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    Hi,

    My name is Janey and I hope this is the right area for my question. If not please forgive me. ; ) I am looking for feedback from dancers, escorts and club owners.

    Short bio: I am 50 years old, a former dominatrix who opened up her own dungeon in N.E. I had many women work for/with me and eventually I retired as a Domme and just ran my business. I branched out and opened up a parallel business having to do with sensual massage and eventually (ironically at the urging of the women who I worked with) opened up an agency that represented all three areas that I was working within. I was in the industry for over a decade, in many ways loved it and was very good at it. I've had well over a hundred women who I represented and I am still very close to a few. We never got in trouble and we all made bank. I carefully screened the women who worked with me and had only the best By that I am speaking not strictly of looks. They were all attractive, intelligent and driven women who had legit goals. Like my clients I chose those that had something to lose and and so in the end we all won.

    Things change. The winds of history began a blow back towards women in the industry and almost overnight (well after the 2007 crash) sex workers became the flavor of the month as America's new boogeyman-or in this case woman. I retired, paid off all debts, bought an old bungalow fixer upper with cash and invested the rest of my dough in a legal grow co-op as well back into investments. Many in China.....lost a ton of money and now I need a new roof. So.....

    I am looking to get back into the bizz in one capacity or another. I have tons of experience, know the business, understand human nature and actually give a damn about the women's safety over profit. It's true-I would have made even more money if I were less paranoid in general.

    I am looking to do one of three things.
    1) See if I can get a job at a dance club as a "house mother" which seems to be an outdated term? Or as a manager at one of the 8 clubs around here. As dancers can you chime in on how those women got that position? Is it needed or do you resent it?
    2) I would prefer working from home as a booker for an escort agency ( I know there is not always an overlap so please don't be angry-but sometimes there IS)does anyone have any suggestions on how I could do that?
    3)I could also start my own answering service and become a private booker for individual women who simply want a buffer and don't want to deal with a client until the time comes. How do you feel about this? Is there a need?

    Thank you in advance and I will probably try and post this in any other areas that seem relevant.

    Stay safe and prosper!

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    Default Re: Advice from dancers,

    The house moms at my work that I've talked to were offered their position by the owner after they had waitressed at the club for a while and had years of experience in the industry prior to their employment. That said, they suggested treating it like any other job hunt and contacting clubs, dropping off resumes, the whole shebang.

    All that said, I've had mediocre house moms, terrible ones, and recently, some really amazing ones. The terrible ones often cock blocked and/or hustled the girls. They'd make rounds in the club, hawking 2 for 1 massage deals to the customers, and when they were in the dressing room, they would be hustling girls for tips/trying to sell them junk they didn't need, all in addition to the mandetory tip the club required dancers give them at the end of their shift, whether they used her services or not.

    It obviously depends a lot on the club you work in -- some clubs treat house moms like employees, and others lump them in the same boat as dancers, where they pay a fee to set up their shop for the day. In the latter case, it obviously make sense that the hm would want the guaranteed buffer of being included in mandetory tip out, just in case they don't make anything else that day. Even so, it can create some resentment from the dancer end, as they're being forced to pay for something they often neither want or need. Or dancers would require her services, but she would either not have the product they needed, or they would be clueless in the matter the dancer was asking about. Even if it is understandable, there's lots of room or resentment in that model. In the employee case, mandetory tip out is probably a bad idea, especially if your goal is to do it "right."

    The best house mom I've ever had: she has everything dancers might need. Super glue, rubber cement, a huge tub of hair driers, crimpers, curling irons, and straighteners; a table that's always full of food, healthy and otherwise, but at least there's the option. Mouth wash, floss, spray deodorant, hair spray, rubbing alcohol, baby wipes, tampons of various strengths, tums/aleve/various over the counter medicines, Bobby pins, bandaids... And a "closet" she sold shoes, accessories, and outfits from at a fair price. Aside from items in the store, everything was "free" (for the dancers) and tip out was optional. She was paid as an employee, so whether or not she was tipped out at all that day, she was guaranteed to leave with money. Removing the focus of money can also minimize the opportunity for corruption a little, according to her. I can vouch, she treats everything and everyone professionally and as equally as humanly possible. Whether she likes or seriously dislikes a girl is irrelevant to her job. She's amazing consistent and honest with rock solid integrity. That alone makes her a great person to work with anyway, but in an environment as potentially volatile as a dressing room, those traits are especially important in making a good house mom.

    More than anything, though, the fact that tip out is optional for her is probably the biggest surface thing in avoiding resentment. She stays in her assigned office in the dressing room, so she's not out hustling customers and under cutting/cock blocking dancers' money, and she doesn't hustle the girls. If they need something, she's there, and if they feel so inclined (which the vast majority do) they can tip her at the end of the night. If they don't, though, she doesn't play favorites. Whether you tip her or not, she keeps it friendly and professional. The end result is dancers liking her enough that they tip her regardless of whether they used her services that day. It's more a respect thing than anything -- she's incredibly respectful of us, and that earns her a lot of respect in return. In her case, having a house mom is definitely worth it. Even if *I* came to work prepared and don't need her at all, there might be a less than stable dancer who comes in who might've started drama or shaken things up on the floor a bit, but ultimately didn't because she handled it in a way where the calm was maintained and everyone was the happier for it. Or maybe a newbie dancer was being clueless -- the house mom can set her straight before she does any real damage that effects anyone else's money.

    In short, if you go in with the primary motivation being to make as much money as possible that day, dancers are probably going to resent you. If you go in with the idea that you might only get paid what the club gives you, and you're otherwise there to be of service to the girls if they need it, and otherwise not bother them or get in the way of their money, you'll probably have a lot better luck when it comes to building a positive relationship with them. Ultimately, that might result in more tips, and if nothing else, a much better working environment than you'd have otherwise. Again though, it all depends on the structure of the club you get hired at. Optional tip out might not be an option for you, in which case, I'd just say to do the best you can within the situation. If people are going to be tipping you no matter what, try and make sure it's not for nothing.

    Good luck!

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    Default Re: Advice from dancers,

    WOW!!!! Thank you very much. This was invaluable information and I appreciate your knowledge and generosity. The HM gig seems pretty iffy but I will take your advice re: approaching it as I would any other jobs-with a resume etc...Just need to figure out if I should use my real name, proper euphemisms etc...

    May I ask you ( or anyone else that wishes to chime in) what is your opinion of private screeners, bookers and personal assistants. Would you use them? Why or why not? I am beginning to think that may be a more valid route.

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