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    I was watching a documentary on escorting && my grandma told me I lacked spirituality. She told me that fact that I was even thinking about doing it that I needed Jesus (thinking?! Lady if you knew....). Anyway...we got in a heated debate about religion. I told her that sloth (laziness) was also a sin.

    I explained to her that God helps people that want to help themselves, regardless of how sticky/tricky the road may be. Then she told me I was going to hell and walked out of my room....mad!

    Does anyone else live with parents or deal with annoyances like this daily
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    Nope! Been living a happy atheist life ever since I moved out at 18. Unfortunately, if you still live with your parents you're going to have to put up with their rules and opinions. It's sad when parents tell their children they are going to hell. What a mean thing to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvnrockets View Post
    . Unfortunately, if you still live with your parents you're going to have to put up with their rules and opinions. It's sad when parents tell their children they are going to hell. What a mean thing to say.
    If you think that's annoying/bad, try homelessness, that REALLY sucks!
    & yes, I'm spiritual, but I believe in sex work, today's world is much more difficult. & yes a lot of people have a certain mindset about things, you just have to 'go around them' as best you can, & do you.


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    You are not going to change mind of an older person. You have to be wiser. You have your opinion she has her, thats. I dont take advice of old people how to live in current time, i know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    If you think that's annoying/bad, try homelessness, that REALLY sucks!
    Why the snark? I didn't say she had to move out or criticize her for staying.
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    Spirituality comes in many forms. All religions have the same core idea. There is something out there, bigger than ourselves. It's unfortunate that some people think their belief system is the only way to find true self acceptance and happiness (which I call heaven). The goal is to be the best person you can be; to grow, change, and work with the circumstances that are presented to us in a conscious, empowered way. I've found my spirituality through sex work and I believe others can, too. <3 I take moments where people defy my thinking as a challenge for myself to grow. Every moment is a practice moment. How can I be the best me? Acknowledging our differences and still honoring others, while recognizing we are all connected at the same time.

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    Did you invite your grandma to watch the documentary with you or was she just being nosy? If she was being nosy, probably the best way to deal with her negativity would be to avoid any subject not Jesus related from now on. (also, Jesus hung out with whores. Maybe grandma forgot that part of the bible.)

    If you invited your grandma to watch the documentary with you, maybe apologize for upsetting her. Some old people like the world to be a very limited and small place. Things were very different when they were young, and they just can't relate to how the world has changed over their long lifetimes. One day, you'll probably be faced with things that horrify you in the future, but your grandkids will be like..."Get over it Grandma, throwing live puppies into meat grinders for entertainment is better than homelessness. Sheesh!" (I obviously have no idea if this will ever be a thing in the future, but that is a little bit what 4th wave feminism sounds like to the oldest people in American society.)

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    On this topic this is why I think "Game Of Thrones" is a runaway smash hit & also the Star Wars revival has been welcomed so warmly- people in the Western world are ready to have both realistic concepts of how the world works & also have alternate ideas of spiritual reality.

    I'd tell OP not to waste time on trying to change someone's world view- people just have to be themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvnrockets View Post
    Why the snark? I didn't say she had to move out or criticize her for staying.
    That's NOT what I meant, nor did I mean anything toward you..


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    Do you have spirituality...?
    Occasionally.
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    OP, I had older parents, I can understand..
    Watching a doc about that topic w/an older person's bound to raise issues, just saying.
    Honestly, I wish I had followed a lot of advice given to me by elders BUT NOT EVERYTHING of course.
    I wish you the best as you work thru this, & yes, my spirituality has helped me in life & still does


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    Well you were given a brain and free will to think what you want and your family will have to understand you have a different view regarding religion and spirituality.

    Trust me. Stand up for yourself when necessary but dont go trying to debate with them and change their minds. Some people have hard time if their family doesn't share the same beliefs.

    As much as family want to try to help you "save you from sin" this is YOUR life not your grandmas. You have a right to believe what ever you want just like she has a right to believe whatever she wants. And in an ideal world we'd respect each other viewpoints even if we disagree but often times this is not the case.

    As long as youre not hurting yourself or other people you should be able to believe what you want.

    Sadly most people think of escorts as all drugged out streetwalkers looking for the next fix and the next John, so maybe she was thinking you'd throw away all the guidance she gave you and put yourself in a position where it's likely you'd be hurt physically or emotionally.

    I would have asked her why she abruptly left the room while trying to have a civilized discussion.

    Also people hold their religion in high regard to their everyday life (even if irrational) so when you challenge their beliefs they get extremely defensive.
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    OP,

    This is a great thread. Yes,I have great faith and spirituality. I would apologized to your grandmother because she felt offended and then I would just drop the issue. But I never experience that when my grandmother was alive. However, I come from a family where everyone reaches their own spiritual path. My grandmother was a woman ahead of her times who believed in good and evil. While my grandmother was Christian, my grandmother taught me about multiple spiritual paths including all types of witchcraft and other sorts of occultic things. In fact, I was allowed to read grimoires and other the hellish stuff that I wanted as a child. She would take me to magic shops as a little girl. I told my parents that I wanted absolute knowledge in both good and evil.My grandmother decided to step to the plate .We talked about Heaven, Hell, God, Satan, and everything in between. Now, we would get into disputes over some of things that she told me but that is because she was not an American nor from my generation. But her knowledge is very validable including her sexual knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tourdefranzia View Post
    Did you invite your grandma to watch the documentary with you or was she just being nosy? If she was being nosy, probably the best way to deal with her negativity would be to avoid any subject not Jesus related from now on. (also, Jesus hung out with whores. Maybe grandma forgot that part of the bible.)

    If you invited your grandma to watch the documentary with you, maybe apologize for upsetting her. Some old people like the world to be a very limited and small place. Things were very different when they were young, and they just can't relate to how the world has changed over their long lifetimes. One day, you'll probably be faced with things that horrify you in the future, but your grandkids will be like..."Get over it Grandma, throwing live puppies into meat grinders for entertainment is better than homelessness. Sheesh!" (I obviously have no idea if this will ever be a thing in the future, but that is a little bit what 4th wave feminism sounds like to the oldest people in American society.)
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    Tried homelessness... it was ALMOST easier. The only reason why I haven't moved out yet is because people keep telling me a blessing is comingso I'm trying to hang on but....
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    Why the snark? I didn't say she had to move out or criticize her for staying.
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    I get it..I hope it gets better for you, good luck dear.


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