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    Mind Blowing BBW help please

    Hi

    I have run a search but cant find what I am looking for.
    I am bbw so I dont expect to make as much as the stunning alternative models on SM.

    I get tons of traffic. I had 14 guys last night in the room for about an hour but I just cant get them in pay chat.

    I wiggled and groped so much I went dizzy. I ended up with $10 for a few brief shows. But other than a quick 2 min show I am not making enough to cover the lube.

    Other bbws are smashing them through but I just cant get them to pay. They just sit there all night watching and chatting with me.

    I am getting great listings. I was even on first page last night in the listings. But it seams they all want gold shows which I cant offer as I cant meet the criteria as no one is paying.

    Is it because I was being listed against stunning girls and I cant compete?

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    Stop wiggling and groping yourself for free! Guys can get off just by watching you act all sexually. Just entice them, lay provocatively, look sensually into the camera, every once in awhile run a finger briefly over your boob or hips. Get their blood pumping but then leave them hanging, wanting MORE but not getting shit unless they pay. If you keep moving sexily, they are continually getting stimulated, so they don't feel the need to go private.

    14 guys in your room is great, I rarely get more than 8-10 at a time, so you're obviously super attractive and popular! But these 14 guys are practically getting a free show, with a few taking you private for 2 mins just to get themselves over the edge after stroking off to your sexy movements for free for the past half hour. Don't let them do that.



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    also many bbws do better than non bbws, dont put up a barrier that isnt there :p


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    Yeah you are right. I didnt mean it to sound like a wall. Just the other girls are sexy as hell.

    I will try tonight as that might be an issue and I am not super attractive. I just try and keep them talking and if I just lay there no one stays on with me. And my cyber stalker just sits there all night.

    I will try an 8hr tonight see if I cant get the hang of getting them into private. just feel I am wasting the listing of being front page if I cant progress from it to start gold shows as thats what most seam to want but I am only on day 3

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    Do not put ur hopes on Gold Shows cause they dont work that great anymore, who asks for gold shows is a cheap ass and try to pull ur leg simply, when u'll have ur GS's enabled eventually they will still stay there & watch & not tip.
    Even popular models have a hard time with GS's these days, it made me sad to watch somebody get wet eyes on cam just from trying to convince the cheapos to tip, that's something u dont wanna experience i am sure, to beg for a few $$$ tip.

    I hope and wish for u to find ur way with camming selling privates & eventually GS's later on if u can find ur ways with them, give these guys as less as possible in freechat & keep ur energy & performance for paid chat like the other members said above.
    I do nothing in free, i dont move, i dont dance, i dont tease, i sit & type, smile, laugh, touch my clothed body sometimes but never offer anything sexual until they come pvt/ excl. or tip for flashes.
    This is my style & the way i am comfy camming, others might do things different.
    I am a small BBW myself & average looking but i ask for money from these guys & some of them pay me
    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenasecret View Post
    Yeah you are right. I didnt mean it to sound like a wall. Just the other girls are sexy as hell.
    And so are you, as am I.

    Quote Originally Posted by Selenasecret View Post
    I will try tonight as that might be an issue and I am not super attractive. I just try and keep them talking and if I just lay there no one stays on with me. And my cyber stalker just sits there all night.
    BAN HIM! Use that Block feature, you won't regret it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Selenasecret View Post
    I will try an 8hr tonight see if I cant get the hang of getting them into private. just feel I am wasting the listing of being front page if I cant progress from it to start gold shows as thats what most seam to want but I am only on day 3
    They're cheap asses, that's why they want Gold shows. Stop showing them the goods in freechat (charge a tip for EVERY request - that will make the freeloaders leave and the genuine guys pay up or take you paid), keep the wiggling to a minimum (heck, I don't even stand up without payment), make yourself FEEL confident and that will translate onto the screen, never apologise for being a BBW or unnattractive or not sexy (you might not be saying these things out loud, but body language and they way you say things will show your customers that you don't feel worth it), and don't compare yourself to the slimmer ladies.

    I am size 28 (UK) and weigh 280 pounds (so an extra large BBW, I used to be SSBBW when I first started), and I don't seem to be having problems converting. The only thing stopping me earning more money is my own laziness!

    Good luck Oh, and read the BBW thread that's on here somewhere.

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    To be fair the stalker guy gives me someone to chat with while waiting for anyone to come in chat. he never complains if I ignore him.

    These are some good points. Takes my husband full on to get there. I didnt think these guys were already pretty much there before private.

    I just need to work out the balance between keeping them interested and needing more. I learnt how to deal with free requests last night with "you buy a girl a drink for something what makes you think this is any different"

    Thanks girls ;-) I have alot to learn and master

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    Hon, I'm sorry you've internalised all the bullshit about needing to be skinny to be attractive. Those guys aren't in your chat because they'd rather be with a skinny girl, but oh well, you'll do. They're there because you, specifically, are their type.

    The biggest favour you could do yourself right now is learn as much as you can about BBW fetish, so you know what makes these guys weak at the knees. (A brief summary: they love a fat roll - so your belly, back rolls, basically anything that's flabby. Yep, that's right, all the parts we were told to be ashamed of.) And then you just cover those bits while you're in free chat, and make them pay to see as much as a teeniest jiggle.

    Gold shows aren't all that if you're a niche performer. They're good for practising your show, because the more shows you do, the better you'll be at your job. But they're not where the vast majority of your pay is going to come from, to start with.

    Don't worry, you've got this!

    Slothie xx
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    ^^^ Yes, just like Slothie says, GS's dont even work with niches, i forgot to add this piece of very important info, i work a niche myself & GS's dont work for me cause in my case everyone likes different things in my show. xx

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    Thanks hun xx.

    Hell if they all just went pvt for 2 min I would have made loads lol.

    Yeah I guess I felt a bit worthless with my pic next to all the traditionally sexy personnas.

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    NEVER feel worthless, confidence is key. I am a BBW and just about to get back on SM. When I was on there before this was the site I did best on. I stopped camming for various reasons and I am getting back into it and even though I hear traffic is different than 2 years ago I still imagine I will do better here than on token sites. Own who you are. Feel good about what you are putting on display and they will come

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenasecret View Post
    Thanks hun xx.

    Hell if they all just went pvt for 2 min I would have made loads lol.

    Yeah I guess I felt a bit worthless with my pic next to all the traditionally sexy personnas.
    I agree with LustyLark - never feel worthless. Apart from making yourself feel awful about yourself, this will transfer to your cam room and you will attract worthless men.

    Before going on cam, think Loreal: "because I'm worth it"

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    Lady, these freeloading assholes are completely tolerant.
    They are greedy to spend on ANYONE of us.

    Appearance is not the issue, but your confidence, your sales skills, your luck and this whole magic successful ones have.

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    Heres to better luck tonight ladies xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenasecret View Post
    Heres to better luck tonight ladies xx
    See you there

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    Well I booted off anyone who asked for anything for Free. I deliberately set a tit flash at 1gold. So I could say cant even afford to buy a girl a drink. I only dont do anything in the first 30 seconds so at least I get a few cents from peekers.

    But it was so slow last night. I only managed $15 and just as I went to log off after 8hrs a guy came in told me what they want and went private. It was just getting to the dildo and another guy came in and the guy bolted. 8 hrs for a peeker to mess it up.

    I had about 7 who came on and said they would rather wait until payday and have a block but this is the Internet.

    Things are getting easier thanks to your advice. I just hope Saturdays are slow nights. Or I am wondering if its because I wear a mask that only comes off in exclusive.

    I might have a chat with my husband and let him know what I have been doing as he doesnt know and let him watch the videos as I have a few.

    Less freeloaders. A few promises and a few shows. but I didnt give them shit for free.

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    Is it worth uploading a video to pornhub or hamster? Has this helpped anyone get more shows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenasecret View Post
    Well I booted off anyone who asked for anything for Free. I deliberately set a tit flash at 1gold. So I could say cant even afford to buy a girl a drink. I only dont do anything in the first 30 seconds so at least I get a few cents from peekers.

    But it was so slow last night. I only managed $15 and just as I went to log off after 8hrs a guy came in told me what they want and went private. It was just getting to the dildo and another guy came in and the guy bolted. 8 hrs for a peeker to mess it up.

    I had about 7 who came on and said they would rather wait until payday and have a block but this is the Internet.

    Things are getting easier thanks to your advice. I just hope Saturdays are slow nights. Or I am wondering if its because I wear a mask that only comes off in exclusive.

    I might have a chat with my husband and let him know what I have been doing as he doesnt know and let him watch the videos as I have a few.

    Less freeloaders. A few promises and a few shows. but I didnt give them shit for free.
    Personally 1GOLD for a tit flash is to low, remember you only get 35cents of that dollar. I would not upload a video to any free porn site if you want to do clips check out clips4sale.com or manyvids.com. Also you use your cammodel link and edit it into your videos, if someone signs up with it you get a % of everything they spend. SM for me is personally slow most nights I don't do that great on there other than my regulars, try branching out and try other sites as well. Maybe you are like me and will do better on token based sites, I am a bbw and when I first started I didnt have the confidence and I let that show through, you have to act like you know you are the hottest thing to ever walk the face of this earth, if you dont believe you are worth the money the guys are going to pick up on that and not pay.
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    I only set it low to try and filter out the beggers as lets face it less than a drink in a pub. The rates for private are only $2.38 and exclusive $3. Maybe I am going to cheap as I would rather have regular volume than 1 decent show a week.

    As I am still new I only have a 4 star rate. So I wonder if that is a factor. I only had 1 rating from a show which was 5 star the others although they thank me for the show havent left a rating. No issues with getting favourite tho and the ones who have had a 2 min private do cone back after for a chat.

    I got the confidence and I am reading through the posts. I let my husband watch my show videos as a way to break it to him. And he really enjoyed them. He was more upset I hadnt asked him for help with the tech side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenasecret View Post
    I only set it low to try and filter out the beggers as lets face it less than a drink in a pub. The rates for private are only $2.38 and exclusive $3. Maybe I am going to cheap as I would rather have regular volume than 1 decent show a week.

    As I am still new I only have a 4 star rate. So I wonder if that is a factor. I only had 1 rating from a show which was 5 star the others although they thank me for the show havent left a rating. No issues with getting favourite tho and the ones who have had a 2 min private do cone back after for a chat.

    I got the confidence and I am reading through the posts. I let my husband watch my show videos as a way to break it to him. And he really enjoyed them. He was more upset I hadnt asked him for help with the tech side.
    Your rates are WAY too cheap. That's probably WHY you are getting the beggars and freeloaders. You need to raise those rates and BELIEVE in yourself. You will get LOADS more shows than one a week! I've only been online a couple of hours so far today, and have already done 6 shows at $5.99 a minute. Get that confidence up, girl! And YAY to the husband who is supporting you, that's a massive step forward. Now go get that cash!

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    Yeah hubbie was great about it. Also he says help and information works both ways and if u helpped me he has no problem offering advice on hardware and software to keep the machines running full speed.

    I am taking a break today but start again tomorrow night as hubbie is going through all the settings he knows in windows and putting parts from his games machine into mine. He thinks he can make it boot up in less than 4 seconds.......

    Good point on the prices. I am a little worried about going to high but I will give it a try tomorrow. I did think it would have worked the other way around that the higher prices would get more beggers and freeloaders.

    Still waiting to have my first orgasum on cam but a reg who comes in everyday says its his when he gets paid he has taken a 15min block out before and was my first show.

    Stalker guy fixed his speakers last night. So by chatting with him also ramped up guys asking questions.

    Thank you so much for your help. When I get to actually play its alot of fun. Its just the waiting and timewasters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenasecret View Post
    When I get to actually play its alot of fun. Its just the waiting and timewasters.
    Yep. Patience and confidence, you need both in abundance to do this job

    EDIT: loving the "husband doesn't know, cum see what he's missing out on" angle you've got going on your profile

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    Yeah. He may know but not what we are getting upto ;-)

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    1 GOLD is definitely too little for a flash same like the prices for pvt/excl, considering u a native english speaker & british u should charge more, at least $4-5/min for pvt & higher for excl, if u have a nice british accent the non-brits (and even some of ur nationals) will adore u, they love the accent.

    Now is important what clientele u build up, low fees will bring u low level spenders so dont be afraid to raise ur fees even if u new, if they comment u can tell u new on this site but in cam business for a good while *wink*, they dont know the truth LOL..

    About the mask, do u really need it? i am not a fan, i consider it takes soo much away from the person's charm, maybe some models can still do well wearing mask or hiding face but i always considered a killer hot body is needed in order to compensate the 'missing face' or to have something extraordinary to work with (an extremely hairy pussy for example? ); this is my personal opinion, just for the record.

    I personally would not pay a model who hides face, to me face means a lot, eyes are the soul mirror & face together with eyes shows the emotion; maybe the guys dont mind tho cause they built different lol, just wanted to give input about the mask aspect.

    In rest, good luck & keep trying, eventually try other sites too if u feel SM is not working for you, again as a british girl i suggest Adultwork. Token sites? Not sure how BBW friendly are they honestly, i know i did not find my way on MFC and CB (Myfreecams and Chaturbate) plus i dont like the style, i am old school and feel comfy camming on private based sites.

    xxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatM View Post
    1 GOLD is definitely too little for a flash same like the prices for pvt/excl, considering u a native english speaker & british u should charge more, at least $4-5/min for pvt & higher for excl, if u have a nice british accent the non-brits (and even some of ur nationals) will adore u, they love the accent.
    ....
    In rest, good luck & keep trying, eventually try other sites too if u feel SM is not working for you, again as a british girl i suggest Adultwork. Token sites? Not sure how BBW friendly are they honestly, i know i did not find my way on MFC and CB (Myfreecams and Chaturbate) plus i dont like the style, i am old school and feel comfy camming on private based sites.

    xxx
    I'm a BBW and I work both SM and AW, and I totally agree that you would benefit from raising your prices. My private is $4.49, and my exclusive is $5.99 and definitely get more than one show a week. In fact, I do better now as an alt looking BBW, than I ever did as a "vanilla" looking in-betweeny girl. (when I started camming I was a UK size 10-12, I'm now about an 18-20)

    As Sloth says, guys who are into BBW's are really into all the bits society tells us are the least sexy - most of my regulars LOVE my big belly and the way it hangs down - so make sure you keep those rolls and folds covered up unless someone is paying for them!

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