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    Feel free to add to this....

    * Keep your schedule private & only known to your assistant/safety contact (if that.) A girl in my area ratted out another girl to LE (told them what sandwich shop she would be at & what the girl's SUV looked like.) IF you are detained by LE keep silent & call your attorney as soon as possible.

    * If you do outcalls CHECK the entire house/apartment- ask for a "walk around" to make sure there are no hidden people or guns. (Of course text your location to your safety contact.) Keep your cell phone in your pocket.

    * Always bring your own protection & check to make sure its still on.... Some guys will deliberately sabotage condoms to get them to tear, or pull them off when you are not looking.

    * Leave your work bag by the door- if you need to leave suddenly, you can just grab it and go. I always carry a purse or one tote.

    * Wear a baseball cap when you drive. It reduces the likelihood of being recognized. (BTW tinted windows are illegal in many states so it's easier to wear a dumb hat sometimes than to waste money on tint you might have to remove.)

    * If a guy/Sugar Daddy buys you a plane ticket, get info on him too (not too hard with Google & the natural lameness of a guy wanting to get some.)
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    Sorry for intruding on this thread but I have to say I can't believe in 2016 that this is still necessary. Unbelievable.
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    * If you discover someone is following you on foot, go to somewhere with a lot of people (gas station, coffeeshop) & tell the clerk. They usually offer to call the police. If you feel you don't want to involve police, just stay where other people are until you feel it is safe to leave.

    * If someone is following you in a vehicle, go directly to a police station, a firehouse or a hospital (police frequently use the same Bay entrance as the ambulances & ER staff.) If you have a phone call someone to come help. If you don't have a phone wait until you can ask a bystander for help.

    * Use Google to comb the Internet for pics of yours that might be stolen, or info about you that you may need to know about. Using the Internet to scam & slam is a common practice for every industry these days.

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    If you don't want to be eye fucked by the hotel staff, don't book through third party sites. Pay full price. Or use your points. Why? Because you can afford it and ... peace of mind. If you sign up for the hotel rewards program you can stack points.

    Don't look like you'll be swinging on Tom's dick at 7 when you check in. Keep it classy. When in doubt, the no-makeup soccer mom look works. I wear a fake wedding ring (looks real ) got it from the beauty supply store for $10 i think and I almost always flash it at check-in. The goal is for hotel staff to not suspect you of hooking.

    Don't bring protection if you don't know how to use it. Been doing this 7 years now and have never carried protection. If you screen like your life depended on it, chances are - you'll be fine.

    You don't have to steal towels from housekeeping. You can simply ask the night shift for more towels. The chances are it isn't the same person that saw you check in so you're good.

    Stop telling clients your life story and Busty Bertha won't know your whole shit. These guys talk too damn much.

    Stick to outcalls to upscale hotels only if you can. I once had a guy convince me to visit him at his residence, he told me his wife died of cancer - guess who walked in?

    Use Safeoffice.com. And don't just take, contribute. We need more hotel reviews on Safe Office.

    Always google "prostitution sting" + (city name) before traveling.

    I've found that it's wise to have one at home persona and one touring persona. It'll keep the stalking down to a minimum.

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    - Always check ID even if they have P411, date-check or TER whitelist if they resist walk away it's not worth it.
    - If you're doing an outcall make sure there aren't a bunch of dirty shoe print in the hotel bathroom and coffee cups. Also if they say they are visiting town ask to see their airplane ticket stub or luggage tags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbsmgirl View Post

    ........Don't look like you'll be swinging on Tom's dick at 7 when you check in. Keep it classy.

    .........Stop telling clients your life story and Busty Bertha won't know your whole shit.
    Lol!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by fbsmgirl View Post
    Stick to outcalls to upscale hotels only if you can. I once had a guy convince me to visit him at his residence, he told me his wife died of cancer - guess who walked in?
    wow, that would suck...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Feel free to add to this....

    * Keep your schedule private & only known to your assistant/safety contact (if that.) A girl in my area ratted out another girl to LE (told them what sandwich shop she would be at & what the girl's SUV looked like.) IF you are detained by LE keep silent & call your attorney as soon as possible.
    Sorry if this is a silly question.. How can a girl get arrested for going to a sandwich shop? Some girls have their faces showing in their ads so anywhere they go they can be recognized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penny25 View Post
    Sorry if this is a silly question.. How can a girl get arrested for going to a sandwich shop? Some girls have their faces showing in their ads so anywhere they go they can be recognized.
    yeah seemed like a lot is going on in that story that's missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penny25 View Post
    Sorry if this is a silly question.. How can a girl get arrested for going to a sandwich shop? Some girls have their faces showing in their ads so anywhere they go they can be recognized.
    It sounded like the rat girl got busted & "rolled over" on the girl who was tracked down at the sandwich shop. The sandwich shop girl put photos of her arrest papers on a (now defunct) forum so yes it was true- some snitch had given a bunch of info to LE to go arrest that girl....which is why you work alone.

    Also yes, filter what you tell hobbyists. Some of these guys gossip worse than women & unfortunately it's the same BS as strip clubs- if someone hates you they will use personal info against you.

    Any girl should not show her full face in ads. A girl can argue that someone Photoshopped her in ads/pics for extortion, but sadly extortion scams are common just with hacked/stolen pics from non-adult industry women. There are a lot of wormy people out there.

    Other important tip- don't carry loads of condoms with you- have small packet of maybe 4-5 especially if you work in a high-risk area. In most states a huge stash of condoms is enough Probable Cause for an arrest.

    A no-brainer- put a lock code on your Smartphone. IF you are arrested your phone will be seized and kept. If you are detained LE WILL look through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbsmgirl View Post
    Stick to outcalls to upscale hotels only if you can. I once had a guy convince me to visit him at his residence, he told me his wife died of cancer - guess who walked in?
    Re- guys who lie about everything- I learned through hard life experience that men can be as conniving & cruel in lies as women can be. & Men with misogyny issues have carefully crafted stories to get them to where they get what they want (sex.)

    So take everything a hobby guy says to you with a huge grain of salt until he proves otherwise. The majority of my clients are decent human beings. But I'm not gonna lie, I've dealt with some scumbags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    A no-brainer- put a lock code on your Smartphone. IF you are arrested your phone will be seized and kept. If you are detained LE WILL look through it.

    I can't think of anyone who doesn't lock their phones these days. Anyone know if LE is able to get in them anyway? I'm sure they can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    I can't think of anyone who doesn't lock their phones these days.
    I've seen people skip lockcodes as timesavers or if they let their kids play games on their phone.

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    If you use Uber, don't use your real name. Last thing you want is the driver rolling the window down saying, Hi are you _____?

    If you use google voice, make sure it's from a new separate email address and not your personal email

    Be cautious about having the FB app on your phone, if you must, make sure sync contacts is off

    Go through ALL the privacy settings on all your social media accounts

    If you use FB to look up phone numbers or screen clients in any way, create a separate profile (and use a private browser) to help avoid getting any unwanted "people you may know" popups on your personal account

    Your character should have a fake personal backstory just in case you get asked personal questions so that you aren't put on the spot and can share just enough
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    My friend is an escort and she would call me and speak loud enough for the customers to hear the conversation of her checking in with me. She did this so the customers know she has people who knows where she is.

    She also has google alerts for police stings in the local area.

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    New warning...I'm starting to notice a pattern of behavior with certain hobbyists & guys I initate contact with online. Basically they find ways to lull you into a string of communication (text, email or a phone call)....then it becomes apparent they won't book an appointment. As time passes you'll get a sense of when a guy is doing this. My opinion is some of these guys subscribe to the teachings of Pick Up Artists & try to use the tactics on pros (hahaha) or they are long term hobby guys who " know the game". I can elaborate on this issue when I'm not in my phone...but... basically when your escorting reg stops seeming sincere or seems to be messing with you...It's time for him to go...

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    ^^ just to add about PUA - I think it's important for all sex workers to learn about PUA techniques as they are used a lot more commonly than we like to think. Some clients will use game in order to seduce an escort into a personal relationship (read: free sex) but at the very least try to get free time/discounted time or services not offered.

    Just off the top of my head some of the warning signs you might be dealing with a client who uses game or a PUA posing as a client:

    He has an amazing ability to create rapport. He manufactures the chemistry more than you do. They will try to appear as non-threatening, more as a friend than a seducer.

    He "negs" you. A backhanded insult, usually at your appearance but could also be at your work, used to make you feel insecure so that you will need to prove your worth to him. Typically men need to prove their worth to women so this turns the tables and puts men at an advantage.

    They will give you an atypical compliment. If you're used to being told your beautiful, he will tell you you're intelligent.

    He'll talk himself up, usually lies about how rich/cool he is. But the best PUA's never talk about themselves, they will always draw the attention back to you every time. You'll feel special that he wants to know you for who you are.

    Mirroring/NLP - he'll copy your body language and use the same words you use. This is to create instant rapport.

    They will push boundaries in little ways. This is also an NLP technique because if a person acquiesces to the little things several times they are more likely to acqueiesce to a larger boundary breaking.

    He offers to do you favours on the third date or before. It's fine for a regular client to offer you a favour if you've built a trust bond over time (ie. they have proven they respect your boundaries), but if a new client offers their help, it's usually a manipulation tactic to either emotionally endenture you/make you feel you have a bond before any real trust has been built.

    One of these signs does not a PUA make but if you notice three or more, beware. Always assert your boundaries and cut them loose if they don't respect them.


    Books to read:

    "The Game" by Neil Strauss. A non-fiction about a socially awkward writer learning and mastering game to seduce hundreds of women. A lot of PUA techniques are discussed in it.

    "The Art of Seduction" by Robert Greene. The bible for many PUA's. (Also a great book for sex workers)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnoniCat View Post
    If you use Uber, don't use your real name. Last thing you want is the driver rolling the window down saying, Hi are you _____?

    If you use google voice, make sure it's from a new separate email address and not your personal email

    Be cautious about having the FB app on your phone, if you must, make sure sync contacts is off

    Go through ALL the privacy settings on all your social media accounts

    If you use FB to look up phone numbers or screen clients in any way, create a separate profile (and use a private browser) to help avoid getting any unwanted "people you may know" popups on your personal account

    Your character should have a fake personal backstory just in case you get asked personal questions so that you aren't put on the spot and can share just enough
    I gave up using UBER since they saved my travel history. Imagine someone check your Uber rides and see all the destinations were hotels.

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    ^^^perhaps mix in some "regular" transports so if someone happened to see your travel history it wouldn't look as questionable?
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    Ad_Astra covered what I wanted to say about PUA bullshit.

    My other safety tip (forgive me if I am repeating anything I mentioned upthread) GET FAMILIAR with the written works of Gavin De Becker & FBI profilers (my favorite is John Douglas.) Plenty of info about criminal psychology is online (free) & most of the books that will help you are in paperback. $20 bucks of books & a couple hours of reading will help you immeasurably in learning how to read your surroundings, screen people you deal with, and reduce the likelyhood of running into trouble or harm. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

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    couldn't agree more with this one! a lot of the gentlemen just want someone to sell their pathetic stories to.. you can usually clock those types during the initial phone call.

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    * Important/depressing info regarding Marriott Hotels (a huge family of luxury hotel & extended stay suites) .....I visited a client at one in my current state & discovered the addition of the Book Of Mormon to the bedside nightstand is a national thing, not just regional to Utah (like I previously though.) So it seems this corporation adheres to the "no sex workers allowed" policy partially out of religious interference. Ugh. (My client was also wondering why I put on my hoodie sweatshirt & pulled the hood drawstring tight like Kenny on "South Park" lol...to avoid showing my face when leaving.)

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    Never rely on one site to screen - you've got to do your own homework - there have been MANY cops on P411 and it's not difficult to be verified on Date-Check either ... the internet is your friend, do a search of his email address, phone, white pages his phone, zaba search etc ... look for his linkedin. If you find his Facebook - look to see if its an aged account or something that was just thrown up within the last week or two.

    Verify him has a nice phone tracing tool and a good database of asshole clients to cross reference.

    When a client gave me a hotel and room number for an outcall I'd call the front desk and ask for him giving the wrong room number, if they say, sorry you have the incorrect room then they're doing their jobs and it's usually legit then you apologize for your error and give the correct one and go on to speak to the guy, if they put you right through regardless usually its a sting and they're been put on point that people will call and just push the call through (doesn't work for smaller hotels but lager inner cities this has saved my ass a couple of times)

    If you get a first time client doing an overnight booking and you're not usually an overnight girl - i.e. - you're an hourly girl and usually that's what most book, be extra vigilant it's super suspicious and in the North East there was a guy doing that and harming girls. Know your business norms, who and how long people usually book with you and use it to weed out suspicious bookings also.

    Always google his work number - make sure it matches completely and isn't from some dummy company that cops are using to do stings. If you have time call the number after work hours - if it rings to a switchboard then there's hope lol, if it just rings out forever then probably not legit. If someone picks up 10pm at night on the supposed main number of a company ... there's something up. Also you can call the company directory if he is established enough there as far as position within the company or he claims he has an extension and key in his name to see if he really works there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    * Important/depressing info regarding Marriott Hotels (a huge family of luxury hotel & extended stay suites) .....I visited a client at one in my current state & discovered the addition of the Book Of Mormon to the bedside nightstand is a national thing, not just regional to Utah (like I previously though.) So it seems this corporation adheres to the "no sex workers allowed" policy partially out of religious interference. Ugh. (My client was also wondering why I put on my hoodie sweatshirt & pulled the hood drawstring tight like Kenny on "South Park" lol...to avoid showing my face when leaving.)
    I wouldn't worry about that. They have had those books in the nightstand since I was a little girl. I remember seeing them on vacation...but they also have porn on pay per view so they aren't that fanatic. They Marriott family are definitely Mormons- but I know a lot of girls that do incall/outcall in Marriott hotels and have never had problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAChloe View Post
    I wouldn't worry about that. They have had those books in the nightstand since I was a little girl. I remember seeing them on vacation...but they also have porn on pay per view so they aren't that fanatic. They Marriott family are definitely Mormons- but I know a lot of girls that do incall/outcall in Marriott hotels and have never had problems.

    I've been able to avoid using them for my incall location but if I get a call to visit one I will visit- discreetly.

    On principle the whole religion thing bothers me, not to mention they have co-operated with LE in some cities. It's my freedom to withhold my business from them so I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by persianprincess View Post

    When a client gave me a hotel and room number for an outcall I'd call the front desk and ask for him giving the wrong room number, if they say, sorry you have the incorrect room then they're doing their jobs and it's usually legit then you apologize for your error and give the correct one and go on to speak to the guy, if they put you right through regardless usually its a sting and they're been put on point that people will call and just push the call through (doesn't work for smaller hotels but lager inner cities this has saved my ass a couple of times)


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