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    During my last shift, I was chatting to a customer about my future goals, which include landscape design. He told me that he has a huge yard and would love help for spring planting. I've never considered meeting anyone outside the club before, but this is what I love doing, and he said we would discuss compensation for this tomorrow.

    I feel really weird having someone pay me for this, as I'm not graduated yet, and I'm sure he could hire someone with more experience but obviously he is more interested in the company. I want to be as professional as possible, and really implement some skills and techniques that I've learned throughout school. I just have no idea how much to ask for. I've never considered meeting someone OTC but I love garden design and it would be cool to actually do it for a client!

    How do you consider price when you meet someone OTC? I want to ask for a fairly steep amount because there is a lot of planning and hard that go into my projects, but also I want to milk the fact that I am a beautiful work of art myself. Not only is having your home's landscape designed by me a priceless commodity, so is my company. lol

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    There's a 99% chance he's just using the landscaping as an excuse to get you to see you, not only OTC, but in his very own home to boot. Put your passion for landscaping aside and tread very carefully. If this customer was just asking to see you OTC for dinner or shopping, would you still go for it? If not, I wouldn't even bother entertaining the idea.

    Given that you've posted this in the Newbie Board, I'm guessing you haven't been dancing for this customer for a very long time. Once you see a customer OTC, you can't undo it. While some will continue to spend ITC, it's not unusual for that spending to dwindle or for them to stop coming to see you ITC at all. Are you ready to potentially lose him as a regular stream of income?

    Beyond that -- meeting a customer OTC in their house is a terrible idea, especially for the first time! Shopping and meals are common OTC "dates" because they take place in public with lots of people around. Going to a stranger's house, particularly one who knows you in the context of having you naked in his lap, is asking for trouble. You don't know if he's unstable, violent, obsessed with you, etc., etc., and it's much harder to extricate yourself from a bad situation when you're literally in the lion's den.

    If you go through with "helping this customer with his landscaping," please at least do it in public. There is no reason for you to spend time at his house when he can take photos of the garden, give you measurements, etc. Just don't be surprised if you don't end up actually discussing his garden very much.

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    Default Re: Getting Paid for OTC

    On pricing, take your best day at the club and add it to whatever the average going first meeting/planning rate is for landscapers in your area is. He probably doesn't actually want any landscaping done at all, so researching that could be a waste of time in your part, but if this is a chance you want to take, be prepared. Offer an alternative that's just a date somewhere like Shanna mentioned. For that, pricing should start at your best night ever at the club and go up from there. Maybe if you had worked, you would have sold an awesome VIP. If you're going to spend that time instead with him, make it worth it. As Sanna said, once you meet him otc, he probably won't want to meet you itc anymore. If it goes well and you want to keep meeting him, great. If not, there won't likely be any more money coming your way from him. All the more reason to make it worth it.

    If you really want to take on the landscaping project, you might suggest meeting up a couple times first so you can get a better feel for how he acts when there aren't any bouncers around. At the very least, the first meeting can be somewhere public. Have him bring in the data you need to give him a consultation/estimation. Charge appropriately for your time Otc *and* landscaping services. Also make it clear that if you go to his house, it'll just be for landscaping. No sex, no kissing, no touching at all unless it's a handshake. If you go to his house, you're going as a landscaper. Make that ridiculously clear so there can be absolutely no confusion. Let others know where exactly you're going. If that's not what he wants, suggest going out on a dinner date or something instead.

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    Default Re: Getting Paid for OTC

    Um, no no no. Do not go to his house. He can be dangerous. Juice his wallet up inside the club better, for as long as you can.

    Like SD said, otc dates should be in public and demand compensation. Compensation should be the amount of your best night for it to be worth it....otherwise it's training these guys to be cheap.

    No one going to anyone's home. Just no.

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    Hahah yeah good point. I was thinking it'd be outside and I wouldnt need to step foot into the house. I'm so shot I was all excited thinking this would be a great opportunity. �� Thanks ladies.

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    Took me a few minutes to realize the OP was really just looking to garden!

    But on the topic of OTC...if I had it in me to escort, that's how I'd do it. I'd work normal club shifts and then upsell customers to time OTC for escorting dates (meet somewhere public, go from there). If I weren't asexual and horribly paranoid about STIs, I would bank doing this. I'd claim all of the money under my dancing income, only meet up with guys who spend $$$, and just killll it.

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    Default Re: Getting Paid for OTC

    Turns out he didn't come in tonight anyway, he comes in like once or twice a year so it would have been really risky considering he was a complete stranger, but I was ready for the conversation if it had occurred.

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