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    I dont know if I should post this, if it is not appropriate, please delete.
    It just bugs me so much. So I have a member account on yes, SM, LOL whats new
    I have it mainly to check on my stream and to be honest I was also curious to what it looks like from a members perspective.
    And Yes, I tip models (sometimes).Never went private, not my thing lol
    First of all I dont have the time to watch other models too much. But when I do and I like what I see, I tip. Of course liking" what you see" is very subjective. Sometimes I tip just because I know how its like to sit there and not get a tip. I understand. Im in the same boat. My biggest tip was 90$ for a gold show. ( I know, not that much but still I think its decent). She started the gold show and I told her I dont need to watch and I left.She did not know I was a model.
    I never ever say anything disrespectful to the model or her members. I'd never do that, Im a nice person. If I say something I either compliment the model, or say nothing at all.

    So recently I went in this one model's room. At a point she started a gold show and no, I did not tip but I was telling the guys in there to tip. Is that a bad thing? So then she said she would ban me( I assume because I was not tipping ) so I left.
    The end. Total time spent in her room, under 5 minutes.
    Of course I am never going back to her room because my feelings are hurt. How weird is that? Im dead serious.
    If this is how it feels to tell a member " Im going to ban u" ( for no major reason) then I am not saying it ever again!

    Im not even sure what the purpose of this thread/post is... just needed to say it.
    I just dont know what to make out of this.

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    Well...I wouldn't take it personal. I allowed one chick to "mod" for me on my practice site once, and while she was sweet and the "hey guys tip the pretty girl" thing was nice and she did help me land a private - I decided to never go that route again with "mods". I like to run my rooms the way I like to run them, having someone else say "tip them pay them don't be cheap" puts pressure on people I may not want to pressure. Some of us like controling our own "flow" in a room, or like to keep the illusion that it's mainly "for fun" somwtimes....

    She probably could have just nicely asked you to stop or sent you a PM, but she may have interpreted your intended gesture of support as an act of agressive pressuring or attempt to hassle the custs. In the room.

    *shrugs* I wouldn't sweat it.
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    Well, one thing that annoys the shit out of me, is when a member is encouraging others to tip and he doesn't tip a single cent.
    Those members who like to watch on others money are the most annoying.
    If you want to make others react, you gotta do it first.
    I don't know if you feel the same (from the model perspective), but the girl was all right when she said she is going to ban you.
    All members consider themselves nice and all get hurt when we ask them to do their part of the deal of being on site.
    If she knew you were a model, probably this wouldn't happen. She just thought you are a broke perv, like all other dudes who usually do this.
    As a member, when you are on alive paying site, you gotta pay. No model needs cheerleaders.
    I don't see the "hurt feelings".
    I got my feelings hurt too as a model, when the member tells me to show him a preview of my private or, show something before private.
    Or when he considers chatting forever in public chat is free.
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    I do tell members that I will ban them if they are not tipping, but I normally give them a reason why. If it was a gold show, she prob was clearing the room of all freeloaders out of respect for the paying members. I get it. but it should be expressed. Something we can all be mindful of I suppose.

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    Well, I don´t ban people for not tipping, but I get how frustrating can it be someone cheering up to others and not tipping himself, like if myself wasn´t enough to entertain and earn my money, beside leads me to think that he´s just being cheap and trying to get free attention I also think that kind of hustle works better on sites like MFC or Chaturbate as they are more like "communities" and members interact with each other, not so much on Streamate. Anyway I think you were very sweet trying to help, probably if she knew that you were a model as well she wouldn´t act that way, but you know and she knows and all of us know that we see every day every possible way to get freebies, and some girls may get a little drastical

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    What others said, u looked like a broke/ cheap guy asking others to tip but not tipping urself, when this happens in my room i get irritated and consider the person lame, this behavior is not well received in my room


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    Quote Originally Posted by imelly21 View Post
    At a point she started a gold show and no, I did not tip but I was telling the guys in there to tip. Is that a bad thing? So then she said she would ban me( I assume because I was not tipping ) so I left.
    The end. Total time spent in her room, under 5 minutes.
    Yes, it is tacky to sit in a model's room telling other members to tip. Don't do that. I HATE it when guys on MFC do this...especially when they're not tipping. I (as a model) would tell you to knock it off, and I would've banned you if you continued to do it. These guys don't need someone else telling them what to do with their tokens (or GOLD), and you could actually cause that model to lose some of her viewers when you act like that. Who wants to stay in a chat room where some other person is demanding other people to tip?
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    Oh I thought the person KNEW you were a model.
    Yeah I'd tell someone to stop if they were a customer
    telling other customers to pay - unless it was like a
    "goal to show" on CB where they'd already tipped themselves.
    I still wouldn't take it personal or let yourself be bothered by it.

    (Side note: This kind of thing actualy happens at my work a lot, cruiserss in the hall
    telling others to "find a room" or telling people in the booth to put money in" - lol
    A: if they themselves were in a room they couldn't tell others to get in one.
    B: if they were in a room paying they wouldn't be abke to tell others to pay the room.
    C: that's MY fucking job. So I tell them to stop or they are 86'd (banned if you will) lol)
    Old enough to know better, too young to care.

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    Default Re: "Im going to ban u"

    My answer remains the same whether I know the person's a fellow cam girl or not. Now maybe you have model friends who are okay with you talking to their members like that, and in that case I guess it's fine. Otherwise just don't do it. Don't be that person that comes across as bossy and a tad aggressive. This very thing has actually been mentioned as a pet peeve for many cam girls (especially on MFC).

    Not trying to be harsh with you, by the way. Just figured I'd let you know what's up, so you know better for future reference. *Hug*
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    I read all the replies. Thank you and lesson learnt. But, just one more thing: sometimes members, women or men,models or not, don't or can't tip right away. Sometimes It takes more than 5 minutes, 50 minutes or 5 days. And I was not aggressive when I told others to tip. I said something along the lines"come on, guys, tip, she is beautiful". I was not spamming her. I probably said it twice.
    I'll get over it.
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    I made a jackass a helper once for like 10 mins just to prove a point and to tell him how much he sucks at modding since he was trying to run my room. I thought he would run away and never come back but ironically, he is now a decent reg and tipper.
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    As a model, do you know what I'd appreciate more than tips? It is for other models to stay out of my room unless I was expecting you. I just find it so intrusive...
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    You would be really butthurt in my room. I ban for all kinds of reasons. And it's an automatic ban if you say you're a model. People can tell me all kinds of things in my room, that they're santa clause or the tooth fairy. So how do I know if they are who they say they are? Now if say someone came in c2c for you know less than a minute and let me know I'd be slower on the trigger.

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    If you have money and you don't know on what to spend them. Let me know. )

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    Its been a while now since this happened, so I'll share this one. We had a model on Streamate that just couldn't seem to figure out why her earnings were bad and thought it might be something technical. One day I actually saw her online and told my hubby to go check her out. He logged into our perv account to visit her room, drop a few tags, and make sure all her little "symbols" for HD, audio, etc were functioning and if the camera feed didn't skip. Standard things and we have a pretty quick list of issues to look for.

    He popped in her room and started poking around going down the mental checklist. In under 15 seconds she says "Fucking Freeloader" and bans him from the room. He calls me from the next room saying, "Babe, I think I found the issue."

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    My rule of thumb is to ban quietly...don't feed the trolls, don't bring down the atmosphere of the room...just ninja ban. I think it's in bad taste no matter how you're running your room (party, classic, gold, etc.)

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    I may have the most unpopular opinion here but the way I deal with trolls is this: they are human beings too. There are ones that are completely psychotic and beyond conversion help and those of course, I just ban right away. But, I don't ignore anyone anymore. Why should a troll have the power to silence me?? Fuck that shit. I want all my other dudecusties to know how amazingly I can handle shit talkers. I am not going to act cowardly in front of my fans. It makes me more powerful and attractive when I take matters into my own hands.

    There are ways to deal with trolls without feeding them and yet, getting back at them easily. Make them your ammunition. Don't get childish, angry or defensive because that's what they want. Instead turn it around, acknowledge their presence and then make them feel foolish for saying utter garbage. The underlying respect you have for all human beings is always in place. Soon, the rest of the room will come to your defense. Men love a "damsel in distress". Men love sass and men especially love being put in their place by a self-confident bitch.
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    Regarding banning, i never directly ban people who dont talk, i give them time to type something, i know some are looking at my pictures & cant see the chat, some might read reviews, etc, after a few attempts of making them talk (text & audio) i just kick them after let's say 5 minutes of no talking, i only ban for good people who are offensive & i do it quietly; i sometimes might cuss on them 'softcore' or show middle finger, wait a few secs to make sure they heard/ saw me and ban for good if they been really offensive and i know for sure i dont want them in my room again, in rest i kick them out, they might return behaving better.

    Also, when a guest comes into my room and says she is a girl i automatically feel uncomfy, i am not bi so it's kinda odd a girl would approach me, i automatically think it's a model or a guy, just this week this person said to me she was a girl and 'if i can tease her in free then pvt' HA! typical guy behavior and told him he's a guy actually, he buggered off instantly.
    Over the years i had several models in my room on all sites i cammed on and i never felt comfy talking to them, in fact i dont even know if they were models or not, maybe they were guys trying to get closer to me thinking i'll open up to them and share my things about work, etc, never the less the idea of knowing another model is in my room makes me feel uneasy, i many times felt i was talking with women/models pretending to be guys, they picked on me for things only women would look at lol.
    Anyway, dont be hurt melly, this is mostly a normal reaction of a performer trying to do her thing and gets irritated by others telling the room to tip lol, as i said, it just sounds lame even ur intention was to help. xx

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    I can understand the butthurt. I usually don't talk to other models in their rooms because I know there are many ways it can come across. (They may think you are advertising, it may be distracting, etc, etc.) Finally one day I said something to one of my favorite models (in tip note when I tipped her). She said, "Don't advertise in my room." I was not broadcasting myself at the time, and I felt like none of her viewers would know I was a model because I didn't bring attention to myself. It felt weird about it, but I understand, and that is her prerogative.
    You have to remember, we always have our defenses up. We deal with a lot of rudeness and douchebaggery. Someone might be the nicest person ever with the best intentions, but you can't tell that when all you see is a screen name, and you learn not to expect the best from viewers when you deal with so much negativity.
    It does look bad, though, when a non-tipper is encouraging others to tip. I feel like it probably discourages tippers from tipping. Even if they are a regular tipper, and not tipping that day, there are probably new people in your room who will be put off by it. Hands down, the best way to encouraging tipping IS to tip. They see others spending, they think that the goal you set for your gold show or whatever is reachable, that they won't be the only one contributing, etc, and it can snowball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imelly21 View Post
    I read all the replies. Thank you and lesson learnt. But, just one more thing: sometimes members, women or men,models or not, don't or can't tip right away. Sometimes It takes more than 5 minutes, 50 minutes or 5 days. And I was not aggressive when I told others to tip. I said something along the lines"come on, guys, tip, she is beautiful". I was not spamming her. I probably said it twice.
    I'll get over it.
    I can't speak for everyone else, because what I do/don't tolerate might be something that another model DOESN'T or DOES allow. I just know that the ONLY time I'd be okay with you telling my members "Come on...tip her" is if you're talking to some jerk who is demanding a free flash or something from me. In that case, hey, I don't care if you feel like chiming in with a "Tip her" remark.

    So unless you're talking to one specific person who's demanding I "Show ass, bb," just please refrain from telling other people what to do with their tokens. And when I said "aggressive," I wasn't actually talking about yelling/screaming aggressive. I simply meant the fact that you're giving other people orders. Maybe 'aggressive' wasn't the right word...'bossy' or 'demanding' maybe.
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    You became the "non tipping hype man" that a lot of models can't stand. I wouldn't take it to heart because you meant well, but on her end she just sees a member telling other people to tip but not tipping them self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imelly21 View Post
    Sometimes It takes more than 5 minutes, 50 minutes or 5 days.

    If someone has been freeloading in my room for 50 minutes they will defiantly get kicked out, if someone freeloads in my room for 5 days they will probably get banned.
    I agree with your point that sometimes it takes spenders some time to decide but THAT TIME is time I could be spending hustling other guys, most like GUYS WHO WANT TO SPEND NOW. A guy who needs 5 days of freeloading to decide he is gonna spend isn't the kinda customer I am after. I want guys who know what they want and I find the biggest spenders for me personally are the guys who take me to a show right away or ask me like 1 or 2 questions just to make sure I do the kinda show they want. Your hustle/room is probably different but thats how it goes for me.

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    I DO chat occasionally with other models, but only if I've been creeping on them and feel like its about time I pay up for the entertainment I'm deriving watching them while I'm not logged on. I do say I'm a model I never mention who I am unless they ask, and generally I just tip, tell them I have been creeping and thought they were great, tell them thank you and leave unless they sound like they are willing to chat. Also, I never do this during a gold show countdown. They are in full hustle mode at that point and I in no way want them to be thrown off their game (and I want to make sure they get my tip no matter what).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitcatt View Post
    I DO chat occasionally with other models, but only if I've been creeping on them and feel like its about time I pay up for the entertainment I'm deriving watching them while I'm not logged on. I do say I'm a model I never mention who I am unless they ask, and generally I just tip, tell them I have been creeping and thought they were great, tell them thank you and leave unless they sound like they are willing to chat. Also, I never do this during a gold show countdown. They are in full hustle mode at that point and I in no way want them to be thrown off their game (and I want to make sure they get my tip no matter what).
    You sound cool as hell. That's the way to do it!!!

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    I hardly ban anyone for not tipping. But it sometimes does annoy me when a member is not tipping but telling others to do so. This is because if i'm doing a gold show I'm doing a little more than normal. I am shaking my ass, pulling out my boobs, whatever is allowed, and I feel like the person telling others to tip who isn't tipping themselves is only doing so because they want to see more of the "free show" during the countdown, but can't actually watch the real show. So it pisses me off they are trying to get off to me in the free chat while others pay for it. I have had "girls" and "guys" come in and tell me they are models, but alot of time I think they lying and hoping to get something free as well, since they always say they want to "give me advice" which usually ends in them trying to control what i'm doing.

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