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    Dizzy Been stripping for 6 months but finding it hard to sell advice please

    So fairly new to the game have no issue with dancing or the pole and I am confident but find it hard to direct the convo to the dance and then close the deal please help example conversations would be great and types of approach x

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    Default Re: Been stripping for 6 months but finding it hard to sell advice please

    If you don't ask the customer for a dance, he'll think you don't like him. In fact, it's kind of weird to NOT ask them for dances.

    Just remember, the answer to an unasked question is always no.

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    Default Re: Been stripping for 6 months but finding it hard to sell advice please

    Study hustle hut! No matter how far along you are some info you should never stop freshing up on

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    Default Re: Been stripping for 6 months but finding it hard to sell advice please

    While not 100% relevant to your question, this post was fairly eye-opening for me. I second Tourdefranzia. Approaching and cutting to the chase becomes infinitely easier when you shift your thinking around. Instead of thinking about how you want them to go for a dance and worrying about being rejected, think about how they're here because they want some erotic female attention, and they're waiting for someone to come up and take them away to fantasy land. For all you know, you might be the first girl to come up to them all night, or the first girl they like. Sitting down and chatting with them is a good first step, but they're there because they want to feel sexy or rich or powerful -- basically, they want an ego boost. If you just chat with them indefinitely, it can send the message that you don't think they have enough money to be worth even asking for dances, or that you don't think they're dance material -- the stripper equivalent of "friendzoning," even though it's literally your job to be the ultimate fantasy. For all you know, he's one of the dudes who religiously believes in the friendzone and blames that for his luck with the ladies, so he comes into the club as a last ditch attempt at *something,* but even here, the dancers would rather have a friendly chat with him and maybe drink with him than give him any sort of erotic anything. Worst case scenario, you ask, he says no, and you move on to the next guy, no/limited time wasted.

    As for example conversations, corny transitions work like a charm. I've seen dancers charm customers who were hardcore in the mode of "I don't do dances, I'm just here for/with ____" into getting at least one. As HH always suggests, take anything you guys are talking about/that he says -- ANYTHING -- and turn it around to dances somehow. It'll either be corny or smooth. In either case, the customer can obviously still say no, but when you open the door up for corny instead of always trying to be smooth, you open the door to a lot more opportunities. A simple go to starter could be something like asking them how they are, and no matter what they say, offer to make them feel even better. Be punny, be cheesy, be someone who is drop dead gorgeous but still obviously doesn't take themselves too seriously. Have a human element somewhere in the fantasy to make you seem within their reach.

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    Default Re: Been stripping for 6 months but finding it hard to sell advice please

    Like another girl mentioned, check out Hustle Hut. There's some golden advice there. A thread of one liners that I particularly liked because I'm not a long hustle type girl. Keep in mind the guys are expecting to be asked for dances. Even if it comes out awkward it's better to ask for a dance than to not ask at all.

    Candycups is right about the corny lines thing, I say some things I can barely keep a straight face for they're so cheesy. My friend's go-to line in Vegas is "Hey, wanna see my REAL boobs?"

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    It took me years to start internalizing and utilizing Hustle Hut's advice. Even though I'd read the threads and go into the club with some ideas, it took me a long time to really start 'getting it.' After dancing off and on for nearly ten years, I only now feel like I'm really hitting my groove. But I started out in this industry as a severe introvert with no social skills, so...

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    Here's what I did. Not original advice, some kind soul shared it with me back in the day. During stage dances, remember every custy who came up and tipped. After your dance, go to each one and thank them. When thanking them, ask them if they liked your dance and if they'd like a VIP or couch or whatever your club calls it. You'll be amazed at how many VIPs you get. After you finish that custy, go back out on the floor and continue making the rounds of all the custies who tipped you on stage. Keep asking for VIPs. Before long, you'll be making bank. Once you have thanked and asked every tipper for a VIP, if it's not your turn on stage, start going around to all the new custies and the ones who didn't tip.

    Once you have the quick thank and ask down. Then work on your conversational skills. Have a few topics, maybe read Sports Illustrated or your local paper's sport's page. You don't need a lot of knowledge about sports, just enough to start up a conversation. They custy will normally carry the conversation. After sports, the second most important thing to a custy is himself. So if you can't or don't connect on sports, ask about himself. That's probably enough conversation starter material to last a life time of stripping. I do basically the same thing in business. I do know my company's products and capabilities very well. But, I strike up conversations with potential customers the same way I did stripping. I usually start with SI or the sports page. I know almost nothing about Cricket. But, I have this customer who is from India and lives and dies by the Indian National Cricket team's performance. Knowing that, If I am scheduled to see him over something, I'll check out how India is doing in Cricket. Ask one question about Cricket and he talks non-stop. I get a word in edgewise to ask for an order, which he always gives and then I listen to him politely for a few more minutes go on about Cricket. Then I'm done.

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    Default Re: Been stripping for 6 months but finding it hard to sell advice please

    After I've been talking to them a little bit and I'm ready to ask them if they want a dance. I start to ask some generalized questions that I feel they will likely say yes to. Getting people in the habit of saying "yes" is a sales technique and you can use it to get a dance. So I'll ask some questions you can almost guarantee they will say yes to after we've been talking a bit such as: "so are you enjoying it here so far?" "is everything good so far?" "Are you having a good time/having fun?" <- (making sure that's the second to last question) followed then by "would you like to have a little more fun?" to move into the sale.

    Every once in awhile some guy is trying to be a downer or being drunk and obnoxious so when I ask them the second to last question "are you having fun?" they will say something like "no i'm bored" in which case I will reply instead with "aw well why don't we have some fun then?!"
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    Default Re: Been stripping for 6 months but finding it hard to sell advice please

    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    It took me years to start internalizing and utilizing Hustle Hut's advice. Even though I'd read the threads and go into the club with some ideas, it took me a long time to really start 'getting it.' After dancing off and on for nearly ten years, I only now feel like I'm really hitting my groove. But I started out in this industry as a severe introvert with no social skills, so...
    Wow,we're clones. I was going to say that after 9-10 years off & on I'm finally to the point where i get "it". Lol. I'm also an introvert and basically had no social skills. Idk,i feel socially awkward.


    I feel so silly & dumb now thinking how much I could've banked back then. Tsk tsk,you learn from your mistakes. OP,just read HH consistently! Even go back from yearssss ago and read,read....read. Really helped me.

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    Default Re: Been stripping for 6 months but finding it hard to sell advice please

    Tonnnss of advice in Hustle Hut, but a few quick points:

    Offer dances to absolutely everyone in the club. The worst thing that can happen is them declining. A few weeks ago I walked up to a guy, said, "Hey we should go for a dance" and he bought an hour. He informed me that he'll basically go with the first girl that asks him after he finishes the set number of drinks he has, and always buys the last hour of the night. Imagine missing out on that sale by not bothering to say hi.

    Don't spend more than a couple songs with any customer, and keep pushing the convo back to dances, even if the transition is awkward at first. I use "speaking of good times..." or something like, "Right on. Well, I'm sure you're ready to get me naked" basically constantly.

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