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    Default Got offered big $$$ for nude pics on a vanilla account.....What to do?

    Hey ladies. I'm having a real dilemma that I don't want to make a hasty decision about and need opinions, thoughts, smack in the face if this is crazy to even consider....

    So, I have always had my fair share of internet harassment and creepy anonymous message senders, especially on my (vanilla and says my real first name) Instagram. Usually from guys I befriended who got creepy and had the hots for me irl that I turned down. I thought this guy was another one of those but he's got me wondering...

    This whole situation starts with a big red flag. I got a text from my ex bf. it was a screencap of some guy who has been following me for awhile but who has no pics posted and no followers (he does follow many girls tho), offering him FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS for naked pics of me!

    I know its seriously disgusting that he would ask someone else to send pics of me behind my back. i immediately messaged the guy and asked why he would ask someone else for pics of me, and basically told him put ur $$ where ur mouth is cuz who the FUCK pays that kind of money for naked pics...And at first I was having the feeling it was this creepy guy who I was friends with til he attempted to molest me in my sleep one night. I know he thinks of me as his "one who got away" and I flat out accused this guy of being that person. I blocked his account but he messaged me from another account a few minutes later, insisting he was sorry for asking behind my back and saying he doesn't know me, hes just a guy with a lot of money who sometimes pays girls for naked pics.

    Basically I'm about 75% sure its someone who doesn't actually know me at this point, from their reaction to my accusations and the way they type. Hes still saying he will pay top dollar for photos of me, but has no way of proving his identity. Im having a really hard time weighing the risks. I dont know how I would go about selling him photos if I did decide to , without linking him to one of my camming sites (which I am considering as crazy as it is) and thus making it so that at least one person, and in a worst case scenario many ppl, can trace my cam account to my vanilla ...

    Honestly, I wouldn't even care if that creepy asshole I did know were to pay for pics or cam time with me because that's more money I'm snatching from a total asshole. Being outed would not be the worst thing in the world for me either, although I'd rather it not happen. What do u think ud do in a situation like this ? 5,000, or even a new regular willing to blow stacks on me would be sooo amazing right now. Although it's by no means written in stone that this person really means business and isn't just fucking with me...

    Anyways, all opinions are much appreciated. You girls are all so amazing and I respect y'all to death. i'll be checking back on my breaks in between camming tonight and am not making a decision till I'm really sure. xo






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    Default Re: Got offered big $$$ for nude pics on a vanilla account.....What to do?

    Any red flags are bad, i'd say dont do it.

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    Default Re: Got offered big $$$ for nude pics on a vanilla account.....What to do?

    This has SCAM written all over it. Block him and focus on *actual* customers who aren't sleazy, creepy, stalker slime balls.

    There's about .0000001% chance this weirdo is intending to pay anything (to you OR your ex) and 99.9999% chance this IS someone who knows you in real life or through camming who wants to out you, steal your info, steal your content, or who knows what else.

    I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.



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    Default Re: Got offered big $$$ for nude pics on a vanilla account.....What to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by scarlettbelle View Post
    This has SCAM written all over it. Block him and focus on *actual* customers who aren't sleazy, creepy, stalker slime balls.

    There's about .0000001% chance this weirdo is intending to pay anything (to you OR your ex) and 99.9999% chance this IS someone who knows you in real life or through camming who wants to out you, steal your info, steal your content, or who knows what else.

    I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.
    ^^ Yup, all of what she said. Plus, even if he is willing to pay for those pics, what is he gonna do with them? Just look at them and wank to them or is he gonna post them all over some ex gf site (probably, since he asked your ex bf for them) or sell them somewhere. Then there's the creeps who get off on having leverage over girls. He knows your real name and your ex boyfriend and will then have naked pics of you so he may just want to lord that over you as blackmail to get you to do shit for him.

    Who pays that much for an unknown amount of naked pics? You can get all the naked pics you want on free porn sites. Dudes like to toss around big numbers that they never intend to pay just to get your attention. This just smells all kinds of rotten to me.

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    No way to prove his identity???? No car insurance and registration, military id, old school or college id? Nothing? how about copies of his utility bills? Regardless, get the money or half of it first...paypal or something. Don't just send pics with hope of money. Or send one with your face blacked out and maybe nipples blacked out until he sends SOME money as good faith.

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    How recent is this ex-boyfriend of yours? Because this is not just sketchy--if it's a fairly old break up, the source of the initial screen caps is just as likely a culprit--if not more so--than other randos online. A random account that follows a bunch of girls isn't abnormal, but asking a vanilla instagram account girl's ex for nudes? That screams personal knowledge of you.

    Scenarios I can think of:
    1) Your ex pretending it was someone else to freak you out or stir up shit for god knows what reason.
    2) Someone who knows you in real life that has the kind of cash required to pay for these (unlikely and, as you pointed out, totally seems like a scam). This seems...odd. Do you know anyone in your life with that kind of motivation AND money? Or, at least, the ability to make it seem like they have that kind of money? You've suggested one possibility, but really consider the options here. Alternatively, someone in real life who just wants to stir up shit, as in option 1.
    3) A cam customer that somehow found you on instagram, hunted through your old pics, and somehow made contact with your ex through it all instead of you. Is your ex in your photos and tagged? Or is your ex a follower with photos of you that a stalker could go find with enough digging? If there's no connection between you and your ex on your accounts, it's pretty safe to say cam customer is unlikely just because the stalker would need to know about your relationship with your ex in some way.

    Just too many odd things happening here. I wouldn't trust this for any amount of money and who the fuck pays $5,000 for nude pictures? Porn shoots don't go for that much!

    And that this stalker looking for pics did not come directly to you already tells you he has no good intentions. You don't try to get shit through back-door means if you're legit. You just don't. Imagine if you weren't a camgirl! How the fuck would you respond to all of this, really? Not with an 'oh, yeah, I'll sell 'em to you,' most likely! A cam customer with good faith intentions of paying would contact you on a site you work. Anyone else with bad intentions takes the back-door route. Nothing good can come of this. NOTHING!

    Also, why isn't your instagram private? Requiring that followers be approved is a good safety protocol that too many sex workers don't follow. Also not using your entire real name. Just...don't do it. Bad ju-ju.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiffTiff View Post
    No way to prove his identity???? No car insurance and registration, military id, old school or college id? Nothing? how about copies of his utility bills? Regardless, get the money or half of it first...paypal or something. Don't just send pics with hope of money. Or send one with your face blacked out and maybe nipples blacked out until he sends SOME money as good faith.
    Paypal, which can be automatically charged back at anytime for adult contact? How about 'fuck no.' That's handing the scammer a way to get his cash back. Why would you give someone pics at all, black out photoshopping or not, until they've paid? Customers pay; scammers and freeloaders want 'samples.'


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    Default Re: Got offered big $$$ for nude pics on a vanilla account.....What to do?

    Issabelle, so many great points and a lot that I've already been thinking about myself. The ex is from about 2 yrs ago, and while he would definitely cut off his left nut take me back, I don't think he just made it up cuz he's not THAT shady. My original train of thought was very similar to urs. My first reaction was "Why would they choose him to ask for pics of me?" thinking that only someone who knew me IRL even knew I ever dated that guy. However, when I confronted the propositioning weirdo in question with this, they pointed out there are a few VERY OLD pics on my account of us together than imply a romantic relationship. Perhaps he thought if my relationship ended badly, he'd be more likely to sell my pics to some creep? Ick...The way the guy typed made him seem like a lonely old loser, so I had some glimmer of hope he may be legitimately stupid or rich enough to pay that much for pics of me.

    I'm 99% sure that its your option 2 (someone I know). I've had a lot of creepy stalkerish men in my life, many who hang on for YEARS harassing me, and have been offered money for similar things through the same means (instagram dm) a few times, and ur 100% right, I NEVER considered saying yes until it happened now that I'm a camgirl! That's a great point and what really seals the deal. It's really not worth it to compromise the privacy I have now, especially since I'm EXTREMELY new to camming and would prefer not to be outed in my first 2 months, lol...

    As for making my page private, I may have to soon. but I don't have my full real name listed, just my first. Do u guys think its a super big deal to make my IG private? I don't ever cross-post pics I use for camming, but I would definitely be recognizable to a custie.

    Yea, I'm not going to let this get any further. I'll keep blocking every account he makes trying to contact me again...It's hard to turn down the possibility of money, but that possibility is actually VERY small, at a great risk and I know that. Y'all are right and I knew I would probably get this kind of feedback, but still wanted to see what u ladies had to say.






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    OMG, ya gotta be careful with these social media sites. That's creepy as fuck. I HATE hearing about creepy-ass shit like this. These guys, man...

    A little off-topic, but speaking of exes...when my loser ex gave his loser friend my phone number without my permission, and his friend texted me out of the blue (seriously...like WTF are you texting me for after all these years, asswipe?), I fucking flipped out and told him to pass the word along that if he (my ex) EVER fucks around like that again with MY God damn phone number, I will hop right onto the Craigslist 'Adult' section and put his info on blast in the 'men seeking men' section...
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    A lot off topic: I freaking love the gif in your signature, missmercedes! <3 Aaliyah <3

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    Default Re: Got offered big $$$ for nude pics on a vanilla account.....What to do?

    Is making your social media private a big deal? Should you even use social media? My god, this topic should be a sticky onto itself.

    Have any of you ladies that maintain fairly unsecured social media taken a moment to truly consider the business model of the places you put your personal information up on? Wait, step back a moment, have any of you truly considered that social media is a business? Right, let's start there.

    What do businesses exist to do? Make money. They are not moral or immoral. They are amoral and exist to bring home the bacon.

    How does a free-membership site make money? Advertisements are one good option, but, realistically, very few users ever intend to click on one of those ads and conversions to sales are nearly negligible for the amount of income these sites are pulling in. Social media sites are in the Fortune 500 list. This shit ain't a charity!

    So what else do they do to make money? Sell your personal information. It's why advertisements are tailored to your browsing history on any-and-all google owned or affiliated sites and those stupid little 'Comment Via Facebook' auto-login plugins exist on basically every legitimate and wanna-be news site online, as well as why you can just 'connect via facebook' for other social media accounts or even totally unrelated sites (Khan Academy comes to mind).

    But how can they do that? Simple: whatever you put up, they own the rights to. It's why the legal system subpoenas the site and not you in criminal matters where the information you have posted might be relevant.

    Social media sites can sell everything from your information to your photos at any time. It's in the contract. Hysterically, you can't even delete your way out of this shit storm, because they maintain copyright over your shit (now their shit) even after you delete the entire account. Hell, facebook still won't allow me to do more than deactivate my old account; fuck deleting it--all I have to do is log back in by accident and the sucker is active again! It all stays on their servers. An 'artist' recently opened a very pricey gallery of high quality instagram photo prints he took from users. He didn't ask any of them first, by the way--just the site. So there are people who are having their face photos, among others, sold by some dude they've never met for big money.

    There's a reason we say there are people who are YouTube stars or Twitter stars or whatever, because those people figured out the business model and made it work for them. Always remember that. Always.

    So what's my point in all this? Social media does not exist for your benefit. It exists to make money by fulfilling the basic human need of incredible oversharing. They'll go on and on about working to keep you safer, but at the end of the day they'll do whatever it takes to make a buck off you. At the end of the day, the wider reaching their network and the more things intertwine, the more they make and that means that maintaining accounts as a sex worker is a serious danger.

    There are threads all over this board about the pitfalls: one of a private work Twitter connecting to a personal Facebook and posting nudes without the users knowledge, thereby outing her to her family and friends; several of threads of girls having friends/family either follow their work accounts OR seeing those people as 'people you may know/like to follow' options; etc., etc., and so it goes. You have no idea how many ways your systems can link to each other. Shared wi-fi connection? Probably. Same IP address? Oh yes. Using the same browser/computer? Definitely. Accidental email linkages? Been there. It. Doesn't. End.

    I would suggest to all camgirls who do not want their personal information exposed to the internet by something as mindlessly useless and preventable as this to immediately shut down their personal accounts. At worst, privatize the ever loving shit out of them, remove your last name, and make sure your photo is non-identifying while locking down your friends/followers list. At best, get rid of it altogether.

    I personally have. It's a waste of time in an age when I can just as easily fucking text someone a picture with a caption as post it up to 500 people in my 'friends list,' 95% of whom I barely know. As a camgirl, it's even more important to be vigilant. Otherwise, you leave yourself very vulnerable.


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    Lol, thank u Tsani. aaliyah was the best, she totally embodies femininity and sexiness.

    And wow, I had no idea it was so frowned upon to maintain personal social media accounts. I did read about the girl who's cam twitter account outed her on facebook. Altho it kind of seems like common sense to me now, I do think a sticky on this topic couldn't hurt.

    I don't have social media accounts for camming at the moment and am not sure if I'm likely to get them anytime soon, just because I use my personal twitter and Instagram to promote the work I do as a fashion design student and have a significant reach and connections to many people I hope to work with someday. None of these work connections would be jeapordized by them having knowledge of me camming, BTW. They are as far as I know very sex-positive people who see work like camming as legitimate. I'm not willing to get rid of these accounts right now, which may seem silly or even "useless" like u said, but I feel it would isolate me a lot and hinder the success of other things I want to do in life.

    That being said I have made my accounts private and feel silly for not thinking to do so before! I wouldnt have my personal life come crashing down if I was recognized by someone I know, but I guess I let myself forget that it goes the other way and that a creepy cam custie could recognize me! Yikes. ur very right about that. Thanks for ur advice girl.






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    I will amend my statement to point out that the shut down strategy is all my personal opinion. I detest social media after too many awful encounters and that really does color my opinion of the entire thing. The warnings are all factual to the best of my knowledge, but the suggested route of privatizing/locking down your personal items is my personal opinion. Now that that's out of the way.

    With the age of facial recognition software and reverse image searches (why hello TinEye), social media has gotten to be very frightening in terms of potential leaks. I do not have any aspirations of being a well known member of any other industry (fashion, makeup, etc.), so for me social media isn't a business tool but a personal one. In your case, it's a business tool as well and maintaining it (for business) makes very good sense.

    One thing to keep in mind is that if you want to keep yourself out there on social media for a future work endeavor, you keep yourself out there for the possibility of a cam customer recognizing you and connecting your future job to your past one. It's the name of the game, sadly, so do be prepared for the fact you have a higher risk of being outed in the future than most who are keeping a super low profile.

    So, basically, this might not be the last time you see creepy shit like this going down, but you can mitigate it to some extent by minimizing your exposure to what is necessary and identifying. When it comes to networking business connections, it's a little easier to screen but you do miss out on some connections that might add you for your public work. I don't know the fashion industry well enough to really comment in that respect.

    The higher up you go, the more people on the lower rungs want to shoot you down. It's just how success works in a world full of jealous inadequacy.


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    Default Re: Got offered big $$$ for nude pics on a vanilla account.....What to do?

    Maybe I'm in the minority but, you could just watermark the shit out of your photos, then before you give them to him, write up a written agreement where he gives you half up front. Also, in exchange, you get some of his full body naked photos as well. If it all turns out to be a scam, at least you have his junk and the written agreement to sue his balls off in court.
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    My only concern is that selling the photos in that manner may require an actual legal contract reviewed by a lawyer to be enforceable in a court. Like, maintaining copyright/non-distribution photo set ups.

    I also suspect it wouldn't stop him from privately distributing them, which you may never catch...


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    Maybe I watch too much Judge Judy but even she will accept a Jack in the Box napkin that has a written agreement, LOL.
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    Lol, I hear you on the too much Judge Judy. Mine are too many cases of 'this contract is invalid' documentary-style horror stories though, so clearly your mileage may vary.

    Like I said earlier, my biggest concern is how this potential 'customer' went about trying to get these photos in the first place. I can't see any good intentions being at the root of someone who goes to a chick's ex-boyfriend to pay him for her nudes without knowing either of them. Too fishy for my paranoia, but perhaps not for others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Issabelle View Post
    Like I said earlier, my biggest concern is how this potential 'customer' went about trying to get these photos in the first place. I can't see any good intentions being at the root of someone who goes to a chick's ex-boyfriend to pay him for her nudes without knowing either of them.
    ^^ This... Just based on how he initially went about getting the pics, I don't care how much he apologized or how much he offered, that's enough to warrant blocking him from your instagram and cutting off all contact IMO.

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    Allright, imagine yourself getting that first alert content retail message, let's say, from an MFC regular customer, with the rest of story going all the same via your camming account at the first place.

    Doesn't it look like one of those I-Give-You-10000-Bucks-For-Skype-Add-BB-Call-Me freeloaders?

    Damn, it does.

    Don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Issabelle View Post
    Hell, facebook still won't allow me to do more than deactivate my old account; fuck deleting it--all I have to do is log back in by accident and the sucker is active again! It all stays on their servers.
    Just letting you all know that you actually can delete Facebook permanently. I did it with my old account. I never knew before then either. It's because you can't find the link thru Facebook, I had to Google search it. Just type in 'delete Facebook permanently.'

    Anyway this is the link: https://facebook.com/help/224562897555674

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    I miss the anonymity of the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiffTiff View Post
    No way to prove his identity???? No car insurance and registration, military id, old school or college id? Nothing? how about copies of his utility bills? Regardless, get the money or half of it first...paypal or something. Don't just send pics with hope of money. Or send one with your face blacked out and maybe nipples blacked out until he sends SOME money as good faith.
    This is exactly what I was thinking! What form of payment did he even offer? I'm sure whatever he suggested is just a method he could use to scam you, not to mention the risk of him using someone elses credit card info to pay in the first place...that is the ONLY logical explanation I can come up with to explain why someone would be willing to pay such a crazy high amount for photos. It isn't their money, if there is any money at all!
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    Total scam. He may have contacted your ex, but doesn't mean he is legit. With all the free pics of every description why would anyone pay $5000 for pics.

    He can't verify who he is aka give the police an actual real name to track down & arrest for scamming people. So you can't do basic research on him. He will want sample pics. He wants lots on conversation with a pretty young girl for NO money at all with the promise of big money.

    Stop & block him over & over again. Especially if it is off a personal account, report him to the site for harrassment. Then tell the ex that he knows better & should have ended it with the guy and never contacted you about it at all. This is a creep trying to tempt a regular girl from a normal profile it is his game.

    He is following only young girls like you trying it on all of them too. Write each one of them & see if he trying this crap with him.

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    Thanks for all ur thoughts. I know my question may have seemed kinda crazy to some of y'all, lol. But I am glad I asked. Luckily he hasn't bothered me anymore since I blocked him when I last posted.






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