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    Hello everyone. Bouncer here.

    I've been lurking on this site as a guest for a while and it's given me some insight to the industry. I finally decided to make a username. Does anyone have any advice for a newbie bouncer? I'm primarily hoping to hear from dancers, things to look out for and mistakes they have seen bouncers make that I should avoid, but I'm open to anyone's input.

    Thank you!

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    Talk the guys out as much as possible & use force only as a last resort. It can tax your patience, but pays off in the long run.
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    Djoser, totally agree.

    One of the dancers told me my body language comes off as very aggressive, so I try to offset that by talking politely. I'd rather circumvent an issue and keep them in the club and spending money than kick them out.

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    Don't be a creep to dancers. Like don't start adding girls on insta and snap, especially the younger/newer dancers. Work will get dramatic fast. If you are helpful to the girls, such as talking to guys and then suggesting to the right girl to go over she will probably tip you or make the guy tip you. There's lots of money for everyone to make in clubs.

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    Yeah, no worries there Amelia. I have contact info from some of the dancers, but that's only for work related issues. Only one customer so far has asked my recomendation, (scratch that, two, but the other guy was looking for extras and I shut down that convo quickly) but now and then I'll discretely tell a girl if I notice a customer eyeing her.

    The bouncers don't get tipped by the entertainers here. It's just the culture of this club I guess.

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    Make an arrangement with a dancer or several dancers that you will help them out if they help you out. Generally 10%-20% kickback is normal.
    Enforce the rules. If it's no touching, don't let the guys touch. If the guys have to tip at the rack, gently remind them to. The girls shouldn't have to be the "bad guy", that's your job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kzrk View Post
    Djoser, totally agree.

    One of the dancers told me my body language comes off as very aggressive, so I try to offset that by talking politely. I'd rather circumvent an issue and keep them in the club and spending money than kick them out.
    Ha I think I have the same thing going (body language comes off as very aggressive). And if I am in a certain mood (bad, or pumped up from a busy night), I'm going to have a hard time just talking. Sometimes it's very difficult. Fortunately, I am usually in the DJ booth, & usually only act as backup. Often just having another guy standing there is enough.
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    If you're a hot bouncer it's really easy to sleep with dancers. But you'll just have too much drama. And maybe lose your job so it's not worth getting involved in that drama. Also, be nice to customers, many will tip you and help you out in other ways. I've worked at places whereas the bouncers weren't nice to customers. And many customers talked a lot of crap about the bouncers to everyone. So it's best to be nice to the customers. And they usually will be nice back to you.

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    Nyla19,

    There are a few customers who recognize me and like to come over and chat. No problems there, they are good customers and want to spend money in an environment they are comfortable in. What I've noticed is if a customer tries to be my friend right from the start, chances are we are going to kick him out at some point. There are some guys who figure if they can get in good with security we will turn a blind eye to their wandering hands and/or their drug dealing.

    I'm not a good looking guy. Despite that three of our dancers have expressed interest in me. I can only imagine what's going to happen to the guy we just hired. I'm not into men, but even Ray Charles could see he's attractive.

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    Nyla19,

    There are a few customers who recognize me and like to come over and chat. No problems there, they are good customers and want to spend money in an environment they are comfortable in. What I've noticed is if a customer tries to be my friend right from the start, chances are we are going to kick him out at some point. There are some guys who figure if they can get in good with security we will turn a blind eye to their wandering hands and/or their drug dealing.

    I'm not a good looking guy. Despite that three of our dancers have expressed interest in me. I can only imagine what's going to happen to the guy we just hired. I'm not into men, but even Ray Charles could see he's attractive.
    Good point! And I've always loved that rAy Charles quote.

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    Ok, I feel awkward about asking this question but here goes...

    In every job there's a chance that coworkers are going to be interested in each other. Nyla19 mentioned it, working at the club, it seems like there is a much higher number of coworkers making a pass at me or at least hanging around me too much trying to get my attention. I have some guesses why this is, but I'm curious what you all think?

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    Kzrk
    I always had a few rules for my guys
    1. Always have a pack of smokes that you don't smoke
    2. Always have mints
    3. Always keep a lighter on a chain or cable

    If your working door and you can offer a smoke to a customer and a mint or gum after. You not only improve customer experience but you have engaged with them and now your a great guy not just the shitty bouncer at the door. With female patrons this can also score you extra tips.

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    I have been to a lot of clubs and I have noticed some good bouncers and some lousy ones that dancers told me they didn't feel that particular bouncer did a good job protecting her.

    At one club was at I remember a dancer got in trouble with management because she supposedly "allowed" a guy to get away with touching that wasn't allowed. She told her manager at the previous club she worked at this was the bouncer's job to stop the guy not her. She said she politely told him to stop and he wouldn't. She told her manager what does he expect her to do? This guy is like 6' tall and 220 lbs and she is like 5' and 110 lbs. She said she didn't want get too aggressive with him because she knew he could hurt her and assumed it would be like the other club she worked at where the great big muscular bouncer would intervene for her.

    so I would say a good bouncer knows when to intervene when need be and doesn't leave that to the dancer to physically stop the guy once she has already told him to politely stop.

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    I like it when they "blame" the rules on me. It makes my role easier and they don't tarnish their image for the customer.

    I've brought mints and gum for me personally so I started leaving some at the door. Now they are popping up at the bat too. I guess the idea is taking hold.

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    At one club was at I remember a dancer got in trouble with management because she supposedly "allowed" a guy to get away with touching that wasn't allowed.
    My advice loosen up, don't be reactive, let it be if she's making cash.

    The best clubs I've known have been the ones were rules are adhered to but not strictly adhered to, so long as money is made.

    So if she wants a customer to touch her why not, I've had girls put my hands on their ass or legs etc. and they made a hell of a lot more money out of me than some bouncer coming over and telling her to not do that.

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    Don't sleep with anyone and don't make friends. Keep everything professional and polite and you will be just fine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kzrk View Post
    Nyla19,

    There are a few customers who recognize me and like to come over and chat. No problems there, they are good customers and want to spend money in an environment they are comfortable in. What I've noticed is if a customer tries to be my friend right from the start, chances are we are going to kick him out at some point. There are some guys who figure if they can get in good with security we will turn a blind eye to their wandering hands and/or their drug dealing.

    I'm not a good looking guy. Despite that three of our dancers have expressed interest in me. I can only imagine what's going to happen to the guy we just hired. I'm not into men, but even Ray Charles could see he's attractive.
    Well, you have a great sense of humor!


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