
Originally Posted by
ez87
Long time lurker on SW but I never said anything before.
My no alcohol SC has a clean reputation online. My SC has VIP, but it is strictly for LDing AFAIK, not hanging out (it isnt a CR type place). I've never gotten a proposal for extras in VIP, other SCs in my area are a bit more dirty. My goal is a fantasy or real BF/GF experience, but I never ask for what I want, either a dancer and me have chemistry the 1st time, or we dont. I don't ever suggest OTC either. Out of 30 strippers over 11 months at that SC, I've gotten 3 that gave me a GF experience without me asking for it but no orgasm or completion on the first time I ever "meet" them ITC, and they continued the GF experience on the floor and on subsequent visits. All 3 eventually suggest OTC to me. I am 29. All 3 strippers are 28 or 29 years old.
1st one, she asked to go out with her for food after her shift on a different day. We did, we split the bill, and the date was "just friends". I got to know her real name, her family member and baby daddy names, her criminal record, and pretty much everything about her life from the "just friend" date. #1 would spend every free minute with me ITC for one 15 minute VIP session. When #1 saw a new customer, or I let her know if one came in, she would get up and go do the "wanna dance", usually get denied, and come back right to me in a couple minutes. I got 15 minutes in VIP, and 3-6 hours of sitting on me and talking on the main floor for just $70-$80 to her (dancer's cut of VIP+tip after VIP). This happened 5 times over 2 months. #1 eventually suddenly stopped the GF experience in VIP (keeps face away from mine, blocks and moves my hands while shaking her head at me) and goes back to regular SC LD experience, I asked what changed, she said I never tipped her enough, she wont make out for $50 and I am taking advantage of her because I am cheap. I let her have the last word and ignore her now.
#2 is a very talented, multi pronged sex worker. From lurking on SW for a while, and going to many SCs, I've never met someone like her (4'10", size 0), but also so scary to be with. Except for porn, she uses her real name everywhere else. Her IG sells that she is a stripper, who trys anything to be famous. In her 10 years since as a sex worker, she has done
-stripping
-BDSM escort (she showed me pics of her male "clients" and talked about what each of them likes done to them)
-alternative modeling
-non adult movie extra
-Spike's Ink Master
-her DJ career at regular night clubs
-porn actress for only a couple months
-current porn producer (clips4sale), I hear her voice tell the girls what to do
-making clothes (etsy)
-SC recruiter ("let me introduce you to my friends, I invited them here")
-has an associates degree as a chef
-works on and off as a cook for a Michelin star restaurant (she occasionally shows me burns on her hands and arms from her "other job", she once LD me wearing silk gloves due to stiches on one of her fingers)
-writes restaurant reviews for a local blog (no sex worker hints)
-has a YT channel with her cooking videos (no sex worker hints)
-refuses to use any drugs but sells drugs in my SC to other strippers who sell it to customers
Miss Jack of all Trades, aka #2, I got a couple VIP session, once a month, with her before #1. #2 physically wanted me to eat her out in VIP every time I went, but I refused for health/moral reasons until after #1 expired. I did kiss her inner thighs to play along with her eating out thing but never went high enough to exchange fluids. She enjoyed the thigh kissing. The first time ever I VIPed with #2, she mentioned "lets go for coffee" and "I want to take you home with me". I didn't say anything back to her assuming it was nonsense. The next couple VIPs there was no mention of OTC, but again physical eating her out offers that I refused to pursue. After #1 expired, I tried to see if #2 will actually let me eat her out or was it just a tease. I lick her clit and she laughs and pushes my head off saying she is "too sensitive", gets up and straddles me again. She now nose bumps me, knowing there is a chance, I do 1 kiss, she leans back shocked for a second, smiles and looks at me, leans over back to my face and kiss me again, I french kiss, and her mouth and tongue agree. After 30 seconds of french kissing, she changes positions, grinds more, then changes back, I try french kissing her again, this time after a few seconds, she pushes me off, and tells me we cant make out in the club (false, as #1 has zero problems doing it), and she wants to fuck me in a hotel room for free. Rest of VIP time is spent discussing STDs, when we got STD test and the results, do you use condoms, what kinds of sex and positions /we like, standard partner interview things. After VIP, she sits with me and we go through trip advisor to pick a hotel. She wants to go straight to a hotel to fuck, I refuse and demand we go for food first (she makes me, a guy, very uncomfortable for robbery or non-consensual sex). She initially says just a hotel or its a no, but eventually agrees to food then a hotel. Just to make sure she isnt making it up, I dont do it the next day with her, I say I have work scheduled the rest of the week, and I can do it next week (I have to schedule a day off, but I didn't tell her that). I come it on monday the next week, we pick a hotel but are undecided on where to eat, she gets $10 of stage tips on monday. I agree I'll pick her up at her apartment 2 days later around noon, she says yes. I text her the night before our "date" if she is still up for it, she immediately responds with "yes". I then ask her where to pick her up, and she never responds. The next day late morning and through the middle of the day I text her 1 per hour, she never responds. Obviously it was never meant to be since she blocked my number right after her "yes" text.
A couple days later, I'm back in my SC, I ignore #2 since I was stood up and she makes no attempt to communicate with me except eventually that night #2 walks over to my chair and tells me a snarky joke based on my last text (which means she read it), smiles, turns around and walks away. I assume I was played. She ignored me since then. I still can't figure out what her MO was. Was this a long hustle to ban me as a customer and stop the high mileage VIP room session with distractive talking about OTC? Was I supposed to offer $ or a "gift" for fucking?
Knowing #2 expired. I then meet #3. Learning my lession from #1, I've never tipped #3 anything. Again as with #1, standard small talk, then unexpected unasked "passionate lovers" in VIP like in a movie. This time she talks about wanting to fuck me right now in the club, I ignore it as nonsense. 1 week later, we meet again at the SC, she asks if I am single, I say yes (I really am). Same night, now on 2nd VIP session again, completely like BF/GF again, but after VIP while #3 worked another customer, a first time working as a stripper, 20 year old stripper came and sat with me. We hit it off as friends immediately. She is the same major in college that I took and she knew industry words that are only possible if she was actually that major. I gave her the $ for 2 drinks to spend an hour with me on the floor (I'd rather give the $ directly, if she wants to walk upto the bar or pocket it, its her choice). The next day #3 texts me randomly if I liked newbie stripper. Exactly like a jealous GF would have. I texted #3 that I dont want to get LDs from 20 year old stripper, or get her number, but it was the college major and $20 on why newbie stripper sat with me.
A few days later #3 texts me to come to the club on sat, but she tells me by text she that I dont need to buy LDs if I dont want to from her, but to come anyway. I come and buy non-alco drinks (no alcohol in this club) for her and her friend. They get $1 per drink in commission. I spend 1 hour with #3 ITC talking with her and her ITC stripper friend on saturday night. She got a total $7 from me that night through drink sales only. She suggests going out with me /a couple days later when she is free in the middle of the week. I agree with a "yeah lets should do that". I text her monday, she goes silent when I propose a day to meet. On thu she texts me to come to the SC, I say am at work and I can't because I have to plan a day or 2 in advance my shifts. I ask her on sat if she will be at my SC, she at first decided to goto her other SC, then flipped to my SC some hours later.
For my 4th SC visit with her on sat, 3rd in VIP, we closed lip kiss once, she stops me, and says she wants to drink and pulls out a bottle of liquor from her stripper bag (this is a no alcohol club), she and I then take alternative swallows from it, make out a bit, then she stops and wants to talk and worries about the camera and the rules and if she will be fired if we fuck in the club. The alcohol in her stripper bag alarmed me but I hide it from her, since on her IG 3 days earlier she said she has been sober 1 week and gave up alcohol. She gets back ontop of me grinds for a few seconds then stops. She asks me if I think she is a "prostitute" for wanting to fuck me. I tell her no, I just like her, and want to really know her. She then tells me she wants to go out with me and tells me she can't take my money anymore in the club if we will go out and will I cheat on her and what kind of BF I will be. I tell her my LTR GF history very quickly and said I never cheat and I wouldn't be in a SC if a I had a GF. We then make out some more. She stops and resting her forehead on mine, noses touching, looking in each others eyes, with her hand on the back of my head and my hand on the back of her head, asks me why I dont say anything to her when we kiss, and why I wont talk dirty to her. I tell her "I am thinking of something but I just got to know you, and its not appropriate for me to say it to you like this in the club", she tells me to just say it, the alcohol in me is making me not make much sense, I whisper in her ear "I love you" and instantly tell her "I'm sorry, it was an accident" knowing I shouldve never said that when $ is involved. Her response is, "yeah, dont say it to me yet, it takes time to really mean it". We keep making out, then she stops again and asks me if I am willing to be her BF to her parents even though we wont be getting married, since she can't date regular guys because they dump her when she tells them her job, I say yes. She asks if I can keep her being a stripper secret, I said yes, because she has to keep it a secret from my friends if we will be a couple. #3's IG and facebook make no hints she is a stripper. She tells me her parents dont know she dropped out of university and was stripping ever since and she simply says she switches majors on why shes been "going to school" for 10 years. She also tells me, if we will be a couple, if she decides goes to school for real, we will have to stop seeing each other since she wont have time for me, I agree to that condition. I asked her why she stayed silent when I asked her last week, she said "you asked me when you could see in me in the club, you didn't ask me out on a date but I wanted you to", that wasn't true (she went silent, then a few days later told me to come to the SC), but I didn't debate it.
After VIP, we sit and talk and she wants to do a double date with her, her stripper friend and for me to find a guy friend. No discussion of $. I tell her my only best guy friend is married and it isn't possible. She tells me an attempted rape story by another customer who gave her a ride home and she quit my SC for a year since management had no reason to ban him from the SC and it was too tramatic to see him ITC. I say I wouldn't ever do that, and I want go have food or go see a movie with her first before we consider anything more. We discuss what neighborhoods we live in, and its slightly far, and that her stripper friend lives in the neighborhood next to mine and when #3 visits stripper friend at stripper friend's apt and sleeps there, #3 wants me to come over to stripper friend's neighborhood and that is the perfect chance for #3 and me to spend time together in stripper friend's neighborhood. #3 then says for us to go on a date on Tuesday just me and #3 alone. I text her today (Monday) about going on a date, she says "I'm sorry, I'm busy all week". I want to think "I'm sorry, I'm busy all week" means "no chance in hell I'll ever see you" but I'd like to think differently of course.
I really don't know anymore what to do with #3. Does #3 only likes me when she is drunk (I can't tell she is drunk)? Is #3 the most complicated ITC hustle ever to get me to spend on her ITC?
#1 did GFE for 5 sessions, with one "just friends" OTC and went through with it. #2 stopped in the middle of GFE VIP session #1 and tried to negotiate "fuck buddy" OTC in VIP, then stood me up and was nasty about it next time ITC. #3 did 2 GFE VIP sessions, and keeps talking about OTC dating since the 1st session but went overboard in session #3. But when challenged the 1st time went silent by text, and 2nd time said by text "I'm sorry, I'm busy all week". Both #2 and #3 killed the action or "fun" by engaging in OTC discussions with me in the VIP room. Did I answer something wrong during the OTC interview for #2 and #3? Did I simply fail to offer $ or a big enough tip for #3? or the OTC discussions were a hustle with #2 or #3 to stop the high mileage make out/masturbation sessions that were exceeding the typical boundaries at my SC? I really want a stripper perspective on the "OTC talk to stop a high mileage LD" idea.
I know actions speak louder than words in the strip club world. If #3 and I hooked up for free by now, she clearly is my GF and I wouldn't be on SW. #3 is confusing the hell out of me. Either go out with me and we are a couple, or do your job in VIP and let me have the freedom to pick any stripper I want any time in my SC without talking about cheating and jealously and "why you looking at her?" and how we would be a couple. Do you girls know how I can make #3 make up her mind if she wants a professional ITC relationship or a OTC relationship? This talking about OTC without going through OTC thing is getting old, especially in the VIP room where instead of grinding, I'm getting talking. Either give me GFE in VIP but give me freedom to pick strippers, let me know I can't have GFE in VIP, or let me know you want real GF/BF and not fantasy. This is getting annoying for me. #3 is wasting my time since I used to always keep 2-3 strippers on my list, and #3 is blocking me with this BF/GF talk from talking to anyone else ITC.
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