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    How do you address someone who wants to have lunch or chill outside of the club ? I pulled all of the .. I would have to take off of work yadda yadda and then he straight out said that he wants to meet me outside of work how can I say no without losing a potential regular ?

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    He's not going to be a potential regular.
    "There are different kinds of darkness. There is darkness that frightens, the darkness that soothes, the darkness that is restful. There is the darkness of lovers, and the darkness of assassins. It becomes what the bearer wishes it to be, needs it to be. It is not wholly bad or good."
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    Tell him you don't have time to do anything before work. If he asks you to take off, tell him you can't. If he asks why...bc you have bills to pay.

    If you strongly feel like he'll compensate you for your time, bring up the compensation and aim high(like your best night at work).That's if he wants to meet up for a simple dinner/shopping date....and that's it!

    Your time is worth it, and not free. Don't be afraid to let these guys know that. You have nothing to lose.

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    Check out the Hustle Hut section..


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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    Check out the Hustle Hut section..

    I saw you wrote this on both of my posts, I do always try to look things up first but it can be hard to find what you are looking for especially when you are on a phone

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    She was trying to help you, not scold you IMO. But, if the customer seems to be asking you at this point and you just need to be firm; unless you would actually consider seeing him for money. I do not mean escorting, I mean hanging out. No means no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellaganoosh View Post
    I saw you wrote this on both of my posts, I do always try to look things up first but it can be hard to find what you are looking for especially when you are on a phone
    Don't make excuses for why you can't go OTC. Tell him very clearly that you are not comfortable meeting customers outside of the club and if he continues to push for it cut your losses and move on. Even if you aren't sleeping with them if you meet for lunch it'll all be downhill from there.
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    "I'd love to see where our relationship goes here, in the club, before I make that decision. I'd love to get to know you here, where I feel totally safe. Is that okay with you?"

    If they keep pushing for OTC, tell them that you have a personal policy against meeting people outside of the club. No need to make any excuses beyond that. "It's a personal thing for me. But I'd really, really love to keep spending time with you here...I have so much fun with you!"

    I've started getting better at sprinkling my conversations with keywords that help get it in their heads that the strip club is NOT the real world. I refer to their "playground," "fantasy land," etc. This helps stave off questions about meeting you OTC.

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    I hate to break it to you, but these types of men who specifically seek OTC activity do not stick around for long; if he sees that you aren't going to give him what he wants, or that you are leading him on, he'll just stop seeing you all together.

    So just enjoy him while you can for however much longer he comes in to see you (probably not much longer if you are certain you dont want to see him outside). Just enjoy his money at the club while it lasts and get as much out of him as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellaganoosh View Post
    How do you address someone who wants to have lunch or chill outside of the club ? I pulled all of the .. I would have to take off of work yadda yadda and then he straight out said that he wants to meet me outside of work how can I say no without losing a potential regular ?
    Hell no. That's what you tell him. 99.9% of the time it's a waste of time that you could be making money. In the off chance he is willing to still pay for your time if you meet him, there's a 99.9% chance he will not spend money on you in the club again.

    There's plenty of regulars out there and you can't be afraid to lose one if they are pushing you past your boundaries, getting cheap, or getting to their expiration date.
    “Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”

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    All of the advice here is solid. As Miss.a.p. touched on, most regulars have an expiration date. They fall in love with you, become dedicated (more or less, ymmv) to you, come in to see you, give you their money... etc. etc. etc. And then they start to decay, and then they expire. It happens. Most regulars will only be regular temporarily. Very rarely will you have a regular last months and years. It's definitely better to treat them like a rotating door. If they *do* last for the long term, yay! If not, you have others to fall back on. The loss of a regular when he starts to go down this road stops being noteworthy pretty fast. Just remember to constantly be cultivating new regulars, even while your current ones are going strong. Most of them will expire at some point, some faster than others, but there will always be more waiting to replace them. There's always more money to be made from someone else.

    IF you are potentially open to the idea of meeting someone outside the club, make sure to make it a very public place where people are likely to give a damn if they see something fishy/skeevy going on. Maybe have a friend nearby that you can call/that can keep an eye on the situation from a distance. Set a time limit/have an out/excuse to leave after so long. Make sure he compensates you really well. As Vyanka suggested, your best shift should be a good marker.

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    i usta just say that sweet i would like that but my girl friend would not like that we can still see each outher at the club....

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    Does he spend on you ITC? If he is a good spender in the club, see how long you can drag that relationship on. Set a date, then cancel the night before because of "cramps" or something. Keep trying to pull him back into the club as much as possible.

    If he is a non-spender, then tell him that your time is valuable and he has done nothing to show you that he values your time. Then lay out a price to meet OTC for lunch only. My rate is $250/hr. No nudity, payment up front at the time of meeting sent via PayPal. No refunds.

    If he is serious, he'll either pay or he'll negotiate the rate (this is a good sign. That means he's considering your offer).

    If he gets all butt-hurt, then you have your answer: he doesn't understand the nature of our business.

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    I've also had luck with mildly making fun of the customer for pressuring us to have a "serious relationship" so soon. "We're still getting to know each other...I wanna keep having FUN with you in our little fantasy land! Why so seeeeerious?!" ::giggle::

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