    Oh well here there's a good population of Asian Americans since it's the coast. I think actually black Americans are a bigger minority. So I wouldn't see why that would be the case.


    So the clubs don't like to hire a lot of Asian dancers? Why? Is there like a heavier quota?
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    What do you mean by "play up appeal"? If the guy is into Asian girls, then it's obvious by just looking at me that I'm Asian. If he wants to know if I can speak my native language, all he needs is to ask. What I won't do is put chopsticks in my hair or wear some sort of slutty geisha outfit. Other dancers may not share my feelings but I try to draw a line between playing a fantasy and a straight up racist stereotype.

    I don't know if clubs necessarily have a hiring quota against Asian dancers - I think it's just that perhaps Asian girls are less likely to audition. On the East coast where I live I've usually been the only Asian girl working until I came to nyc. I do know that the clubs around here have more stringent requirements for black girls, like in terms of covering up their natural hair and what's okay for them to wear and how to carry themselves and such.

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    Unlike nearly every other job, strip clubs don't really give a fuck if you take off for a while and then come back. Some girls travel-dance and dance at a place for a week or two, then leave again. Some girls work at more than one club at one time. It's par for the course. No one asks for references in this business, so even if one of the clubs in your area is psycho enough to get mad about someone dancing for a little while and leaving, no other club will care or even hear about it.

    Every club I've ever worked at or heard of is used to girls coming and going, and isn't going to sweat it if you disappear for a while. As long as you don't burn bridges when you leave, you shouldn't have a problem.

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    Black girls have it rought in this industry, especially at predominately white clubs or even mixed clubs. You will have to work hard to earn good money but with your measurements it sounds like you could do well if you're a good hustler. You also said guys mistake you for other races, and as bad as this sounds, looking mixed instead of black is better for strip clubs. It's not fair but it's the truth. Present yourself well and you will definitely have a chance, with the measurements you told us you have. Good luck!
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    What do you mean by "play up appeal"? If the guy is into Asian girls, then it's obvious by just looking at me that I'm Asian. If he wants to know if I can speak my native language, all he needs is to ask. What I won't do is put chopsticks in my hair or wear some sort of slutty geisha outfit. Other dancers may not share my feelings but I try to draw a line between playing a fantasy and a straight up racist stereotype.

    I don't know if clubs necessarily have a hiring quota against Asian dancers - I think it's just that perhaps Asian girls are less likely to audition. On the East coast where I live I've usually been the only Asian girl working until I came to nyc. I do know that the clubs around here have more stringent requirements for black girls, like in terms of covering up their natural hair and what's okay for them to wear and how to carry themselves and such.
    Oh well I guess you're right. I was just reading some threads and they said that in the past. Of which I was curious about. If that's what they meant I wouldn't do it either. My bad.


    Oh yeah here in vegas and Nevada for that matter it's like more Asian Americans than African Americans here. So I'd think the demographic would be different. But it must be good you can stand out. Why do they want them to cover up their hair? I was not planning to wear a hat or scarf or wig to audition I mean that would be annoying and too hot in my opinion. And why are their different dress code stipulations just curious?

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    Why do they want them to cover up their hair? I was not planning to wear a hat or scarf or wig to audition I mean that would be annoying and too hot in my opinion. And why are their different dress code stipulations just curious?
    It's bs but Western society in general is really discriminatory against natural black hairstyles. Like, the bias that black hair is "unprofessional" or "unkempt" looking has been around since forever, and even the U.S. military has restrictions against natural black hairstyles for women. Even in pop culture it's racist, like when on E's Fashion Police they criticized Zendaya's hair for looking like it smells like "patchouli oil and weed" just because she wore dreads. And since a lot of Manhattan clubs try to market themselves as "classy" they enforce this rule on black girls that they have to chemically relax their hair or wear wigs. Honestly, with the dress code stuff I couldn't really tell you specifically what they're against but every once in awhile I'll hear about people getting warned by management for looking too "urban" or something. Same goes for behavior. I don't know if it's something thats really specified out loud since this is just the stuff I've learned by working in the same environment but it's really pervasive and insidious nonetheless.

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    It's bs but Western society in general is really discriminatory against natural black hairstyles. Like, the bias that black hair is "unprofessional" or "unkempt" looking has been around since forever, and even the for women. Even in pop culture it's racist, like when on E's Fashion Police they criticized Zendaya's hair for looking like it smells like just because she wore dreads. And since a lot of Manhattan clubs try to market themselves as "classy" they enforce this rule on black girls that they have to chemically relax their hair or wear wigs. Honestly, with the dress code stuff I couldn't really tell you specifically what they're against but every once in awhile I'll hear about people getting warned by management for looking too "urban" or something. Same goes for behavior. I don't know if it's something thats really specified out loud since this is just the stuff I've learned by working in the same environment but it's really pervasive and insidious nonetheless.
    Oh I thought you meant like that it had to do with anyone who was black. It's more about hair texture. I don't see this as a problem as hair varies and personally my hair needs curlers to be curly or a perm.

    But that sucks that curly hair isn't allowed in the club. I actually think curly hair works better for me because my face shape is not all that endowed in the cheekbone department it keeps my face from looking too long and more balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Red View Post
    Unlike nearly every other job, strip clubs don't really give a fuck if you take off for a while and then come back. Some girls travel-dance and dance at a place for a week or two, then leave again. Some girls work at more than one club at one time. It's par for the course. No one asks for references in this business, so even if one of the clubs in your area is psycho enough to get mad about someone dancing for a little while and leaving, no other club will care or even hear about it.

    Every club I've ever worked at or heard of is used to girls coming and going, and isn't going to sweat it if you disappear for a while. As long as you don't burn bridges when you leave, you shouldn't have a problem.
    Wow that's good that's more flexible than my current job they don't mind rehiring 6 times but when they're slow if you quit they're not going to hire you at that time.

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