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    http://www.dreamindemon.com/2015/10/...ng-babys-nose/ I have no words, what a disgusting legal system.
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    That's fucked up! Too bad we don't live in countries where they punish you eye for an eye style. Cause someone should cut off his nose and lips and ears. He looks like mr potato head on bath salts. Wtf?!?

    And I'd blame the mom too. You mean to tell me you just randomly woke up one day to your baby being abused??? I bet there was abuse going on prior to this and she was stuck in denial. She would have wised up long before this and ditched this loser her baby wouldn't have been harmed.

    Sad though for a helpless baby to suffer at the hands of their own parents. The people who are supposed to take care of their offspring. Some people really need ongoing parenting classes if not then they need to be forced infertile.
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    This just motivated me to find every petition I could online to ask for harsher sentences for crimes like these.
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    True. If you harm someone, especially a defenseless kid or baby, to the point they are disabled then you need to be under the jail.

    He had to be mentally ill or on drugs. The article claimed he was annoyed by the baby crying and that's what caused him to snap and cut her nose off. Why does America allow sociopaths to produce and raise humans for their own personal torture devices?

    I think their should be laws against bath salts or whatever drugs he was on, and better resources for people who suck at parenting. I can't believe CPS was never aware of this abuse. I think because the dumb mom covered up and it took him permanently disfiguring a beautiful baby for her to finally do something.
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    Default Re: Horrific child abuser only receives eight years :(

    wow i can't even believe this, but people who expose corruptions or steal money are given life, it shows you where priorities lay. so disgusting

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    http://www.thepetitionsite.com

    You can go on there & create your own petition^..there's also many great causes, human rights, animal rights, education.

    I wasn't going to look @ it, but yeah horrific. He'll prob get out in 3 - 5 yrs?


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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    And I'd blame the mom too. You mean to tell me you just randomly woke up one day to your baby being abused??? I bet there was abuse going on prior to this and she was stuck in denial. She would have wised up long before this and ditched this loser her baby wouldn't have been harmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoveve View Post
    This.
    I completely agree. There are a lot of sociopaths, narcissists, people who lack empathy in general out there, and their enablers should be held accountable as well. It's gotten to the point where I'm just as wary of them... because they inevitably make thoughtless decisions lacking in empathy that affect other people, too. Especially when they become parents.

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    I wouldn't call the mother an enabler or blame her. You gotta think that if this man is willing to cut off the nose of a baby, what kind of horrible things has he been doing to his wife? I mean, obviously, none of us know, but that's what I would like to think. I don't think it's too much of a stretch.

    And it's absolute shit that he got that little time. I've heard, though, that people who go to prison for hurting children have a really, really rough go of it. Lots of inmates have daughters or sons and don't take too kindly to violence towards kids. If the legal system won't give him the punishment he deserves, maybe his cellmate will

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    Quote Originally Posted by hini View Post
    You gotta think that if this man is willing to cut off the nose of a baby, what kind of horrible things has he been doing to his wife?
    Thats exactly the point. I would not be surprised if he had physically abused the wife or the baby before. I understand there is something psychologically going on with people who stay in abusive relationships. But me personally, THE first time I get physically abused by a man will be the last time. Its like if they hit you, then whats next? Burning, mutilation (like he did to the baby), death....???

    Now if he was acting totally uncharacteristic of how he usually acts then no I wouldn't see her as an enabler. But if he's abused her or the child before then yes she is an enabler.

    She had a duty to protect her baby - first sign of abuse should raise red flags like get the hell out of there. Its like people see patterns and warning signs but do nothing until its too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Thats exactly the point. I would not be surprised if he had physically abused the wife or the baby before. I understand there is something psychologically going on with people who stay in abusive relationships. But me personally, THE first time I get physically abused by a man will be the last time. Its like if they hit you, then whats next? Burning, mutilation (like he did to the baby), death....???

    Now if he was acting totally uncharacteristic of how he usually acts then no I wouldn't see her as an enabler. But if he's abused her or the child before then yes she is an enabler.

    She had a duty to protect her baby - first sign of abuse should raise red flags like get the hell out of there. Its like people see patterns and warning signs but do nothing until its too late.
    You've said exactly what I wanted to When there is a child involved, it's no longer just about how it affects the parent. They are absolutely responsible for the child, and it's completely reprehensible to keep them in an abusive situation. I have personal experience with this, and I know it's a complex situation: I certainly feel empathy for my father, as he was abused by my mother as well. But he still enabled her, and did nothing to protect my brother & I from her. He is to blame for that. I'm not trying to speak on this case, but saying that there should be more awareness about enablers' role in abuse, especially as it affects children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hini View Post
    I wouldn't call the mother an enabler or blame her. You gotta think that if this man is willing to cut off the nose of a baby, what kind of horrible things has he been doing to his wife? I mean, obviously, none of us know, but that's what I would like to think. I don't think it's too much of a stretch.

    And it's absolute shit that he got that little time. I've heard, though, that people who go to prison for hurting children have a really, really rough go of it. Lots of inmates have daughters or sons and don't take too kindly to violence towards kids. If the legal system won't give him the punishment he deserves, maybe his cellmate will
    I get your intent, but it is misguided to condone violence as punishment. It doesn't bode well for anyone (and certainly doesn't lead to justice, unless your type is of the "eye for an eye" variety.)

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    but saying that there should be more awareness about enablers' role in abuse, especially as it affects children.
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    Goddamn this is just terrible. Who needs horror movies, there are already monsters among us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    Goddamn this is just terrible. Who needs horror movies, there are already monsters among us...
    Many of the horror movies are loosely based on these types of real life situations. Like chainsaw mAssacre.
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    Yeah, I was debating whether to even post, but I see now I wasn't over reacting and this is just fucking evil. And there's a whole lot of similar stories that popped up as "recommendations for me" after reading that one
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Thats exactly the point. I would not be surprised if he had physically abused the wife or the baby before. I understand there is something psychologically going on with people who stay in abusive relationships. But me personally, THE first time I get physically abused by a man will be the last time. Its like if they hit you, then whats next? Burning, mutilation (like he did to the baby), death....???

    Now if he was acting totally uncharacteristic of how he usually acts then no I wouldn't see her as an enabler. But if he's abused her or the child before then yes she is an enabler.

    She had a duty to protect her baby - first sign of abuse should raise red flags like get the hell out of there. Its like people see patterns and warning signs but do nothing until its too late.
    You really, really, really can't know for sure that you would leave at the first sign of violence. No-one knows until they are in that position. Physical abuse is rarely inflicted alone, it is usually combined with emotional and mental abuse, manipulating and sometimes even brainwashing the victim into staying, and sometimes financial abuse so that the victim has little choice but to stay.

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    No. I know for sure. I've dated lots of guys (and a handful of assholes). A man hitting me or using unnecessary physical force is grounds for leaving ASAP. I don't care if I have ten kids and no money - I'd still leave AND press charges. And if I didn't have a gun I'd obtain one and let an abuser know he come near me I'd blow his ass to smithereens. Physical abuse? Nah. Homie don't play that.

    I mentioned earlier I understand some people have complex situations and psychologial factors that make it harder for them to leave but me personally I feel like leaving the first time a man hits you gives him the message that his actions are wrong and he cant have opportunity to physically harm you again.

    Sorry but in my book men do not get second, third, etc chances for physical abuse - one and done in my opinion.
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    I hope someone cuts off this motherfuckers nose AND his dick in prison!!! His sentence is bullshit, but hopefully in the 8 years that he is in prison, one of his fellow inmates will give him what he really deserves...child abusers aren't too popular in the prison system you know!

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    Even if he goes unharmed in prison/jail, Usually criminals end up breaking rules and prolonging their stay or fail to adjust to civilian life and end up right back in the slammer.
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    ^^That is so true. That is why all criminals who commit serious crimes need to be locked away forever in my opinion. Well with his name out there and his criminal record that will permanently haunt him, I doubt anyone will get involved with this scumbag ever again. He should be forced to get snipped so that he will never be able to breed again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna66 View Post
    You really, really, really can't know for sure that you would leave at the first sign of violence. No-one knows until they are in that position. Physical abuse is rarely inflicted alone, it is usually combined with emotional and mental abuse, manipulating and sometimes even brainwashing the victim into staying, and sometimes financial abuse so that the victim has little choice but to stay.
    I think it's obvious that anyone who is enabling abuse, like a woman who stays with someone that's abusing her children, has major emotional and psychological issues. But the person that's committing the abuse against child also obviously has major emotional and psychological issues. Extreme psychological distress doesn't get the abuser off the hook so why should it the enabler? In my mind if you choose to stay around someone that you know is abusing your child you are just as guilty.

    I always get annoyed where I see news stories where the mother's bf ended up killing her child and she's acting all devastated, it makes me think of the thief who isn't sorry they stole but is sorry about going to jail. In my head I'm like 'Don't act like you care so much now when you obviously didn't care enough to remove your child from the abusive situation in the first place.' When people commit these heinous acts against the kids I cannot believe that it's a completely isolated incident and that there were no signs that their bf was capable of doing something horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoveve View Post
    I think it's obvious that anyone who is enabling abuse, like a woman who stays with someone that's abusing her children, has major emotional and psychological issues. But the person that's committing the abuse against child also obviously has major emotional and psychological issues. Extreme psychological distress doesn't get the abuser off the hook so why should it the enabler? In my mind if you choose to stay around someone that you know is abusing your child you are just as guilty.

    I always get annoyed where I see news stories where the mother's bf ended up killing her child and she's acting all devastated, it makes me think of the thief who isn't sorry they stole but is sorry about going to jail. In my head I'm like 'Don't act like you care so much now when you obviously didn't care enough to remove your child from the abusive situation in the first place.' When people commit these heinous acts against the kids I cannot believe that it's a completely isolated incident and that there were no signs that their bf was capable of doing something horrible.
    THIS. I completely agree!

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