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    Default mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    What's the deal with guys always requesting Skype & asking do you take payment with Paypal? Seriously... the answer for me is NO, but anyone know why they like Skype & paypal so much besides the fact they might be trying to pull a fast one lol... Even if I did Skype shows. I ALWAYS need my money up front or I'm not budging..

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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melyssax View Post
    What's the deal with guys always requesting Skype & asking do you take payment with Paypal? Seriously... the answer for me is NO, but anyone know why they like Skype & paypal so much besides the fact they might be trying to pull a fast one lol... Even if I did Skype shows. I ALWAYS need my money up front or I'm not budging..
    I think the biggest thing is that guys know that sites take a percentage, whereas with a processor like PayPal you get 100% of the money (ignoring the obvious problems that these guys don't care about like how unsafe PayPal is for sex workers). Even with sites like Cammodel Directory, which is a payment processor for Skype shows, you get a higher % of the money, so usually girls charge less for "indie" shows. Guys know this. Example: I charge $5.99/min on Streamate where I get 35%, but charge $2.99/min on CMD where I get 75% (so they end up about the same).

    So basically I think the logic is: "If I can get her to do a Skype/PayPal show, I can get away with paying less money." Of course, if they're on MFC, they need to just buy tokens and pay you the regular way according to the site rules. But I believe that's the reasoning.

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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    Because with Paypal they can open a case and be refunded..trust me when I say they will get their money back! With the chance of obtaining personal information through your email. Once you have issued a transaction with someone your information is processed through Paypal and if the "buyer" has an issue with the order he could call customer service digging for further details.

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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    They also ask because they want your Skype ID for free. Then they can harass you on Skype. Always ask for payment up front and have blocks of time.
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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    And then there's the ones who know there are no limitations on what can be done in a Skype show.

    I call those guys "future internet boyfriends."
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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    I always find the logic rather curious when guys go on cam sites looking for cam shows with models outside of that site, because they don't want to pay the extra for the show that goes towards the site that initially brought them to the model(s) in the first place. Like, hello! Cam sites are not model directories...

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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melyssax View Post
    What's the deal with guys always requesting Skype & asking do you take payment with Paypal? Seriously... the answer for me is NO, but anyone know why they like Skype & paypal so much besides the fact they might be trying to pull a fast one lol... Even if I did Skype shows. I ALWAYS need my money up front or I'm not budging..
    ^Ditto to what the ladies above said. Those Skype/PayPal guys usually are just out for themselves, and couldn't care less about you possibly getting suspended or banned. They're trying to get a one-on-one show from you for as cheap as possible (realizing that you're likely to give him a session slightly longer than what he paid for). With a cam site private show, the session automatically ends when the guy's tokens run out, and he can't pull that "But I didn't cum yet, bb. Just a few more minutes?" shit on you. With a Skype show, the session goes on for as long as the cam girl (and member) allows it to.

    Reminds me of when I cammed on Streamate, and members would come in my chat and immediately bitch that I'm "too expensive." I'd rather not have the cheapass customers who hop from room to room comparing cam girls' rates. It's like really, dude. Are you looking for the RIGHT girl to get a show from, or are you just looking for the CHEAPEST girl to get a show from?
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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    Sometimes I feel like they just don't know wtf else to say. I will take skype if the price is right but like 5% of the guys that ask for skype don't ever even respond after asking.

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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    Thanks for the replies ladies..... figures

    Those are the top two questions that I keep getting.

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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    Scam you out of a free show, get your real details, and bug hell out of you forever on skype... yup, that pretty much covers it!
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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    The legit reason is getting the uncensored show, aka pee or period. & sometimes they seem prepared to pay more, as they should. But anyway, forget the PayPal.

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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    The other legit reason is that, if you are on MFC, if they're willing to tip tokens for somewhat a vanilla request.. its due to the picture quality on MFC being absolute shit compared to Skype.
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    I used to do skype shows for paypal (I know, I know, I don't do it anymore) and those guys fucked me over more than any other guys on cam. Beware! And yes, they do expect you to go overtime. One even had the nerve to ask for a discount.

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    I do a little Skype with a couple of guys who I have always been able to trust. My Skype rate is the same rate as on SM and I reject everyone who just tries to add me to their Skype. Im very leary of Skype because of the stuff the other ladies here have mentioned here.

    But Sometimes guys have an amount owing on the Cam sites like MFC or SM or sometimes they are blocked because maybe they refunded claimed fraud. Whatever the reason they cant acutally purchase the credits or tokens to do a show so they want to take you to Skype. I steer clear of anyone who asks me through SM if I do Skype.

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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    It is because they don't give a fuck about us. If they weren't trying to scam you they would just pay where they found you or a payment type of your preference. Love when they try to pull the 'I just want you to keep all the money' bullshit. They have a HARD understanding that the word "NO" is a complete sentence, LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixiepower329 View Post
    The other legit reason is that, if you are on MFC, if they're willing to tip tokens for somewhat a vanilla request.. its due to the picture quality on MFC being absolute shit compared to Skype.
    Not to mention the shitty sound on c2c and echo/feedback/crap...
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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    There are lots of reasons, none of them good.

    #1 is of course, they want to scam you.

    #2 They want to get your info (through paypal or by getting you IP address through Skype)

    #3 They want a cheap or discounted show

    #4 Their fetish isn't allowed on regular cam sites (pee/poo/vomit/blackmail/incest/ageplay/whatever) and think you'll be open to breaking rules on Skype

    #5 They're trying to hide their cam show purchases from their wife and apparently don't realize that prepaid Visa cards are a thing

    I get #5 as an excuse all the damn time, and I have a feeling it's usually BS.

    And of course...

    #6 They want to have 100% of your attention for free and don't intend to buy anything from you EVER

    Now don't get me wrong, there is tons of money to be made on Skype. But I would only take payment through a cam site or indy site (CMD, LCMS, etc). Forget Paypal and giftcards. It's not worth the headache.


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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    official version is : skype has better quality picture but the real reason is :
    -cause they can ask about and make you or hope to make you do things that would get them in trouble on regular site (some of it is illegal)
    - cause they can abuse you and make you feel awful and get away with it
    - cause they are underage
    -cause they are assholes
    -cause they can get a refund
    -cause they can scam you
    -cause they want your skype id and anytime you online they jerk off/contact you
    -cause they want to pay less
    cause it gives them a sense of control now they will know when you online
    -cause they want to pay less
    - cause they have no regard for the site that worked hard to get traffic and get you on it
    -cause they selfish
    -cause they have fake gift cards for you
    -cause they can easily record the video and sell it or upload it
    -cause they can find out your address from ip and harass you with the recorded video
    - cause they try to make you into sort of their internet girlfriend available on skype etc (even if only in his imagination- still worth that feeling)
    -cause they hope to beg you for free sessions in the future whenever you online
    -cause they want to see you on skype just for a second to see if your outfit is all right and then they will pay you (but that never happens)
    - cause it gives them extra attention at no addittional cost
    -cause it makes them feel important like you there to see them is not adult site they your boyfriend anyone does skype...
    -cause they can come up with weird forms of payment : above one is mentioned fake gift card but could also be : wire transfer, bitcoin, bullshit, paypal, pretending to purchase an item from your wish list, future huge payment when he gets his money or an offer to design your website or help you get traffic to your room...
    etc...
    list goes on and not much of it benefits YOU
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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    When you are on a token based site it takes a while to build up a crowd, when you log off to deal with a skype show. You lose momentum, plus all the spy tokens you could have gotten if they took you private.
    Seems lots of them want to do a skype show when tips are rolling in & I have 500 to 1500 guys in my cam room on CB. As if I'm going to log off from CURRENT paying members & lose the great mojo I"ve worked so hard to get going.

    Selfish men who demand that kind of attention from me have no place in my life.

    Take inot account if you do things that are condsidered illegal by cam sites that these skype shows can be recorded & put up all over the web. Some guys do it and then resell them for money, cutting you out of the profits.

    As for the explaination that they can't buy more tokens on a cam site due to being blocked from doing it due to chargeback despute. Guess what????? They will do a charge back to you to with paypal eventually.

    Do it once and always in the future they & others who see you are up for it will pester you when making money on the cam site.. Demanding you log off for the few dollars from them. If you are making say $50 to $500 in an hour on a cam site, log off to make $20. They don't care that you took the financial hit.

    Personally, I find great customers don't ask you to go off site or to take pay pal. But I have friends that bank doing the paypal/skype thing, they never listen to me. It just isn't my hustle.

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    Default Re: mWhy not just buy tokens & get a private session?

    I agree with pretty much all of the stuff said above, but I want to point out that not ALL guys that like Skype are out to get you. I love being an indy Skype model, and I have a blog post on my website about why Skype shows are better for customers. Some of the legit reasons are: it can be cheaper without the model losing money, better picture and audio quality in both directions (some guys love being seen), don't have to follow site rules if the model is open to taboo/semi-taboo stuff, you know how many minutes you're getting at the start, so the model doesn't have the same motivation to stall to keep the guy in private longer, and Skype works beautifully on smart phones and tablets, whereas almost all cam sites are clunky in those formats.


    Having said that, I wouldn't trust any guy that approaches you about Skype on one of your cam sites.* The questionable motivations are 99.5% true in those cases. The other 0.5% of the time, the guy is a moron that can't figure out to google you, and that isn't going to turn out well. I have some very good, respectful, fun Skype clients that initially found me on a big box cam site, but they NEVER mentioned it at all on the cam site. They found me offsite by googling my cam name, and then they approached me the same way my indy clients do.
    *I'm not sure if that's true on MFC, since selling Skype shows seems to be a common thing there. But for reasons of clearing out your room, I'd only do it by appointment outside of your normal MFC cam time, and I wouldn't go lower than 50 tokens per minute at the bare minimum.

    Secondly, 95% of the time, a guy on Skype that proposes paypal, amazon, or anything similar shouldn't be trusted, and if he's asking on a cam site, it's 100% untrustworthy. On Skype, I give the benefit of the doubt the very first time it comes up, because some guys are legitimately new to Skype camming, and they simply have no idea that there are better payment options. However, if the guy balks AT ALL when I suggest paying on LCMS, I know he's up to no good.


    TL,DR: Not all guys that like Skype are trying to rip you off, but if they ask about it on your cam site, or aren't completely cooperative about paying you the way (and amount) that you want, assume they are trying to scam you.
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