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    Default Guam question? Problems with management?

    Hi everyone! I recently decided to dance in Guam (after reading tons of forums in here and speaking one on one with other dancers and club owners/managers) and now I feel like I'm stuck in a pickle.

    In a private Facebook stripper group I'm apart of a club owner (Roxanne/Club 4play) posted she was looking for dancers a month or so ago. I asked her questions and did research and 4 days later I agreed to it and came up with a date (April 15th) and she said that was okay. The week of rolled around and I tried contacting her via Facebook and she didn't message me back. I tried again this weekend and same thing occurred - no response. I got worried and emailed/applied to 3 other clubs starting last Thursday. (Club USA, Vikings, Club Foxy) and the only response I heard was from Patrick from Club USA and that's because my picture didn't go through. I sent 8 other pictures showing my face and body, but he didn't reply back to that either. That was Thursday, the 14th.

    Im starting to get very worried because I've already put in my 3 month leave of absence in at my (waitressing) job. On top of that I've gotten a 3 month supply of my meds, and tied up all loose ends where I live and found someone to pet sit my dog. I am 100% ready to hop on a plane and work for a club somewhere else. Not to mention I've gotten really excited about it since I've never been this far away from home ever.

    Anyways, you can see the dilemma I'm faced with. I have bills that are about to be due soon, no feasible means of creating an income unless I start driving 3 hours to dance at my home club in New Orleans, get another job, or try to return to my current one which would be problematic because my manager already hired new staff to take my place.

    I really don't know what's going on and it's really starting to bother me. I'm well spoken, smart, respectful, gregarious, responsible, attractive, young, in good shape, have 3.5 years of experience as an entertainer and 5 years experience as an at home pole dancer. No kids, so nothing to tie me down to one area, and yet all the clubs keep ignoring me.

    I thought at first that maybe all the clubs have a sufficient amount of dancers but I don't know why the two managers I spoke with (Patrick/Club USA and Roxanne/Club 4Play) would of inquired more about me/planned to make arrangements with me if they had enough dancers to begin with. Now my anxiety is kicking in and I'm starting to contemplate that it may be because I'm black and am being stereotyped once again, or maybe the ticket prices where I live (Jackson, MS) are too high or what?!

    Has anyone experienced anything similar? If so, what was the outdone of it? Or maybe if anyone has ever done the Guam trip themselves before did you hear about things like this happening? Thanks so much everyone. My anxiety is kicking in, and my excitement is turning into despair and sadness.

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    So, you need a plan B. Travel someplace else to work? I hear Guam isn't even that great of money.. try a high money city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielbriel View Post
    So, you need a plan B. Travel someplace else to work? I hear Guam isn't even that great of money.. try a high money city.
    I understand that. The only issue with that is the flight accommodations was a VERY attractive part of the deal considering I can't really afford to travel too far on a waitress' salary. Ive tried dancing in the city I'm in currently, but it's way too corrupt, racist, and play favoritism to the max.

    Currently, my backup plan would be Tootsies in the Virgin Islands (although I'd rather not because I've heard even worse things about that one) find a way to get my passport expedited so I can do some of the dancing opportunities at overseas clubs, or drive to New Orleans a few times a week and hopefully earn enough there to sustain myself. I know from first hand experience that summer is down season for all of New Orleans though so that's a pretty risky gamble in and of itself. Maybe I'll look into some clubs in Alabama next? Gahhhhh, this is a horrible situation.

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    Yea I heard Guam is good in the winter months. I've talked to some dancers personally at my club about Guam and "good" is not even that good. Like $20,000 for 3 months working 5 days a week. It's nice that they cover your airfare and housing, but I second arielbriel. You're going to have to travel somewhere else. I would suggest saving up to travel somewhere else.

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    I'd suggest making the commute to New Orleans for the time being just to save up some cash. If possible, maybe stay for several days in a row and work as much as you can before going back home each week. A couple weeks of this should hopefully give you a nice little nest egg to start off with, and you can use that to travel further out from there. It might be tight, but it should be doable.

    Edit: Alternatively, if you have all your loose ends wrapped up anyway, why not save the time and gas and just get an extended stay in NOLA? Just stay there until you have enough of a lump sum that you feel totally comfortable traveling out with, and if the money starts to dwindle too much for the summer, leave then?

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    I'm in the same Facebook group as you and had the same problem with the same owner. I didn't go as far as to pick out a date because she was already being vague ams i didnt feel like playing internet and phone tag and pulling answers out of someone. I don't know what the deal is.

    I second what others said about using the time to travel to a high money area or is there any way you can tell your job your vacation was canceled and can work after all?

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    I'm thinking that you should tell you waitress job managers that your plans have been postponed a month and see if they are open to continuing to schedule you.

    I wish to goodness I knew more about your area so I could recommend a sure fire city/club but I've never worked that region. Where do you have friends/relatives you can visit? Those cities may be up for debate.

    Side note: when planning strip trips in the future especially international trips always have your return airfare lined up. I can't tell you how often plans change on the fly. The club is either not what they promised, or the season is off, or one manager likes you and the other doesn't, conflicts with other girls come up, you name it. I mean I arranged housing on my last trip and the bedroom window had a frickin TREE LIMB growing into it so it never closed and was freezing at night. Babe, ya never know. I've worked clubs where one manger loves Black chicks and another manager is a Klan/Nazi rep! So you never know if you'll have to split your schedule up to only work with the cool manager and work across town at another club to fill out your hours.
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    If you take the time to PM me, I can help you with NOLA. I've worked there a lot. But I'd rather you PM me. It shows you will make an effort to get info. Otherwise, I now only give info to those that I have a good repoire with on here. I've had too many ladies on here PM me for free info. And then never return the favor.

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    Just got back from Guam, It took literally a month before I started to see much money. I worked at club usa and until you pay off your flight half of your money goes to the club. There was plenty of nights where I would leave with 20-30$ only.
    I'm just saying don't expect to go in and make a ton right away. When there's no ships in, its really difficult to make money and very slow.

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    Go to New Orleans!!

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    I like in southern USA, more specifically Jackson, Ms. There's nothing really close (1-3 hours away) apart from New Orleans. Atlanta is 6 hours away from me, but even though it looks like they're making money, I doubt an an average looking black girl with real boobs and real ass would do well out there. Not knocking anyone with those attributes, it's just that people who visit those areas go to see a certain type of girl.

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    What about Dannys in Jackson? I featured there earlier this year, and there seemed to be money in there.
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