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    I'm 29, almost 30, and JUST now getting into dancing. I'm really liking it so far. I'm wondering if any career dancers would chime in and offer advice or insight into dancing past your 20s. I still look young. I pass for 25. I've stayed out of the sun so my skin is in very good shape, I don't fluctuate weight much (10 lbs up or down at the most), and my body, while not in great shape tone-wise, is in good shape otherwise. I THINK I could have a good 10 years in this business... with maybe some maintenance required in a few years. I'd really like to use this as a means to buy and pay off a house and save up the money to open another business (doggie daycare, maybe... or a bar and grill... something.) I think that will take me some significant time, and I guess I just want to hear from other ladies how viable dancing is through your 30s and into your 40s. Did you notice money slow down? Did you notice certain things that kicked it back up, like plastic surgery? What have you done to keep yourself desirable in a sea of 22 year old girls? How realistic is it to think I might have 10 years or so?

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    The top earner during the day at my club is in her early to mid 30s. Now, she has been dancing for over a decade so much of her earnings come from long-time regulars, but even without them, she'd still be cleaning up. She takes care of her body (both in terms of exercising and plastic surgery), looks great, and can hold a conversation -- she also has more to relate with the clientele than the 22 year olds. There are other ladies in their 30s with varying success in the club, but that's the case with ladies in their 20s too.

    If you've just started dancing now, I would hold off on making any 10-year plans based on it though. Give yourself a year or so to see if it actually works for you long-term. You need to get over the new girl money, into the slump of no longer being new/not being a seasoned hustler, and then getting into the groove to see how dancing will treat you and if you even want to power through 10 years.


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    I make way more money now than when I was in my 20's. I'm 32.
    Most guys guess me to be in my early 20s because of my skin and body.physically I'm in as good as shape but I now have a nicer ass. I also now how to take care of myself and present myself to be much more appealing. Less make up but better application (I know how to contour and shape my brows) it's natural and not heavy. My hair isn't fries blonde but longer and more natural and healthy, no over tanned dry skin.
    My outfits are much more tasteful but still young looking.
    Besides that my game is WAY better, my dancing is perfected and I have seasoned confidence and thick skin and better work ethic.
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    I'm turning 30 soon and have no plans to stop yet. But there was a lot of trial and error to get there. It has been about 7 years and I finally got serious. To be honest, I had a meltdown earlier this year and nearly retired. Now, I'm putting in serious hours (went from 2 days a month to 4 per week), eating better, working out, drinking less. I lost 15 pounds since August (which is a big deal because I was only 90lbs when I started, now I'm currently 105). I now invest about 10% of my income into makeup, wigs, and revamping my wardrobe. No more torn/fraying tops and leggings. I like my face/hair looking perfect. I make more money now with less effort. I've always been a consistent earner, now I'm a consistent top earner.

    I agree with Shanna though. Learn and save for the first couple of years before making any major monetary investments like plastic surgery or businesses. This is not an easy, get rich quick scheme.

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    I look better now in my 30's than I ever did in my 20's. I was a Fatty Mcfatfat with saggy pancake tits and a gunt. Now I work out 6x a week and sray on a very strict lifestyle regimen. (Because diets don't last)
    Age is a number on a piece of paper. I've seen 40 year olds that can run circles around chubby 18 year olds with McDonald's guts hanging over their TJ Maxx bra and panty sets.
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    I look better now in my 30's than I ever did in my 20's. I was a Fatty Mcfatfat with saggy pancake tits and a gunt. Now I work out 6x a week and sray on a very strict lifestyle regimen. (Because diets don't last)
    Age is a number on a piece of paper. I've seen 40 year olds that can run circles around chubby 18 year olds with McDonald's guts hanging over their TJ Maxx bra and panty sets.
    The only thing I will say is being a dancer in your 30's means you have to be extremely vigilant and responsible. We're not nubile 18 year olds with a high metabolism and a coke habit. We're past all that. (Hopefully)
    My problem area is still my little pooch but hopefully that will go away soon.
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    I'm 31 and didn't start until I was 28. I wanted to strip ever since I was a teenager but there is NO WAY I could have done it earlier, I had auditions when I was 23 and bottled it. I was too unconfident, had not enough life experience, and not enough expertise on hair, makeup, clothes, seduction... you name it. I spent the last 15 years honing myself to the point I am at now and I look the best I have ever looked in my life and this translates to my earnings (and other perks!). My life coach told me the other day apparently the prime age for women is their early to mid thirties. I know dancers who started at 35 and dancers who are nearly 40 and look amazing and make tons of money. Don't forget also younger guys often like older women/cougar types and lots of older customers prefer a girl they can relate to in conversation with life experience.
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    Youth is a commodity that anyone can possess. Pretty soon the novelty of young, dumb, and thirsty for cum wears off. Guys will eventually want someone that looks good AND that they can talk to.
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    I'll be 46 next week and still dance part time. I started when I was 28 and have been dancing on and off ever since. Dancing is a tool in your toolbox. Pull it out when you need extra cash in your life or use dancing as a tool to keep a roof over your head.

    Be ready for massive burn out, though. One day you'll wake up and just know that you can't go back to the club. It may be months or it may be years before you are ready to dance again. But know this, it will happen to you one day.

    ETA: We are in the early stages of the decriminalization of sex work. I have a feeling that legalization of prostitution is going to sneak up on us and catch us unaware. Legalized prostitution will spell the end to traditional strip clubs. We fall into a sex work gray area where we merely perform pseudo-sexual services. Obviously, punishing consenting adults for their private activities behind closed doors is going to be considered ridiculous in the near future. Having sex for free is legal. Having sex with an adult(s) in front of a camera for pay is legal. Paying to touch another person all over their body with the exception of their genitals is legal. Paying to touch genitals (or have someone else touch yours) is illegal.

    We are beginning to see what legal recreational marijuana is doing to the medicinal marijuana trade. Medical marijuana as a business is no longer viable in state that have legalized recreational weed. I see the same thing happening in strip clubs once prostitution is decriminalized.

    It may not happen this year or even 5 years from now, but you'll see an entirely different business landscape in the realm of sex work a decade from now. Hell, this website will probably be preserved as part of sex worker history. A kind of "remember when" nostalgia of the legal contortions between making money and not getting arrested for prostitution.
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    I have to disagree - prostitution is legal in the UK and we still have strip clubs, and we don't offer any extras either. I think it is a different experience, men can come to the club with friends and be social, and bring friends who might not be into it but are happy to sit and drink, these types of men would never go to a brothel. Also lots of men don't see it as cheating as you are not having sex, for some a prostitute is a line they would not cross but a lapdance is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaUK View Post
    I have to disagree - prostitution is legal in the UK and we still have strip clubs, and we don't offer any extras either. I think it is a different experience, men can come to the club with friends and be social, and bring friends who might not be into it but are happy to sit and drink, these types of men would never go to a brothel. Also lots of men don't see it as cheating as you are not having sex, for some a prostitute is a line they would not cross but a lapdance is fine.
    Perhaps you're right. It seems like the more strict the laws get here, the more likely extras are available at a strip club. So maybe strip clubs and brothels can both operate profitably in the same city.

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    I'm 35 and started at 28 and I do very well for myself. I look much younger though and really take care of myself. No plastic surgery, but I'm still a perky b cup. Most of us late twenties/thirties girls do way better than the younguns!

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    I think I look better now than I did in my early 20s. Back then I used box color, cheap makeup, and ate crap food. It seemed like the older girls in their late 20's/30's were top earners at my last club. One lady I worked with was in her mid 50's and had steady regulars in their 60's-70's. She never worked busy night shift or anything but she still made $$$. As shanna said though, please, please don't make a 10 year plan...Don't plan to dance 'forever' or retire off it because 99.9% of the time it doesn't work. You will get sick of it, burned out or injured. Even the older dancer I worked with who had been dancing for 30+ years also worked as a teacher in another city. Don't plan on it being your only source of income forever.

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    My highest earning years were from 34-36 years old. I stopped for a few years shortly after I turned 37. Then I got back into dancing at 44. I still did pretty well per shift, but my age is a problem when it comes to stamina and endurance. I just can't work the long shifts or long weeks anymore, my body can't hack it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wednesday86 View Post
    I think I look better now than I did in my early 20s. Back then I used box color, cheap makeup, and ate crap food. It seemed like the older girls in their late 20's/30's were top earners at my last club. One lady I worked with was in her mid 50's and had steady regulars in their 60's-70's. She never worked busy night shift or anything but she still made $$$. As shanna said though, please, please don't make a 10 year plan...Don't plan to dance 'forever' or retire off it because 99.9% of the time it doesn't work. You will get sick of it, burned out or injured. Even the older dancer I worked with who had been dancing for 30+ years also worked as a teacher in another city. Don't plan on it being your only source of income forever.
    Seconded to all of this. I'm basically incomparably hotter (and especially more knowledgeable, ruthless, and confident) in my late twenties than I was in my early or mid 20s. And definitely hotter than plenty of the 21 year olds in my club!

    The most consistent tippy-top earners in my club are all in their mid-30s. And they all have day jobs. So it's definitely the best idea to have a back-up plan besides dancing. Life happens and there is no safety net when you're dancing.

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    That's awesome to hear positive feedback, I'm 33 and I've been dancing since I was 22 but have been on a break for over 4 years. I want to get back into dancing but i have been feeling old and lacking in confidence about getting back into it, plus I moved country so it's hard starting all over in a new club!
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    Hi, def have to chime in on this thread. I am a long time retired now, but I have to agree with the girls about getting burnt out and not being able to do it forever. I feel a lot of girls get caught in the whole "I can just go to work tomorrow and make more money." mentality. Any newbie can and should ask a business veteran what the one thing they wished they did differently. The answer will almost always be "Saved more money." At the same time, you are making all this money all of a sudden and want nice things for your efforts, so you spend a bit more freely than you should. It's a balance for sure. For this exact reason, I am starting my company. Financial management can be tough. Banking? Taxes? Investments? There is a ton of stuff to know. If anyone is curious or has questions, I would be happy to answer questions or help out.

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    im 28, and have been dancing since i was 18, im still doing rather well but what i think keeps me desirable is learning how to watch people and figure out their fetish, for instance the last big tipper i had was celebrating his birthday, finally old enough to come in the club, and i kind of noticed him following some of us older dancers with his eyes, it helped that his table had a lot of money on it lol, but anyway there were plenty of younger girls and he just wasnt looking at them, so i took it he had a thing for older women, so i basically walked over and was a bit forceful in saying that he was about to spend his money on me, and no one else.. anyway i ended up with about 300 from him.. basically dont try to be young, be yourself, get a teacher costume, every man has different things hes into, so make it a habit of finding out what it is and transform into that, unless he wants a younger dancer, then on to the next! hope this helped!

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    Quote Originally Posted by travelsizegirl View Post
    I'm 29, almost 30, and JUST now getting into dancing. I'm really liking it so far. I'm wondering if any career dancers would chime in and offer advice or insight into dancing past your 20s. I still look young. I pass for 25. I've stayed out of the sun so my skin is in very good shape, I don't fluctuate weight much (10 lbs up or down at the most), and my body, while not in great shape tone-wise, is in good shape otherwise. I THINK I could have a good 10 years in this business... with maybe some maintenance required in a few years. I'd really like to use this as a means to buy and pay off a house and save up the money to open another business (doggie daycare, maybe... or a bar and grill... something.) I think that will take me some significant time, and I guess I just want to hear from other ladies how viable dancing is through your 30s and into your 40s. Did you notice money slow down? Did you notice certain things that kicked it back up, like plastic surgery? What have you done to keep yourself desirable in a sea of 22 year old girls? How realistic is it to think I might have 10 years or so?
    I actually saw my money go up as I got older! That delighted and surprised me since I thought all guys were into the youngest possible dancers. Turns out, for the talky hustle of VIP clubs, it's better to have some experience in the world to share and to help profile /read your custy. So I wouldn't worry about age working against you. Check out hustle books like Flirt and Why Men Love Bitches and you'll be on your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMA Las Vegas View Post
    Hi, def have to chime in on this thread. I am a long time retired now, but I have to agree with the girls about getting burnt out and not being able to do it forever. I feel a lot of girls get caught in the whole "I can just go to work tomorrow and make more money." mentality. Any newbie can and should ask a business veteran what the one thing they wished they did differently. The answer will almost always be "Saved more money." At the same time, you are making all this money all of a sudden and want nice things for your efforts, so you spend a bit more freely than you should. It's a balance for sure. For this exact reason, I am starting my company. Financial management can be tough. Banking? Taxes? Investments? There is a ton of stuff to know. If anyone is curious or has questions, I would be happy to answer questions or help out.
    This is big! Have a plan to execute. It can be whatever you want. I chose to use some on education, some on overall seasoning like travel and trying different business interests on, and I did a TON of amazing therapy, the kind only rich people get to do because it's in depth, long term, and generally expensive. My family has every dysfunction known to man so for me that was the ultimate power move. So really think out of the box and decide if you could do ANYTHING what would that list have on it. Then do it!
    Money is good to have on the list but other interests outside dancing help. It keeps you passionate about life in general so you won't become embittered with the growing monotony of the club scene. The more you get to know the scene the more predictable it becomes but it pays so well that we put up with it as long as possible until the next goal comes up.
    Another enemy is taking in the psychological abuse some customers dish out. Many you will recognize as abusive but the most destructive and devastating are the subtle ones. Read the section at the top of the board that covers how to counteract their subtle brainwashing. WELCOME!
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    Age really is just a number when it comes to dancing. As long as you look good and turn these guys on, they dont care if your in your 30's or in your 50s! as long as you look younger than your actual age and have the right personality, just do your thing! These guys arent looking for a woman to marry and have children with, they just want to get their bone on. Many men fantasize about cougars, milfs, and other types of hot older women so you can definitely do this type of work even when you are older. Just be hot!

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    I'm 38 and only starting dancing as a stripper this year, I did a short stint a few years ago but couldn't keep up the hours with a full time day job and 2 small kids. Most guys guess my age at 28. Age is just a number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastCoastDancer01 View Post
    Age really is just a number when it comes to dancing. As long as you look good and turn these guys on, they dont care if your in your 30's or in your 50s! as long as you look younger than your actual age and have the right personality, just do your thing! These guys arent looking for a woman to marry and have children with, they just want to get their bone on. Many men fantasize about cougars, milfs, and other types of hot older women so you can definitely do this type of work even when you are older. Just be hot!
    Believe it or not, I work with some ladies who look every day of their advanced age and they bank! Part of their good fortune is finding a place that would keep them on and has customers who appreciate them. So if you don't see older ladies getting dances, you might want to keep looking until you do.
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    There is a guy into EVERYTHING and a lot of them love the older ladies, whether they look their age or not.

    There is a dancer out here who is at least 45 and goes to a different club every day, 3-4 days a week, and has regulars lined up at each one. She stands out with long gowns and classiness and making guys feel special, and she gets a champagne room a day and bouquets of flowers, etc.
    Two of my friends are in their late 30s and they look fucking great. They go to the gym and use quality makeup. They look better than most of the 20 year olds. They just adjust their hustle and spend more time with regulars and older guys, and they do better on weeknights than Fri/Sat.

    So yeah, if you're still wanting to dance that long, don't worry! You may have to approach different guys or adjust your hustle style, but you can definitely still make money
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    This thread is making me want to go back. Haha !

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