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    Sad story, very sad and scarey. But sadder still is the answer to why they didn't react to that 'clan' they detected earlier. They had it in mind, but didn't think it was important enough to follow up actively on it? And now look at the cost. How many more are over there? How many are over here? See what I mean?
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    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    i see no point in this thread...
    In nigeria also happened a terrorist attack just 9 hours ago, but i dont see so much river of tears over it. I dont see solidary ribbons on every site i log in.
    i guess people will care if attack happens in france nobody cares if attack happened in nigeria.

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    Plenty of people care about both. Boko Haram is the deadliest terrorist group so far in 2015, over 6000 people dead because of those motherfuckers. All that talk and they never did save those girls. Thousands of girls have been enslaved, beaten, raped.
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    True about numbers, but France supposedly has more capability than those countries, plus France is the US's first ally, and it took place in a major world city.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    ^ That's what I was going to say. I feel like the Paris attacks almost were a symbol of ISIS now attacking the Western world and that's freaking everybody out. I think it's also made this violence seem more real to people in the Western world because stuff like that just doesn't happen in Paris and the victims looked like they could've been a lot of people's friends or relatives. Now when people are getting angry when everyone is saying 'pray for Paris' I think that is a little ridiculous. I mean it is more personal to us Americans being that one victim was from California & a lot of Americans may have friends or relatives living in France.

    I was expecting there to be a thread on this when I logged in a couple days after the Friday attacks and was surprised there weren't any.

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    Since when did Terrorism attacks become "People care more about this one then the other one?" I can't believe that people are getting offended over people expressing their grief, mourning and support and turning it into a negative thing. ( I don't mean on here, I mean in general ) Terrorism sucks. PERIOD. France got more press time in the US, which results in more people knowing about it, which results in the reason that people are posting more about France than Nigeria, or Mali or the daily terrorism that takes place across the world.

    The French are major US allies, which made big news because it brought up the question "Now that France has been hit, what will the US do?" and more importantly "IF France can be hit, than we can be hit." It's very close to home, and exactly what 22lligm said, things like this don't happen in Paris. The bubble of Paris being a romance novel was shattered. It doesn't mean that people aren't sad and disgusted and upset that it's happening around the world, in other places.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IvyAdams View Post
    The French are major US allies
    Without them, the US actually wouldn't even exist
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    Keep in mind that the French helped the fledgling US back in the 1775 mainly to oppose the other world power, England... But Yes, we all feel a kindred w the French, Eifel Tower and all that.

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    what bothers me the most is that all of this crap has been perfectly orchestrated and almost no one sees it.

    I'm in Europe and there's soldiers and armored vehicles everywhere. people are blaming all of this on refugees and want to close the borders. all this talk of "OMG how many terrorists came with the refugees" while the people who attacked Paris weren't even refugees. abdeslam salah is a Belgian citizen.

    but of course that's what they want. for us to hate people who are just trying to better their life and you know, not get killed in their home country. they want us to be divided.

    and maybe plenty of people care about the other attacks, but how many were making a big deal out of it? how many people even care that thousands upon thousands of people die every day in bombings in Syria? suddenly a bunch of white people die and they care.

    I think it looks different when you're in the US. I'm very close to France and I can definitely see the change in people's attitudes since the Paris attacks. and the change is not positive. more islamophobia and racism.

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    ^ Didn't they find that one of the suicide bombers was registered as a refugee? From his severed finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    Plenty of people care about both. Boko Haram is the deadliest terrorist group so far in 2015, over 6000 people dead because of those motherfuckers. All that talk and they never did save those girls. Thousands of girls have been enslaved, beaten, raped.
    A significant number of girls/women have been rescued from Boko Haram.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/01/africa...tages-rescued/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 22lligm View Post
    ^ Didn't they find that one of the suicide bombers was registered as a refugee? From his severed finger.
    only one was a registered refugee, the rest of them were Belgian/French citizens. so once again a case of blaming a whole group of people for the actions of one lunatic.

    meanwhile we have this meme "Jawad, l'hébergeur de Daesh" and people in Brussels tweeting cat pics because the police told people to stop tweeting about the lockdown on Sunday. The Jawad meme is actually pretty funny if you know French, although it's kind of weird to laugh about it. Belgians are known for seeing the humor in everything though and laughing > crying so meh.

    if anyone's curious about the Jawad memes: http://www.minutebuzz.com/reseaux-so...es-par-twitter

    cat tweets: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34897645

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenBitch View Post
    only one was a registered refugee, the rest of them were Belgian/French citizens. so once again a case of blaming a whole group of people for the actions of one lunatic.
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    I think the difference here is just the fact that one terrorist was able to sneak in with a bunch of refugees is freaking everyone out. If one can sneak in then that means there is a chance more could as well and that is definitely a justified reason to be wary of letting refugees in. Plus this wasn't just one isolated lunatic this is a very large group of lunatics who want to cause destruction in the western world.

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    ...1 out of at least 7 terrorists was a refugee, yet people choose to focus on refugees. and everyone was already freaking out over the situation before the attacks happened. this is exactly what they want, for everyone to hate refugees.

    ONE snuck in, 6 others were already living here legally. at least one was registered as a radical muslim. nothing was done about that, apparently. if you look at the numbers it really doesn't make a lot of sense to be focusing on the refugees.

    and let's not forget that all of this stuff was perfectly orchestrated. what a coincidence that Russia only now bombed the oil fields... not.

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    Okay but look at how much destruction that one individual caused. Like 1000 people could be let in, 999 might be actual refugees and 1 might be a terrorist. But that one terrorist can kill hundreds or thousands of people. It's just a huge risk. They tried to get into the stadium with their bomb vests and could have killed way more people but thankfully they couldn't get in. And Russia is now bombing because ISIS took down their commercial plane and Putin is actually aware of the threat we're all facing.

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    and how much destruction did the US government cause?

    lol I love how everyone is pro Russia all of a sudden and likes to forget all the horrible shit they pull.

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    People are just pro keeping violence out of our countries lol. ISIS is trying to cause chaos and violence in the US and across Europe. Of course people living in these countries will agree with any leader who is actually stating that he will stop them from killing anymore people. Especially because our own president has been acting as though they are not a serious threat.

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    I live in a country that is currently inundated by soldiers because of the threat level here. yet I don't agree with the leaders you speak of. I get the feeling you don't really do any research on these issues at all.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1aDciHCejA

    "so here's the real question: why would we as the American public believe any politician who claims that they have a plan for what to do with ISIS, when not one leader has ever acknowledged our role in the creation of that very problem?"

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    Okay I understand there is a lot of corruption in the US government but that's not what I was talking about. The only issue I was addressing was the fact that there is a possibility ISIS terrorists can sneak in as refugees and come into the US and other European countries and then cause death and destruction. Of course I am against that and a lot of other people are too. America may very well have created this current problem but that doesn't mean it isn't a problem that we now have to deal with. We can sit here and argue back and forth about corruption and where ISIS came from and they will continue to plan their next attacks on the western world. Arguing is pointless and now we just have to deal with the problem at hand. And in my opinion not letting in refugees is one way to fight that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 22lligm View Post
    ^ Didn't they find that one of the suicide bombers was registered as a refugee? From his severed finger.
    It's not known that one of the terrorists was a refugee. One of the terrorists was carrying a fake Syrian passport.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...and-dont-know/

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    The ISIS contagion recruiting by digital means can and should be stopped. It is spreading very fast and is very dangerous. Their websites should be blocked and made illegal to access and should be treated the same way as child porn sites are illegal worldwide. There are limits to "freedom of expression", even in the USA.

    In this analogy the creation of child porn is seen to be encouraged by its dissemination, even though it's consumption is not an "active" crime, as it is merely a digital file. The recruiting itself is not an "active crime", but it leads to active crimes. This is the analogy, and this is why those sites should be blocked worldwide with the host sites being promoters of terrorism.
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