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    Anyone else deal with this BS as a body rub girl? I get it. Men are dogs. But you'd think they have enough sense NOT to hire a body rub girl, when in actuality, then want an escort.

    Not just during, but even after a session I have to deal with their requests about... "so next time can we go further? Would love to fuck you... how much...etc" I'm sitting there like



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    They will always ask. Men want what they can't get.

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    It happens in strip clubs too, and I'm willing to bet it happens to anyone working in the sex industry not as an escort -- and I bet escorts get asked for more than they are already offering, so some men are just never satisfied with what they can get. Some are cheap and think they can get sex from someone else in the industry for cheaper than hiring an escort. Others like to think they're "special" or otherwise like the "thrill" of convincing a non-escort to sleep with them. You just have to hold you own and say no while internally rolling your eyes. If you have enough other clientele who respect your boundaries, simply stop seeing the ones that annoy you with these requests.

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    Haaaa, yes practically all the time! It does get pretty annoying, and lately I've been being bitchy because of it.Sigh.... I always offer to refer them to an escort and it's the same dumb ass bs excuses.I had a guy offer me 1,400 to sleep with him and he brought it with him cash I was like really dude really?How long of a nuru w shower session do you want lol.

    He got pissed but whatever, I'm to the point where I tell them upfront before the session no fs and if they ask anyways I take the money and tell them to leave if they ask.It's funny cause then they consider it a rip off or your a scam but you booked with the expectations of sex or pushing my personal boundaries despite me advertising bodyrubs & stating clearly I am not a FS provider sooooo yeah thanks for the mula.

    Can't say it's all their fault though they go into these Asian spas and more than half the time they get anything they want,quite sure some american spas/ Indy rub girls are doing it too.Which is not making it any better.
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    Yep, cuz they think they're special and you do this for any reason BUT money. So , why wouldn't you want to go all the way with someone thirty years older and two hundred pounds heavier lol?
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    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

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    Yes. I think some dudes are just douchemeisters with no home training that figure since you are a very sexy job that they can just talk any kind of way and test the limits to see how far they can go with you.

    Others have been spoiled by hoes going above and beyond their work duties.

    And others like the blues on this forum have mention are too scary to call up an escort. Remember when guys look to the black market for sex (aka dancers, body rubs, etc) from girls who supposedly aren't selling sex, they believe they are less likely to get busted by law enforcement.
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    I've never had a body rub, but I'd always assumed that implied at least a hand job, and usually more if with the proper tip was offered. Is that not true then? If so, why aren't they listed under massage?

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    @Gameover. Not sure. My boss's boss is a connoisseur of sensual massage+HE, but that's not always implied. It is similar to clean vs/ dirty dancers here. "Dirty" is not always implied. You have to seek it out.

    As a side story, a discussion between me and my wife lead me to (Clean) strippers and this forum in general. She mentioned that he was always so "calm" and "cool" about things were I've been "grouchy" lately. She wondered why. Of course, she asked after I had bedn drinking. I said because of the H.E. he gets, initially at the suggestion of his wife, and I know both of them (35 years of marriage). It seems to relieve his tension.

    To the OP : Yes that's B.S. I guess that is sex work for you. (and the crap you have to put up with from men. Sorry. Srly. Most of my gender are pigs.
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    You have to be licensed under the state to advertise under massage or as a massage therapist. Massage is considered medical and apart of the healthcare field? More as in wha?.......

    Generally a bodyrub or fbsm provider is an attractive lady rubbing you in lingerie,topless,or nude & she may or may not give a h.e depends on the lady?Yeah normally that's standard too.Everyone is different.
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    I've never had a body rub, but I'd always assumed that implied at least a hand job, and usually more if with the proper tip was offered. Is that not true then? If so, why aren't they listed under massage?
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    Not trying to get accused of being a "white knight" here but why not just book someone who does what you want? If you can't find anyone in this great world that does, then go to a cam girl, they seem to do everything under the sun based on what I read here. I get the whole OTC argument, but that is a case where you are not pushing someone, just allowing a relationship to evolve over time. That whole boundaries pushing thing, what are you a child? We get it, you got out of your crib (golf clap).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsession91 View Post
    You have to be licensed under the state to advertise under massage or as a massage therapist. Massage is considered medical and apart of the healthcare field? More as in wha?.......

    Generally a bodyrub or fbsm provider is an attractive lady rubbing you in lingerie,topless,or nude & she may or may not give a h.e depends on the lady?Yeah normally that's standard too.Everyone is different.
    Thanks, I didn't know there was a license required for massages. Also assumed the h.e. was a given. I'm guessing that enough offer it that guys assume that and more is on the table. No pun intended.

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    And I believe the reason the unlicensed people who do body rubs (I don't even think they can call themselves masseuse or massage therapist) don't make as much without a license so in order to make up the difference some of them offer something extra.

    Since not everyone does though it's often up to the recipient to inquire. Most dudes will speak in codes or ask in a way the woman can offer. Like the typical "sooooo ....... what all does the massage include?" The less savory dudes will flat out be like "soooooo....you gonna jack me off or what?"

    That's the difference. To me if a dude is looking for extras or sex he should at least have some tact and discretion.
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    Waiiittttt..... I'm going to drop a K.Bomb briefly: In the healthcare field ie initially Massage therapists coined bodyrub providers Masseuse or Masseur which they have deemed them prostitutes, normally massage therapists don't like to be referred to as such because of the sexual connotations attached to it.I have a friend who went to massage school and her teacher talked about it all the time. @ Miss.a.p I'm so confused about what you meant? You do know that bodyrub girls who don't offer the extras still make around 1k+ a week right?

    I really have no idea why girls do extras/fs,or who go far & beyond do it.It really all comes down to personal choice.Oh and the $$ involved too,desperation,etc really alot of factors come into play.Alot of men believe every woman has their price, atleast that's what the guy w 1400 told me.So that's why guys think if they offer a big enough amount you'll take it.I mean don't get me wrong my bodyrubs are still sensual,sexy, & has lots of teasing but I never go all the way.It's really a matter of personal choice & their situation I think.
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    Well if they can get 1k or more a week without extras they are either dumb or nyphomanics! But I guess it depends on their level of need for the money. I suppose in some cases many women would offer more for the right price

    And I could see where people equate body rub girls as prostitutes like they think all strippers are prostitutes. The women who go above and beyond offering sex is what gives these industries a bad name.

    Hey if people wanna f*ck or give out orgasms that's on them but they should take it to a truly private place so as not to cause confusion (especially with men and their expectations). If say 70% of body rub girls at a parlor offer extras then clientele rightfully assumes all women working there are doing that.
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    Even if no-one at a specific parlor offered extras, guys will still come in assuming because they went too another spa where anything was on the table they'll treat the new spa the same or try and offer up extra money to do it.

    Just like they'll go to a Licensed Massage Therapist and ask for extras. It's so aggravating like if I don't HINT that there's more than don't ask.Men are special beings

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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    Thanks, I didn't know there was a license required for massages. Also assumed the h.e. was a given.
    My physical therapist used to give the greatest massages (body rubs, what ever you want to call them). Mainly she wanted to remove the knot in my neck before we started exercises. Never in a million years would I have asked for a H.E. So, no, it's not implied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominic.2 View Post
    My physical therapist used to give the greatest massages (body rubs, what ever you want to call them). Mainly she wanted to remove the knot in my neck before we started exercises. Never in a million years would I have asked for a H.E. So, no, it's not implied.
    I certainly wouldn't expect it from a physical therapist. But before this thread, I would have 100% assumed at LEAST a h.e. From a body rub advertiser. I think physical therapists advertise massages, not body rubs.

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    Too, some of it has to be regional .. depending on local LE.

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    Well, from a man's perspective, it is a very thin line between a rub n' tug and a little something more. After all, he is already naked, she is wearing something slinky (or less in some cases), his penis is out and he is still cumming, albeit into a lotioned hand instead of an orifice. I guess this is another "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus" type of viewpoint, since obviously some body rub girls have a more nuanced view of the boundary issues than the average guy is likely to have.

    But even beyond guys' natural obliviousness, what some body rub girls do in practice only reinforces these expectations. It has been some time since I frequented massage parlors, but even back then there were a lot of girls advertising as body rub girls who were more than willing to take it the distance, either during a first session or during subsequent visits (once comfort was established). I think that they advertised that way for the same reason that some guys hire them even though they are looking for sex, which is because both sides want the body rub fig leaf as cover from LE.

    Just keeping it real. I know it's frustrating for girls who don't offer more than the standard body rub services, but it has been this way for a long time now and I don't see it changing anytime soon. I guess that learning to manage through this stuff is just a necessary part of the gig.

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    Anyone that sees my posts knows I'm even handed and extremely pro-sex worker, whatever part of work a sex worker gets involved.

    However, I do have to say that with massage parlors offering full service, with body rub shops and studios that offer sex work, and with full service sex workers using a variety of ambiguous advertisements to say what they offer - without saying what they offer because of law enforcement, that confusion in the market place is to be expected. My belief is that it is less about men wanting 'what they can't have' and more about another bad side effect of government intervention in the market. Remove the illegality and then the advertising becomes more direct, service providers are able to stratify better into the various fields of work, massage parlors and studios that are actually brothels then become brothels, and confusion is minimized. I don't blame sex workers or customers, I blame the bad and controlling laws that have consequences.

    With that said, when a limit of service is communicated, and then if someone tries again for something off menu then they are being rude. You don't go to a BMW dealership and get mad that they won't sell you a new Lexus, and if they tell you once they don't have any Lexus and you ask again...well you just look like an ass.

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    I had a few idiots pull that shit with me. Trying to act like the $150 for an hour body rub would include full service. I go, body rubs are HJs only and you know that. Body rubs have always been hand releases. They've never not been hand releases, so let's not play dumb. Even if I did FS, it certainly wouldn't be for a measly 150, seriously? I don't want to offend anyone but some girls these days charge way too little and do too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetJulia View Post
    Yep, cuz they think they're special and you do this for any reason BUT money. So , why wouldn't you want to go all the way with someone thirty years older and two hundred pounds heavier lol?
    LMAO - rolling on the floor. That comment just made my day. Haha. I'm in my 40s and even I don't want to sleep with them.

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    Yep you give them an inch and they want a mile. I could never do body rubs since men just try to cross service boundaries all the time..
    ..that and I'm really awful at massages lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormi View Post
    I'm really awful at massages lol
    I am too. They don't care. Its not why they come anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexymadness View Post
    t been hand releases, so let's not play dumb. Even if I did FS, it certainly wouldn't be for a measly 150, seriously? I don't want to offend anyone but some girls these days charge way too little and do too much.
    Yup. fucking the game up for all of us. Damn shame

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