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    Default Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    I see many camgirls using nice vape pens/boxes/etc that produce great puffs of 'smoke.' Could you ladies share what kind of vapes you're using? I'd be down to invest in a nice one if it's worth it, I just have no idea what to get or where to start. Some recommendations/info would be appreciated!

    Also, do you use your vapes successfully for smoking fetish guys? Or do you find that they don't like that it's not a real burning cigarette?

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    Default Re: Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    I use an ecig in real life so I hit it on cam occasionally, but no smoking fetish guys have liked it so far lol. I would suggest going to a local store for vapes/ecigs if ur interested, I'm sure the ppl there would be really helpful.






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    Default Re: Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    Smoking fetishists want a real cigarette and often they are very specific about what kinds. Virginia slims, More, Capri, etc. Vape don't really work for smoking fetish. A lot of it is lighting and taking drags, ashing, that makes it what it is.

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    Default Re: Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    Yeah, I found a few older threads about smoking fetish and the general consensus was that most guys won't go for the vape/e-cig.

    Still, I'm interested in one for my personal use. I don't usually smoke but I am anxious and have a bit of an oral fixation, so I think it'd be good on cam. Was hoping to get some specific info from cam ladies that like certain brands/styles. Not the disposable Blu e-cigs from the convenient store, more like the fancy pens and vape boxes.

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    I actually had a guy tonight tip me to take a puff off my vape since I had it in hand. I have a cute istick 30w eleaf that gives a nice cloud. But I agree the hard core smoke fet guy like the full cig experience. Since I was on a token site every time I smoked a real cig, I made it so the cam couldn't see lol. I didn't wanna give the smoking fet guys a freebie and also didn't want to scare off any potential custies who hate smokers (Unfortunatly there are plenty of smoke haters, so you might want to use discretion when smoking anything more then a vape outside of privates.)

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    Default Re: Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    I use a Eleaf iStick 50W with a Genitank clearomizer.I love eleaf design.
    I started with a pen ,and I didn`t like it but for non smokers they might be ok.
    I didn`t get any smoke fetish guy since I started vaping 4 months ago,they`re not into it.I don`t care,I hate cigarettes now and I love vaping.
    If you are not a smoker,don`t go for a high % nicotine juice because if you vape too much you can feel sick.

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    Default Re: Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    I really like that very, very few smoking dudes get off on vapes. My entire constitution is opposed to giving dudes free jerk off material and my ecig is necessary for my sanity in free chat and long shifts. As it is, most smoking fetish dudes are butt hurt I won't use 'real' cigarettes and are constantly asking why I don't keep my smokes anymore because, you know, they need that real possibility of cancer to get off...

    As has already been mentioned, most smoking fetish dudes really like slim, 'feminine' cigarettes that aren't easily found anymore and are as interested in the smoke clouds as they are the ashing, slow burn down, etc. Capri, More, and Virginia Slims are examples of requested brands I've had, and all of them I have to go to a specialty shop to get. Tack on that I do not want to smoke in my house even when I have fallen off the wagon and it's just one big no.

    As for ecigs--depends on what you want. The pen models you buy at the gas station are pretty shitty and overpriced. Most smoke shops in your town will be overpriced, actually, and the internet is the way to go. A quick google search of 'electronic cigarette store' brings back a ton of hits. I've purchased from the top three results myself with no issue and their prices are reasonable.

    I recommend you settle on a model you like and then go price hunting. Stay away from ebay and amazon as many of the devices you see there are 'clones,' meaning they're knock offs of the real models. Most cigarettes are made in China and patent law there is shit, so it's easy to steal designs and the clones are rarely as safe or effective as the real deal. Seriously--I once at a Spinner battery clone overheat and burn me. I bought it from a legit shop and the clone was so good even the company that produced the true brand had to send out notices on their site. Amazon and ebay may seem safe, but they have some truly shitty policies regarding policing clones and imitation brands (ex. Paul Mitchell hair products? Stay away!!!)

    I have used the eLeaf iStick 30W, 40W, and 50W batteries (small box mods). I have used the Aspire and e-Go batteries, and I have a standing love for Spinner batteries (small pen-style batteries). I currently run a Tesla 2, which is a small, self-regulating sub box mod. You'll want to dig around on Reddit to learn the differences, but basically the bigger the battery, the bigger the smoke clouds and the harder the hit. Pen-style batteries don't give a hit anywhere near what you get from a real cigarette. Box mods and RDAs (which are probably way more advanced than you want) give solid hits and huge clouds.

    The other thing you'll need is a tank. Tanks are often interchangeable on batteries, but not always. I used Aspire tanks for my pen-style batteries and had an adaptor to use it on my iStick. I currently use Innokin iSub Tank, which runs on 0.5 ohm coils. Good capacity for juice and good clouds. Not compatible with any of the pen-style batteries (just not powerful enough).

    Tanks produce clouds at the 'coil.' Coils are made up of metal coils and cotton normally and they burn out over time. They're cheap to replace online, but crazy expensive in stores. Ex. I can buy 0.5 ohm replacement coils online for $1.50 that last me 3-7 days a pop, but in store? $5.95-$9.95 each. The mark up is insane. That'll be an ongoing cost beyond start up.

    Then you need liquid, which is the yummy stuff you vape. I currently like Mech Sauce--it's cheap, solid quality, and yummy flavors for newbies. Most any sauce will do, but try to stick to USA made when you can and (again, look at Reddit--seriously) avoid anything with certain 'dubious' chemical additives.

    Recap: I personally use an Innokin iSub Tank with 0.5 ohm coils on a Tesla 2 sub mod with Mech Sauce juice. I spend probably $15/month on new coils (online prices only!) and another $20-$30 on juice (Mech Sauce is cheap). No, dudes don't find it sexy.


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    Default Re: Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    I was also thinking about getting a vape since I stopped smoking a while ago but since smoking fetishists prefer actual cigarrets I don't think smoking one once in a while would be too bad, specially if it's just once for a video or so.

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    Default Re: Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    I use Kangertech Subox Mini and it works beautifully.

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    Default Re: Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    I was getting lots of smoke requests. So bought a vape kit with no nicotine and I havent had a single request since.

    The vape clouds look great on cam mind.

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    Default Re: Vape pen recommendations + question about smoking fetish

    I'm always reading stories about how ecigs are blowing up because of the batteries exploding. The injuries are really gross. Also, this study: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...41008X14001367 suggests that nitric oxide is exhaled at the same rate as cigarettes.

    After reading this well written article on Gizmodo, (great sources too), I've decided not to get into vaping at all:

    Nitric oxides cause the smooth muscles in the lungs and heart to relax, which can lead to reduced lung function and increased risk of heart attack. The more NO your body retains, the worse it is for you. And bear in mind, these are studies conducted using the products of top-shelf manufacturers. There's an entire other issue with harmful additives used by less scrupulous offshore firms that we're not even getting into.

    What we do know is in e-cigs is not reassuring. Multiple studies have found chemicals like acetaldehyde, formaldehyde, and toluene, as well as heavy metals like cadmium, nickel, and lead, in both first and second-hand vapor. Again, these were present in concentrations a magnitude lower than conventional cigarettes but at high enough levels that they could arguably fall under California's Proposition 65 rules for mandatory labeling of their carcinogenic nature.

    A recent meta-study by Dr. Priscilla Callahan-Lyon of the FDA's Center for Tobacco Products examining data from 18 previous studies on e-cig vapor found that most contained at least trace amounts of the solvents used to dissolve the nicotine and flavorings. These solvents are potent lung irritants and, upon heating, can be converted to carcinogenic compounds known as carboxyls.

    What's more, since the first generation of e-cigs didn't produce the same nicotine kick that regular smoking did, manufacturers began incorporating voltage controls allowing users to up the power and increase the device's operating temperature—thereby increasing not just the rate of nicotine vaporization but that of carboxyl vaporization as well. According to Maciej Goniewicz of the Roswell Park Cancer Institute in Buffalo, using a current generation variable voltage vape on maximum can produce the same amount of formaldehyde as a regular cigarette. That's not good.

    What's more, the atomization process generates ultrafine particles—which can instigate the same effects seen in tobacco smoke or industrial air pollution. A 2007 study published in Environmental Health Perspectives found that the size and chemical composition of these particles can vary greatly between products. This variability has a big effect on their individual cytotoxicities, but the study did conclude that their presence in the air has a similar effect to tobacco smoke in terms of your pulmonary health. Altogether, between 20 and 27 percent of e-cigarette vapor's ultrafine particles make their way into the circulatory system, compared to 25 to 35 percent for regular cigarettes. A recent report from Science News points out that these nanoparticles can trigger inflammation in the mucus membrane and have been linked to chronic diseases like asthma, stroke, heart disease, and diabetes.

    We're In Unknown Territory

    Even the supposedly inert chemical substrate of e-liquid, propylene glycol, can have some pretty nasty effects on your body when heated and inhaled. Propylene glycol (PG) is a ubiquitous synthetic liquid added to a variety of foods, cosmetics, and medicines as a humidifying agent. For these functions, the FDA has rated PG as GRAS, or Generally Recognized As Safe, the agency's general seal of approval basically.

    However, none of those functions involve madly huffing hot PG into your lungs. "We have little information about what happens to propylene glycol in the air," the federal Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry website declares.

    We do know that habitual inhalation of aerosolized PG in industrial settings can lead to issues with the central nervous system, personality and behavior changes, and reduced spleen function. In fact, the Dow Chemical Company states that "inhalation exposure to [propylene glycol] mists should be avoided," and the American Chemistry Council has repeatedly issued warnings about inhaling theater fog as it may contribute to eye and respiratory infections.

    "Propylene Glycol is a pulmonary irritant—it's used for theater fog," Glantz told me. "And if you look on the product packaging, there's a warning on there to avoid prolonged exposure. And there you're not even breathing it in hot."

    Even better, when heated above a certain temperature, PG will convert to propylene oxide—a class 2B carcinogen as rated by the International Agency for Research.

    We Need More Data

    In response to the potential health threats that these devices may instigate, the FDA has begun asking for more research into their effects on pulmonary health. And despite the FDA's rumblings about more strictly regulating the e-cig market, scientists simply haven't had time understand the long-term effects of vaping on human physiology or its effectiveness as a cessation device. "Some evidence suggests that e-cigarette use may facilitate smoking cessation, but definitive data are lacking," Callahan-Lyon recently wrote.

    "Certainly, as the cigarette companies take over the e-cigarette market, there's no incentive for them to promote e-cigarettes as an alternative to regular cigarettes because the tobacco companies make a lot more money off of cigarettes," Glantz explained. $83 billion dollars more annually to be precise, and that's just in America. "The federal government and the FDA have to date been extremely flaccid in trying to deal with e-cigarettes," Glantz told me.

    The solution is fairly simple, Glantz continued, only requiring more robust market regulation:

    The first and, I think, most important thing to do is that e-cigarettes be included in existing clean indoor air laws which many, many cities are already doing. I believe there are already 150 to 200 cities around the country that have already done this including major cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and San Francisco.

    Getting rid of the "smoke anywhere" claim and also protecting bystanders from breathing second-hand vapor, I think is very important. E-cigarettes should be subject to the exact same marketing restrictions as conventional cigarettes are—we shouldn't have them being advertised on television or the radio. The same kind of licensing requirements places have for selling cigarettes should be applied to stores selling e-cigarettes. And they should be prohibited from making these unsubstantiated claims that e-cigarettes are good for helping people quit smoking or that they are emitting only harmless water vapor.
    So in the end, we still have more questions than answers when it comes to the long-term health effects of e-cigarettes. Sure, they're safer than conventional cigarettes—existing research bears that out—but they are far from truly "safe." They are not "harmless," and they do not generate "pure water vapor," or whatever Dorf was rambling on about. At the same time, there's an argument to be made that by even minimally reducing the harm caused by cigarettes is a positive thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyori View Post
    I'm always reading stories about how ecigs are blowing up because of the batteries exploding. The injuries are really gross. Also, this study: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...41008X14001367 suggests that nitric oxide is exhaled at the same rate as cigarettes.

    After reading this well written article on Gizmodo, (great sources too), I've decided not to get into vaping at all:
    Oh yeah, I've seen what a blow up looks like but in every case those were done with RDAs,usually with unsafe batteries that should have been thrown away ages ago or that the customer had incorrectly modified, and, very rarely, an unregulated clone. The legit companies are safe in terms of equipment and anyone who wants to vape just for fun isn't likely to run into the kinds of mods that have that chance. But, again, this is a very good warning regarding modifying. Like, take that shit seriously.

    As for the juices and inhalation issue--it's really up in the air. There are as many studies showing them to be safe as there showing them to be harmful, and most of the studies I found when I went digging were funded by special interest groups making the findings dubious at best. Yeah, I dusted off my degree and dug out my old password for the journals archive at my alma mater; it was fun, lol.

    Thus far the research isn't really in for long term effects, if there are any, but that's because the product is still new. What is generally accepted is that they are magnitudes less harmful than actual cigarettes. That said, it remains to be seen if there are any harmful side effects from using the 'safe' devices. As things go, it's always best to just not smoke anything at all and not start if you're not already using them. I'm a long term cigarette smoker and quitting is without this has failed for...8 years now, so for me they're useful and I may wean off sometime in the near-ish future. We'll see.


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    Awesome thorough info, thank you ladies!

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