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    My previous SD who I was with for 2 years, tried to just up and disappear on me in the Spring. I shook him down for a nice lump goodbye sum after I realized his fuckery. (I know his wife and all so he certainly didn't tell me no, although insisted I never come to him again)

    Anyway, fast forward to now, I need some more money for the holidays and want another lump from him (not as high this time)..I want to tell him I need it for holiday stuff..


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    I'm not married so this doesn't apply to me. But I would like to leave this:

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/la...-pleads-guilty

    Do you really think it's good karma "shaking down" an ex-client for money?

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    This is a rough one. I had a similar situation (2 year long sugar daddy, didn't know his wife personally, but knew all her social media accounts and he would talk to me about her and their divorce, complaining about the divorce/her antics) The soon to be ex wife got a new forensic accountant and he was afraid that she would find me and make trouble for me (and him) and basically he said "I can't send money to you until the divorce is over"(which he estimated will take another 2 years). In the end, we didn't cut off ties as it seems this man you are talking about wanted to do. I would be really careful. I believe there is always a chance to make money, but you need to be strategic and manipulative to the senses. Be sweet when contacting him, throw in a I miss you, been thinking about you mumbo gumbo. See how he reacts, if he reacts well get straight to the point. Play the stress game and say you need money straight out. But if he doesn't react well, just abort the mission, its not worth it. Just find a new guy.

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    Most men, heaven help us, have a weakness for the "hit me baby one more time" (did I just make a Britney Spears reference? Heaven double help me)

    So try that rather than a shake down with implied consequences, is my suggestion.
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    OP, I understand what you're trying to accomplish. Just be careful, and don't be afraid to walk away if things get too messy. Men are killing women over less than this nowadays.....
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    I'm still trying to wrap my head around how anyone would feel justified in getting money from an ex-sugar daddy. When you guys were together didn't he give you money, gifts, and trips? Didn't that cover the time you spent together? I thought the entire point of having that type of relationship was the no-drama ending for either person. There's a few threads on this forum that complain about clients that can't get the hint when the stripper/escort/sb doesn't want to continue.

    I've been very lucky so far that while a few of my former "girlfriends" were unhappy when things ended, they never tried anything like this. At least it's good information for those of us on the other side to protect ourselves.

    How is this any different from a stripper using a customers phone number to find out who they are and to "shake down" that person if he's married. I'm curious what Rick's opinion of this is.

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    Suggest you read this explanation of extortion.

    http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal...extortion.html

    I am sure that at some point your exSD will decide that enough is enough and talk to legal authorities about the lady who is trying to extort money from him.

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    Exxotica,

    I would not choose to do this unless he is interested in taking you on as his sugar baby again. This is a bad idea and you do not want any problems for this holiday season Just try to find another sugar daddy or even finsub if you are into financial domination. I know it is hard to get back on the horse again but it is important to not have a bad sugaring career.


    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    My previous SD who I was with for 2 years, tried to just up and disappear on me in the Spring. I shook him down for a nice lump goodbye sum after I realized his fuckery. (I know his wife and all so he certainly didn't tell me no, although insisted I never come to him again)

    Anyway, fast forward to now, I need some more money for the holidays and want another lump from him (not as high this time)..I want to tell him I need it for holiday stuff..


    Tips?

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    Come now, it is not to that extortion point I believe she just used the wrong choice of word "shake down". But you are right...he could try to accuse her of extortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by zerorg View Post
    Suggest you read this explanation of extortion.

    http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal...extortion.html

    I am sure that at some point your exSD will decide that enough is enough and talk to legal authorities about the lady who is trying to extort money from him.

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    I wouldn't if I were you. He had an expiration date and you're fortunate to have gotten some monetary funds before it ended. But just let it be. There are more fish out in the sea. Holding on and going back to an ex-sugar daddy who is past their expiration date could cause you mental or physical harm. Just be careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoRegrets View Post
    I'm not married so this doesn't apply to me. But I would like to leave this:

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/la...-pleads-guilty

    Do you really think it's good karma "shaking down" an ex-client for money?
    I don't believe in karma and its only extortion if you threaten someone. I'm simply asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    Come now, it is not to that extortion point I believe she just used the wrong choice of word "shake down". But you are right...he could try to accuse her of extortion.
    To extort him would involve threats. I don't make threats. Just requests.

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    So is it cool if I "request" that someone I was seeing/fucking keep doing so if she no longer wanted to because I know her boyfriend or social media accounts? Call it whatever you want it's extortion, blackmail, etc and it's pathetic to threaten or even allude to outing someone because you don't get what you want. How many dancers or escorts here would want an ex customer doing it to them when they tried to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    To extort him would involve threats. I don't make threats. Just requests.
    Your original post used the words "shook him down." That is synonymous with extortion. Look it up. You also said in your post, "I know his wife and all so he certainly didn't tell me no" which implies if he didn't give you the money... you would tell his wife. That is a threat whether you said it or implied it. Threats don't have to involve anything physical.

    I suggest you crawl back under the rock you came from (because what you did and are trying to do now is reprehensible) and be thankful you aren't already in jail for extortion.

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    Definition:
    "Extortion (also called shakedown, outwrestling, and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, individual or institution, through coercion."

    I have no issue with your post or life, my reason for mentioning this that you have walked into admitting it on an open forum. He may or may not get to the point of legally dealing with it, your posts could be used against you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grneyesnfl View Post
    Your original post used the words "shook him down." That is synonymous with extortion. Look it up. You also said in your post, "I know his wife and all so he certainly didn't tell me no" which implies if he didn't give you the money... you would tell his wife. That is a threat whether you said it or implied it. Threats don't have to involve anything physical.

    I suggest you crawl back under the rock you came from (because what you did and are trying to do now is reprehensible) and be thankful you aren't already in jail for extortion.
    Lol. Dead at a community of women engaged in various forms of iilegal and socially unacceptable activity attempting to point fingers at their own. Anyway, I included facts: I know his wife, to illustrate the depth of our relationship and how much weight my request would carry. He (and you) can take that as blackmail, extortion, etc. but once again, asking for additional help by an ex sugar daddy is not iilegal.

    Rock? lol.. did someone piss in your cereal this morning. Anyway, I've already emailed him my request and he of course, obliged. Thanks ladies! Happy Hustling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sophianz View Post
    Definition:
    "Extortion (also called shakedown, outwrestling, and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, individual or institution, through coercion."

    I have no issue with your post or life, my reason for mentioning this that you have walked into admitting it on an open forum. He may or may not get to the point of legally dealing with it, your posts could be used against you.
    Then perhaps "shake down" was the wrong term to use. Phew Thanks! Good thing I didn't use it in front of him. He could've used that against me at some point

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    Actually, Exxotica, I would say that I am happy that it worked out for you. Maybe he can become your full-time sugar daddy again Happy hustling But thank you correcting me on the fact that you never said shook down in front of him. I thought you said "shook down" in front of him.


    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    Lol. Dead at a community of women engaged in various forms of iilegal and socially unacceptable activity attempting to point fingers at their own. Anyway, I included facts: I know his wife, to illustrate the depth of our relationship and how much weight my request would carry. He (and you) can take that as blackmail, extortion, etc. but once again, asking for additional help by an ex sugar daddy is not iilegal.

    Rock? lol.. did someone piss in your cereal this morning. Anyway, I've already emailed him my request and he of course, obliged. Thanks ladies! Happy Hustling!

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    Just be careful Exxotica. Whatever you said to him, I'm sure it was enough to get the point across, even if you weren't direct. If you try to dip into that well again, he may just assume that you'll try to keep your hooks in him forever and do something drastic. A person with a lot of resources at his disposal and a serious grudge can do a lot to fuck up someone else's life, especially if she has pressure points that he can expose and exploit.

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    Just wow.All your sarcasm,manipulation and attempt to deflect doesn't negate the fact that you are WRONG.Just because we're all women in the same industry doesn't mean we have to agree/ shouldn't call someone on their fuckery.When someone is wrong there's nothing wrong with calling them out on it.

    You, yourself even said he insisted that you never come to him again for funds which means he doesn't want anymore dealings with you but because "YOU KNOW HIS WIFE" and are using that as leverage he feels he has no other choice but to oblige. Find another DADDY and leave him alone before he smartens up and decide to do something about you.Bobblehead was 100% on the money but you skipped his post right? Happy Holidays to you also
    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    Lol. Dead at a community of women engaged in various forms of iilegal and socially unacceptable activity attempting to point fingers at their own. Anyway, I included facts: I know his wife, to illustrate the depth of our relationship and how much weight my request would carry. He (and you) can take that as blackmail, extortion, etc. but once again, asking for additional help by an ex sugar daddy is not iilegal.

    Rock? lol.. did someone piss in your cereal this morning. Anyway, I've already emailed him my request and he of course, obliged. Thanks ladies! Happy Hustling!
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    It's not worth it, Exxotica. I know a dancer (in Metro Detroit) who tried to shake down her ex-SD for money or else she was going to squeal to his wife about their recently ended long-term affair. He went to the FBI and they brought criminal charges against the dancer for extortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    My previous SD who I was with for 2 years, tried to just up and disappear on me in the Spring. I shook him down for a nice lump goodbye sum after I realized his fuckery. (I know his wife and all so he certainly didn't tell me no, although insisted I never come to him again)
    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Just be careful Exxotica. Whatever you said to him, I'm sure it was enough to get the point across, even if you weren't direct. If you try to dip into that well again, he may just assume that you'll try to keep your hooks in him forever and do something drastic. A person with a lot of resources at his disposal and a serious grudge can do a lot to fuck up someone else's life, especially if she has pressure points that he can expose and exploit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Ocean View Post
    It's not worth it, Exxotica. I know a dancer (in Metro Detroit) who tried to shake down her ex-SD for money or else she was going to squeal to his wife about their recently ended long-term affair. He went to the FBI and they brought criminal charges against the dancer for extortion.
    Well, she already asked &he agreed..

    You say ,Ex, that he up & tried to disappear, then after you found him & "shook him down" (qouting you) & he agreed to provide for you, he [B]insisted you never come to him again[/B
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    Now you've asked yet again, he agreed, but I tend to go w what Rick says..he may be getting tired of it & could be taking steps to protect himself~ & taking measures that you don't come after him again.
    Good luck though


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    Don't want to pile onto Exxotica but I have to agree with everyone else. From your ex-sd's perspective you'll be coming back again and again for more money. He's very likely looking for a solution to the problem. If he's able to get you charged with extortion, it will cost money to defend yourself even if you aren't convicted. At this point the damage is done. I just hope you don't keep going back to try your luck again.

    I do agree with what was posted here:

    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...47#post2476547
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    Not to keep beating a dead horse but I think you were wrong from the minute you got that first bit of money. He has the right to cut your arrangement off any second, as do you. You sound like you were butthurt over being discarded and demanded one more chunk of cash. The fact that he gave it to you on the terms that you never contact him lets you know just how much contact he wants with you. Now, after he thought you were gone for good, you're gonna reappear and ask for more money, cuz you need it for the holidays. Let's totally ignore the fact that you're a sex worker and could, I don't know, put in a few extra shifts during peak season and make your money that way. Now, you're going to pop back up, demand money and bring up that you know his wife, totally disregarding your end of the deal to leave him alone. He will do one of three things:
    -Give you the money and badmouth you in whatever adult community your relationship put you in.
    2-Not give you the money and call you on it. Either laugh his ass off when you don't do what your threats suggest or seek retaliation when you do.
    3-Go off the deep end, making you wish you just left him alone in the first place. Not after he basically said "here's the damn money, now leave me alone", but after he made it clear your time together was done by severing contact. Wouldn't you expect him to just go away if you stopped responding to his emails and texts? Both parties in this kind of setup are supposed to treat this matter with a damn bit of discretion and respect. What you're doing is basically like if you stopped talking to him and he demanded you see him one last time or he'd out you to your boyfriend and family. You do it, telling him that it's only if he never contacts you again. Then, when the holidays come around-you know, when there's a huge focus on family and partners, the very people he threatened to expose you to, he pops the fuck back up and insists you see him again or he'd out you. You wouldn't be happy and you have way too much to lose. Plus, with the stress of the holidays, this is the last thing anyone needs. Oh, one last thing he may do. He might get extremely angry, not pay you, and out you-or seek legal action or even hurt you- before you out him, because you'd be way too busy trying to piece your life back together to even try him. I don't wish harm on anyone, but I sincerely hope you're not on here in a week asking for advice on something devastating that happened to you as a result of you going through with your plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    Lol. Dead at a community of women engaged in various forms of illegal and socially unacceptable activity attempting to point fingers at their own.
    Exxotica, to this point: we (customers and sex workers) run our various activities as legitimate businesses. Everything transacted is done quid pro quo (something for something) and all of the parties are consenting or feel like they have consent during the transaction.

    To what people were objecting, was not the sex work, but the (alleged) mob tactics.

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