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    I am an escort but most people would consider me a sugar baby because I favor multi hour appointments and have always dated wealthy men for money. I call myself an escort, but most would say I fall more into the sugar category. I saw on this website that sugar websites seem to have all these big spenders, so I decided to try it out for myself once again, but this time I used my knowledge of escort marketing to make different personas.

    I decided to treat it like I do escorting, which means multiple profiles. I am part Asian and look Asian in the face, so I made a happa profile, a white profile (I'm blonde), and an Asian profile. One was 19, one was 23, and the other was my real age of 27. My results were that the 19 year old happa profile received the most messages, followed by the 27 year old working professional Asian, followed by the 23 year old white woman.

    *Although it got the most messages, most of the men tried to manipulate me as the 19 year old happa and this is because I tried to seem really young. I also attracted pedophiles
    *The 23 year old white woman profile was the least responsive, but I was using professional modeling photos so men may have thought I was a fake? I also kept getting asked if I was "a transvestite" and had one guy tell me that "most blondes on this website are transvestites" which was odd. Men kept fetishizing me as a model because I have long lean legs, and when I told some of them I worked a day job they would say things like "that's not glamorous" as if because of my shape I am supposed to have a pampered lifestyle
    *Despite getting the least amount of messages, my most successful profile was the 27 year old working professional nerdy Asian woman. I found some generous sugar daddies with this profile, but nothing more than I could have made escorting. They also kept commenting how everyone was woman from the site was out for their wallet and how I wouldn't be because I'm a hard working Asian woman. These stereotypes were annoying. They also fetishized me much more than average, calling me docile and submissive when that's not really how I am. They wanted me to be this way, so I pretended


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    I've tried doing it two ways. The first way was being upfront about money. 90% of the men ignored me after that, and many said they were reporting me for being "an escort" because they "don't want this to be a monetary transaction" so they want everything for FREE instead?! LOL no

    The second way was to not mention money until they had begun texting me and we had set up a time and place to meet. Men were really excited and 100% of them text me after I said I wanted to meet and hadn't discussed money yet. This is proof that they are scammers because after we set a place and time to meet I would text about my financial expectations in a very nice way, even if I had said its negotiable, only about 10% or less actually said they wanted to meet. Many of them called me a whore or gold digger.

    Most of these men think you'll meet them FOR FREE. You can forget any men under 40 too because they are by far the ones most often who expect you to meet them FOR FREE. I was appalled.

    Its no coincidence that almost every guy throws out the SAME monetary compensation number, which is IRONICALLY the average going rate for 1 hour of escort's time in my area. The difference is that these men wanted to meet for much longer than one hour. They are trying to find deals and that's gross so I'd rather just be an escort.


    Most of these men agreed to an arrangement, and then I never heard from them again. I was in character the whole time, and in a natural way since I have lots of experience doing this from escorting. This would cause someone looking for only a few partners to become distraught. These men will lie and say they will meet you several more times, but most of the time they don't because they are looking for a cheaper deal. I know this because I contacted some and they said we could meet if they paid me less, or they flat out tried to pay me less without permission. "Sugar daddies" on sugar sites are the new TER hobbyists. They would do things like try not to pay me, cut my pay in half, try to force things I already said I was not comfortable with, and force bareback by taking off condoms or saying they are allergic or "snipped" which is terrible, unsafe, and would get you blacklisted on any escort database. Who knows how many women they have done this to. If you tried to fight back, they would say "hot girls will do this for $150 you're lucky you're getting this much" just like the hobbyists I refuse to see as an escort, only worse.

    VERDICT? Skip sugar sites. It was so much work to filter through these messages and most men weren't serious. I've met men at exclusive places who were real sugar daddies, and much more generous. For the time you spend, you will make much less than an escort.


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    thank you! i was thinking of signing up again. sometimes i read the sugar baby tumblr's and they sound like made up fantasy stories and all supposedly have their guys from SA

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    thank you! i was thinking of signing up again. sometimes i read the sugar baby tumblr's and they sound like made up fantasy stories and all supposedly have their guys from SA
    The reality is that most of them don't know how to escort or they would be doing that instead. Or they are happy to be paid a couple hundred dollars for hours and hours of this man's time (with sex), so ignore the fantasy. I tell it like it is

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    I need to add that it is DANGEROUS to meet these men from sugar websites. My experiences were terrible and these were men I could screen! Most of them were scammers, hagglers, liars, and manipulators who would have been blacklisted a long time ago if they were spending time with escorts instead of self-proclaimed sugar babies. Self-proclaimed sugar babies don't use screening websites and techniques, and even if they did, there is no uniform blacklist or screening database where the previous sugar baby of your potential new sugar baby could have blacklisted him. So he is able to pull the same manipulation tactics over and over again without being stopped. Its terrible

    Men on sugar websites are the new hobbyists who are often only looking to mess with women's heads because they are bored with their lives. They also want to stretch their money the furthest possible, looking for the best "deal" like the perfect 10 woman who will spend 7 hours with him for $300, when she could charge more than that hourly as an escort doing the same thing. These men only want dumb girls who fall for these tactics

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    Technally that's the difference between a sugar baby and an escort. While I do believe thumblr sugar babies lie flat out they're not escorts. I would also think escorts would make more money. I mean there's escorts, sugar baby, groupies and trophy wives all exchange sex for something in exchange but all have different motives. IMO escorts have sex get paid move on. Sugar babies go on dates, have sex and are at daddies beckon call and they get paid with gifts, money and affection ( think Hugh Hefner and his girlfriends). Groupies just want to be near a famous person and some get paid for it (think NBA). Trophy wives marry for money.

    I don't get why people keep putting these groups together. They're subcategories really.

    I wouldn't ask a sugar daddy for money or have sex with one on a first date. That's time to figure out the arrangement and leave. I'm also dating this guy in a sense so I'm not charging him for his time by the minute. Usually I'll only have one maybe two sugar daddy(ies). He takes care of me by providing mentoring advice and financial security and depending on what you're looking for travel with them for new experiences. Sugar babies are basically limited time rich guy girlfriends.

    Are there johns passing themselves off as sugar daddies lol YES! They just want cheap sex from girls who don't know any better. Real sugar daddies/ babies are few and far between.

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    ^Yes but most mid tier and above escorts can offer multi hour appointments. I am multi hour only so I do longer dates only where we go out or I come to them, just like a sugar baby. I also go to introduction meetings where I meet wealthy men and then a madam type woman gets a cut or fee. I am basically a sugar baby, but I think escort is the easiest term. More escorts who tier their rates in favor of multi hour appointments are doing the same as sugar babies, but its on their own terms instead of the client's terms. FYI most guys on sugar websites are not looking for what you mentioned above and if you travel with them, they won't be paying you.

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    That's what I said real sugar relationships are few and far between. I know that travel is a form of payment. I was just mentioning that there IS a difference between escorting and being a sugar baby. You may have things in common with a sugar baby but you're an escort. You're doing pay for play and sugar babies don't do that. Being a sugar baby is more about a relationship of some sort with payment while you're mostly about payment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    thank you! i was thinking of signing up again. sometimes i read the sugar baby tumblr's and they sound like made up fantasy stories and all supposedly have their guys from SA
    I'm sure some of the stories on tumblr are planted by the people who own the SA sites.

    To throw a slightly different angle into this conversation- over a decade ago I got on a SD site when they were pretty new & the one normal inquiry I got was from a widower who seemed way too nice for me to hustle. Who knows maybe he was lying about all that, but he was pretty sweet in his communications, and patient. So not all the guys on those sites are psychopaths...BUT I think most of them are.

    At this point in my life I'd rather work 40 hours than have to sit through dinners & evenings with a man I'd like to be miles away from. My sanity is worth more than whatever some of those guys wanna throw at me.

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    I have always felt this way about sugar websites, they are crap! Meet your sugar daddy in person, the ones who go on the internet are not real. Not only are they not real, they are usually mentally abnormal (LOL!) And one more thing...a genuine true blue sugar daddy will never call himself a sugar daddy. Don't ever bring that term up in front of him either.

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    My experience with online SD/SB dating has been similar.

    Although, I wonder if putting up a profile that says I'm only interested in a pay per visit type of relationship (hinting at escort status) would yield anything of value. But on second thought, so many of them have that hobbyist vibe and that bothers me.

    Until these websites, I've never had a man say to me that he's snipped therefore we should go bareback. I was like umm, so yeah...NO. Do you not care about your health? Anytime a guy says he's looking for an "ongoing exclusive arrangement" my scammer alert goes off.

    *I did have two guys bring up the arrangement amount within the 1st few emails. They were like this is my budget, if that works for you lets get to know each other, otherwise I don't want to waste your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    thank you! i was thinking of signing up again. sometimes i read the sugar baby tumblr's and they sound like made up fantasy stories and all supposedly have their guys from SA
    I used to follow tumblr sugar babies and be fascinated by them.. but after I had my own SD's and got into escorting, I realized a lot of it is fake or potentially fake. Now that I'm escorting , I make a lot of money. I could take money shots and post on tumblr if I wanted. Or even post up pictures of designer shoes and bags... But none of that appeals to me. Those tumblr sugar babies could be escorts for all you know. Or even just born into wealthy families. I think a lot of those girls crave attention and validation, it's sad. You can be anything on the internet and tumblr definitely over glamorizes the sugar baby lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red.velvet View Post
    I need to add that it is DANGEROUS to meet these men from sugar websites. My experiences were terrible and these were men I could screen! Most of them were scammers, hagglers, liars, and manipulators who would have been blacklisted a long time ago if they were spending time with escorts instead of self-proclaimed sugar babies. Self-proclaimed sugar babies don't use screening websites and techniques, and even if they did, there is no uniform blacklist or screening database where the previous sugar baby of your potential new sugar baby could have blacklisted him. So he is able to pull the same manipulation tactics over and over again without being stopped. Its terrible

    Men on sugar websites are the new hobbyists who are often only looking to mess with women's heads because they are bored with their lives. They also want to stretch their money the furthest possible, looking for the best "deal" like the perfect 10 woman who will spend 7 hours with him for $300, when she could charge more than that hourly as an escort doing the same thing. These men only want dumb girls who fall for these tactics
    OMG, is this EVER on target!^ Yes, so true.


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    Fantastic post and a perfect representation of what I think is going on right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LexyLove View Post
    I used to follow tumblr sugar babies and be fascinated by them.. but after I had my own SD's and got into escorting, I realized a lot of it is fake or potentially fake. Now that I'm escorting , I make a lot of money. I could take money shots and post on tumblr if I wanted. Or even post up pictures of designer shoes and bags... But none of that appeals to me. Those tumblr sugar babies could be escorts for all you know. Or even just born into wealthy families. I think a lot of those girls crave attention and validation, it's sad. You can be anything on the internet and tumblr definitely over glamorizes the sugar baby lifestyle.
    I guarantee those tumblr sugar babies are escorts who lie about it because they think sugaring is glamorous and escorting is embarrassing. A lot of the girls who post on tumblr aren't exactly living in reality anyway. They are escorting

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    I've also read some horrific stories, one girl was recently drugged/raped, & the guy got her real name by voing thru her purse


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    To keep perspective:

    In the US sexual escorting (sorry best name I could think of for 99.8% of escorting) is illegal. Sugaring is legal. For many people there is a premium on that.

    Sugaring has fewer clients. Different styles of hustle might work on fewer more concentrated opportunities. From what I gather, the classic Manhattan two SDs and $8000/month is optimal for an SB. Obviously the target for high end escorts is at least double that revenue, with many more clients seen.

    20% of the US can easily afford to see an escort regularly. So 20 million potential regular clients. Only 2 million (or less) can afford a SB.

    Escorting is higher risk, and has a much larger pool of potential clients. Sugaring is much more competitive than anyone realizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    To keep perspective:

    In the US sexual escorting (sorry best name I could think of for 99.8% of escorting) is illegal. Sugaring is legal. For many people there is a premium on that.

    Sugaring has fewer clients. Different styles of hustle might work on fewer more concentrated opportunities. From what I gather, the classic Manhattan two SDs and $8000/month is optimal for an SB. Obviously the target for high end escorts is at least double that revenue, with many more clients seen.

    20% of the US can easily afford to see an escort regularly. So 20 million potential regular clients. Only 2 million (or less) can afford a SB.

    Escorting is higher risk, and has a much larger pool of potential clients. Sugaring is much more competitive than anyone realizes.
    There's a difference between real sugaring and these fake sugar daddies on sugar daddy sites. You're talking about real sugaring, which I do already. From these sites, I couldn't even find a guy who paid me 2k for a month, and I used to model so I know I'm cream of the crop when it comes to what men are looking for. The problem is, these men on these sites are fakes and scammers.

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    According to the forum I read, they do screen & they have a blacklist on there of bad guys, I don't say it's as good/efficient as the escorting one..
    Also, some girls on there do admit to escorting.
    But yea, fair share of BS on there too.


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    Sorry you went through that-stick to the true ones and save your sanity.
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    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    According to the forum I read, they do screen & they have a blacklist on there of bad guys, I don't say it's as good/efficient as the escorting one..
    Also, some girls on there do admit to escorting.
    But yea, fair share of BS on there too.
    That is invalid and mostly useless because here is the problem. If 100% of girls in an industry don't screen, you are not safe AT ALL. Close to 100% of escorts screen, and those that don't (a few small %), are put in a position where they can only charge low rates so you won't come in contact with their clientele if you are mid range or high end yourself like I am. If they continue to not screen, I guarantee you its only a matter of time til they are arrested and no longer escort, or are forced to start screening.

    Even if 90% of sugar babies using sugar sites screened, which is not the case, it still would NOT be enough to keep you safe! Why? Because 10% of girls are seeing men who can turn out to be very dangerous, violent, scammers, trying to expose you to STDs with bareback, and even worse! If those clients are not IMMEDIATELY blacklisted, guess what? They could be YOUR next client and there's no record of the incredibly fucked up things he's done before. So you have a false sense of security, thinking OH BUT I'VE SCREENED HIM when its pointless because others aren't reporting their experiences with him before you. Like I said, the men I met off these sites, I screened them and they were prominent men like lawyers and doctors with a nice online presence, but they STILL tried to scam me! This is because women before me were NOT screening him and blacklisting him for being a scammer!

    Men who actually pay a lot WANT you to screen them! They know that screening is for BOTH parties to remain safe. Fake sugar daddy scammers from these websites get around this because they know there's no industry standard to screen sugar daddies, and sugaring isn't illegal so THEY are safe, but the girl is absolutely not safe and putting herself in a position to get scammed. That's what happens, and the scammers take advantage of it. This does NOT happen in escorting because escorts screen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    Escorting is higher risk, and has a much larger pool of potential clients. Sugaring is much more competitive than anyone realizes.
    No, escorting is not higher risk. If you screen, there is a 99.99% chance you won't be arrested. Sugar babies don't screen so there is a MAJOR risk of their client turning out to be violent, unsafe, or a scammer! I went through this and had it happen to me dozens of times, and with almost every guy from those sites who did have a nice job and strong online presence.

    If the sugar babies who have seen this man before you have not kept a record of unsafe things he's done in an online database, which sugar babies don't do, then who knows what kind of creep you'll end up with! FALSE sense of security!

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    Does anyone actually use sugar daddy websites to make more than they make escorting? I'm still LMAOing about some of the things these men said. When asked about their experiences on the website (most asked me first so I asked in return), they told me "there are so many hookers! those are for old married men, not for me!" They were so delusional trying to convince themselves that they weren't already giving money to a woman for temporary companionship and sex (me), and that they were somehow sooooo much more attractive and amazing compared to older men. Nope, we still view all of you as wallets and you're still engaging in pay for play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red.velvet View Post
    No, escorting is not higher risk. If you screen, there is a 99.99% chance you won't be arrested. Sugar babies don't screen so there is a MAJOR risk of their client turning out to be violent, unsafe, or a scammer! I went through this and had it happen to me dozens of times, and with almost every guy from those sites who did have a nice job and strong online presence.

    If the sugar babies who have seen this man before you have not kept a record of unsafe things he's done in an online database, which sugar babies don't do, then who knows what kind of creep you'll end up with! FALSE sense of security!
    I very strongly disagree. There are still numerous arrests, and in no profession anywhere is there a 99% compliance with safety recommendations. Screening helps, but it is no guarantee against arrest or bad clients.

    You replied to my post twice. I agree with your previous reply that there are many Splenda and salt daddies. I would say conservatively they make up 98% of the population on the sites.

    So we're clear, you typically respond to my posts by chiding me for supporting sugaring. I do not support or recommend either over the other. Both sugaring and escorting have their ups and downs. People make their choice based on who they are and what they want. I post because I hope everyone who makes that choice has the information and support to be safe and successful.
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    ^Bahuba, you're correct in that majority of men on sugar sites are scammers. Where would you say I can meet actual sugar daddies?

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