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    Default Re: How much would you/do you spend on an escort???

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    For real though I'd escort today if I could get some clients at 1k and hour and do multi hours. This city here though, from what guys procuring escorts tell me is they charge $80-$200. [email protected] this market. I'd probably be waiting till Christmas time and tax refund time to get clients around here.
    I don't generally dial up escorts, but I keep tabs on certain markets in order to figure out what is reasonable for OTC. In the market I now live in, there are many girls giving it up for $100 or even less, including some attractive ones. Now I certainly pay more than that for my OTC partners, but part of what I am paying for is a girl who is not advertising on places like BP. When I do find an OTC partner who is also sidelining on BP (it has happened a couple of times), inevitably for less than I paid her for OTC, I cut her out of the lineup immediately.

    But as I've kept tabs on these markets, it is amazing how rates have stayed the same or even gone down a lot over the years. I think that even girls who have positioned themselves on the higher end of the spectrum are feeling the pressure from so much cheap sex out there. There are plenty of people on this board who are more knowledgeable about this topic than I, but I can say that in my home market it has also bled into what some girls are willing to accept for OTC, though tht may also be a function of suffering clubs.

    Anyway, just my if it is even worth that much.

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    On the lady side of things, I would pay between 250 to 1000 for a good male escort. However, he must be an 9 or 10, intelligent, clean, and willing to freaky things. I can't see myself giving some dude off backpage 80 to 150 dollars to spend time with me. Or I can just get some hustler off Columbus who offers himself for 60 dollars for that whole night. Nope! I like treating escorts like investments. Back in the day, I would spend a good 500 dollars on a male escort but he was 9 or 10. Plus, he let me split that rate with my friend and he was the type of guy who let you put cigars out on his face for extra money. Hiring a male escort is a treat for me and I want to spend on quality. Escorts should be an investment not like treated like things from the 5 and dime store That is my two cents. However, I am not a man and their thought process is vastly different from mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDD View Post
    LOL!!! A 100 dollar hookworm but you are OCD!!! Are you a moron?
    First off, I'm not cruising streetwalkers or picking these girls up outside of crackhouses - I'm meeting them at local clubs in my area. Second, you're obviously assuming that a lower or more economical price means a less attractive or unclean woman and that simply isn't the case in my circumstances. I'm a known regular, so I get to know these girls and I'm able to be selective about who I see. Another advantage that I have that enables me to make arrangements like these, is the area that I'm in. The dancers in all of the clubs around here provide extras and there's a fairly standard rate for VIP fun. It isn't absurdly expensive and competition is high, further helping the pricing situation. The market typically determines the value.

    The evolution of my situation becomes less like a provider / client relationship and much more like a friends with benefits scenario, with the exception of when she leaves, she's leaving with more money. Additionally, neither of us is under the delusion that it's anything more than it is - a repeat business arrangement. While the initial rate for outcall may be higher, it typically changes to a more nominal rate for reasons that I've previously stated. In a nutshell: it's comfortable, we're friendly, we both end up happy and when it's over, she goes back to her life and I stay in mine.

    It would appear that between the two of us, you would, in fact, be the moron for having the inability to grasp the value of the situation. My guess is that you're a guy who's probably either unattractive, unclean, has obesity or anger issues or simply isn't savvy enough to engineer reasonably priced, mutually beneficial arrangements with attractive dancers on a regular outcall basis. I suppose I could fax you a diagram of how it works but it's not my job to give you tips on how to work it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by incognito1234 View Post
    First off, I'm not cruising streetwalkers or picking these girls up outside of crackhouses - I'm meeting them at local clubs in my area. Second, you're obviously assuming that a lower or more economical price means a less attractive or unclean woman and simply isn't the case in my circumstances.


    I can't speak for JDD

    But what I do know about people having lowest prices is that they usually have lower quality and they have to have more buyers to make the same amount as the ladies who charge more. More buyers/Customers/Clients = Higher risk for negative affects of the industry (burnout, contagious diseases, busts, etc). The ladies who are addicted to substances will be more likely to lower their rates/standards to get their drug of choice cause their addiction overrides their rational thinking. Now I'm sure there are the younger escorts who charge less because 1) they most likely only have themselves to support and fewer expenses 2) they're naive about the game and don't know their worth

    I think he's implying lower priced escorts in general are riskier. Would you pay rock bottom prices for a woman who treats her p*ssy like a McDonalds factory or would you pay more for a woman who treats her p*ssy like a 5 star restaurant?

    Also, you do know some clubs hiring practices are kinda sketchy and I doubt they ask - hey bubbles did you work the track off 4th street and main??? And you do know that while they might not do crack in the club, doesn't mean they don't do it in their off time. There are a percentage of dancers who are nurturing drug and alcohol addiction and some of them can hide it well. For all you know that OTC dancer could very well have been a streetwalker with a current crack addiction. Just saying.

    Im sure some of the guys here have found ways to get quality escorts for lowest prices, but In many instances, You get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    However, I am not a man and their thought process is vastly different from mine.
    I think this is the key in the industry where men are the procurers and women are the service providers (not sure if its the same when roles reverse) = men will want to get the most 'bang for their buck' and women will want to make the most money for the least amount of effort.
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    In this area, it's much less of a race to the bottom than a somewhat accepted norm. As a guy, I'm happy that there's such competition, because it helps me out. I know multiple dancers and all of them like money. If one girl were to become uninterested in a price point or our arrangement, I have a number of others in my phone who are every bit as attractive and perfectly willing to see me for that same rate.

    The internet has helped in pricing. Fifteen years ago, you didn't have the frequency of escort boards that you do now (or at least I don't remember it) I don't remember Backpage or Craigslist back then but I do remember ten years ago or less, there were boards like EscortVault. For instance, if I'm in a club and a girl wants to try and charge $200-300 or more for a 15-20 minute visit to the back room, I make it known that for that price (or less) I can go see a woman from Backpage or Escort boards that I belong too. That line is incredible bargaining power. In all of the times I've had to make that point clear to women, only two or three have decided that they didn't want to negotiate further and that was fine with me. I just find someone else who is willing to negotiate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I don't generally dial up escorts, but I keep tabs on certain markets in order to figure out what is reasonable for OTC. In the market I now live in, there are many girls giving it up for $100 or even less, including some attractive ones. Now I certainly pay more than that for my OTC partners, but part of what I am paying for is a girl who is not advertising on places like BP. When I do find an OTC partner who is also sidelining on BP (it has happened a couple of times), inevitably for less than I paid her for OTC, I cut her out of the lineup immediately.

    But as I've kept tabs on these markets, it is amazing how rates have stayed the same or even gone down a lot over the years. I think that even girls who have positioned themselves on the higher end of the spectrum are feeling the pressure from so much cheap sex out there. There are plenty of people on this board who are more knowledgeable about this topic than I, but I can say that in my home market it has also bled into what some girls are willing to accept for OTC, though tht may also be a function of suffering clubs.

    Anyway, just my if it is even worth that much.
    Just curious - what does it mean that she advertises on Backpage??? Is there really a difference between advertising on Backpage vs. other escort websites vs. word of mouth in club???
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    Yes, there is a difference. Some girls work strip clubs and have ads on Backpage as well or ads on other Escort boards. IMO, Backpage is kind of looked at as the easiest (albeit more dangerous, in terms of LE) route to go. To me, most of the time, BP is like going somewhere blind and there's a higher possibility that you might just be TOFTT.

    Still the BP advertisers get reviewed too on other boards. The board I spend most of my time on covers a variety of topics, like Escort Reports, Strip Clubs, Massage Parlors, etc. Eros has some known providers but they're typically on the more expensive end of things on that site and the SP's will probably will have an ad elsewhere simultaneously, at a lesser rate as well.

    Again, I have to keep referencing my area but in regard to word of mouth in a club, things get known pretty quickly, especially when a number of these girls rotate from club to club. You get to know who does what, who the upsellers and the ripoffs are and who is worthwhile to see outside of the club, if they do OTC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I can't speak for JDD

    But what I do know about people having lowest prices is that they usually have lower quality and they have to have more buyers to make the same amount as the ladies who charge more. More buyers/Customers/Clients = Higher risk for negative affects of the industry (burnout, contagious diseases, busts, etc). The ladies who are addicted to substances will be more likely to lower their rates/standards to get their drug of choice cause their addiction overrides their rational thinking. Now I'm sure there are the younger escorts who charge less because 1) they most likely only have themselves to support and fewer expenses 2) they're naive about the game and don't know their worth

    I think he's implying lower priced escorts in general are riskier. Would you pay rock bottom prices for a woman who treats her p*ssy like a McDonalds factory or would you pay more for a woman who treats her p*ssy like a 5 star restaurant?

    Also, you do know some clubs hiring practices are kinda sketchy and I doubt they ask - hey bubbles did you work the track off 4th street and main??? And you do know that while they might not do crack in the club, doesn't mean they don't do it in their off time. There are a percentage of dancers who are nurturing drug and alcohol addiction and some of them can hide it well. For all you know that OTC dancer could very well have been a streetwalker with a current crack addiction. Just saying.

    Im sure some of the guys here have found ways to get quality escorts for lowest prices, but In many instances, You get what you pay for.
    Sorry for the late reply, I must have missed this post.

    In regard to dancer / customer, SP / client relationships, everyone is looking for the best price. The ladies are looking for the most money they can extract for their services and the guys are looking for the best price they can get for what they want. That's where the negotiation comes in and where (hopefully), you can reach an arrangement. Obviously, it doesn't always work but that's just the way it goes sometimes.

    When you say "lower quality" are you saying a sexual experience that may not be as good, because I've paid a lesser hourly rate? If that's what you're saying, at least in my case, you'd be wrong. Higher escort rates are not mutually exclusive with better experiences. One of the best experiences that I ever had cost me $100 for a loosely or uncounted hour.

    In regard to higher risk for higher volume providers or substance abusers, you're absolutely right. It's hard to beat the math in regard to STD risk. Then again, no SP can be guaranteed 100% safe, regardless of her rate. Aside from all of the previous boyfriends and trysts, even seeing one customer a day, a week or even a month puts you at risk of an STD. The other girl charging $100-150 might beat the odds 500 or 1000 times and you may be unlucky once, even though your volume is far lower. Once unlucky is all it takes, regardless of the precautions you use.

    Allow me to point out that there are plenty of high dollar escorts who have alcohol and drug addictions as well. Is a lower volume, high dollar escort who makes $400 an hour but has a $300 a day coke habit really all that much different from a girl who makes $125 an hour but has the same $300 / day coke habit? Outside of the STD math, the fact remains that they both have a drug addiction.

    In regard to hiring practices, yes, definitely some clubs are very sketchy in their hiring practices. Many times, I'm sure that it just comes down to "We need dancers, can you dance and work the VIP?" and that's the whole interview. There's no denying that there's risk involved in either situation.

    Let me ask you, if a guy offers you $500 to see him for an hour, where do you draw the line before you say no? I mean, couldn't he be a drug dealer or a pimp? If he has the ability to pay $500 for an hour of your time, you know that he probably has enough to pay for plenty of hours of other girls time too. Does his $500 mean that he's less risky than a guy who offers $100 or $200?

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    When I say lower quality I mean they might be less educated, clothing/hair/nails less on point, body may be less up to par (as ladies with more money can afford things like plastic surgery, massages, dental treatment, quality hair extensions), might not take care of their p*ssy as well, etc....

    But then again Im not a dude so Im sure an escort with chipped nails, visible weave tracks, dropout, yellow teeth, cellulite, cheap lingerie, charging $100/ hr would be an attractive option to some men with raging sex drives and $100 in their wallet.

    You're right technically the only 100% safe sex is celibacy or masturbation. But there is a reason why men are freaking out when they find out their otc favs are posting on back page no?

    And I wasn't saying a high priced escort wouldn't have a drug addiction, I was saying that drug addictions affect that decision making center in the brain. A person feigning for coke or crack is going to be like damn I need to re-up so I might as well take this $100 right now vs. a sober escort who is like hmm this dude offered me $100 now but I can wait till I get that $700 whale tomorrow

    For me, a man paying for time, etc ..... quality for me would be (hygiene, respect, preferably no drug addicts cause coke and alcohol make dicks go limp, discretion, etc) I would want more just because the fear of being busted and needing to make sure I have money for top notch legal defense would be a factor in pricing. Also in general lower prices would attract lower class men.

    Im not saying your ladies aren't quality, just talking in general terms, as perhaps you have found exceptions.
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    Fair enough, good answer.

    FWIW, that $100 option visible weave tracks, yellow teeth, cellulite girl wouldn't be an option I'd consider.

    My ATF used to advertise on escort boards and still does. I know she's been on BP a couple of times, discreetly hidden in the massage section though. I've seen her a number of times over the years and she's a complete professional and a safety girl. Based on that, I'm not worried at all.

    In regard to dancers that I see, there have been a couple that I've seen pop up on BP and while I wasn't enthusiastic about it, I certainly couldn't be hypocritical about it. I mean, I wouldn't have known they were posting there, unless I was looking.

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    Quality DOES correlate to price, or at least it should as a pretty basic economic principle. Either this girl is a raging idiot, is really not that high quality, or you live in crackhead central where prices have been driven down by desperation..I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around having some dude stick his strange dick in me (whether or not you've showered first lmao) for..100 bucks. Just no. Good god,.

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    Frankly, I knew that 100 dollars would be an rate of a lot lizard or boardwalk girl. Lot lizards often charge 100 and girls off the boardwalks like in San Cruz charge 100 dollars but they are discreet.Actually, most crackhead prostitutes charge below 100 in a lot of areas because crack is cheap. So most crackhead prostitutes are between 10 to 75 dollars per hour because they need to fix.Crack is often cheap and they charge very low rates. Sometimes, they do groups for 500 but that if they want crack to last for more than a week. Meanwhile, prostitutes on Meth and/or peyote often charge lower like 5 to 25 dollars per blowjob without a condom. They are super high volume and often have like tons of STDs. Then there are people who charge 1 dollar per min but they often conduct their business outside of the dumpster and are below crackhead standards. I mean girls and guys with no teeth and holes in their skin.

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    Where I'm from crack is very pricey! Haha

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    Default Re: How much would you/do you spend on an escort???

    Here's the thing about this question - it can make for an interesting discussion, but the bottom line, charge what you are comfortable charging and don't let anyone try to convince you that you "can't" get away with it.

    There will always be $100 girls, because there will always be customers who are only willing to pay that much. You know what? That's fine. Let those girls have those customers. But where those particular men seem to fall into a trap is that they seem to assume that everyone in their area is only willing to pay those prices and will talk about how the market simply won't allow girls to charge higher than that - thus instilling this fear in every woman who reads things like this that they better not deviate from the norm in their area, because they just won't get any clients who are willing to pay more. And the reason you may not see any girls in a particular area over that "normal rate" is just because they've read things like that/listened to those customers, and believe that so they don't even try -- not because someone actually couldn't come along and charge more with success.

    There are plenty of guys in my area who probably insist that there's no way I'm making money at my rates because why would anyone pay 350/hr when they can call the local service for 90/hr or the "highest" in the area besides me is 250/hr? But they would be incorrect.

    And I don't need to convince those guys that by seeing lower priced women, they are "wrong" or get in a tizzy about the girls who are "ruining" my market with their bargain prices. Who cares? It's not actually a competition, no matter how many people fearfully insist that it is. These guys can complain about my prices and claim they would never see me all they want. Fine... I'm sure those other girls are happy to get that money instead. And just because I didn't get their money, doesn't mean I'm sitting around lacking, boo-hooing over the fact that they went somewhere cheaper because I wouldn't budge for them. I'm quite happy with my network of regulars who are completely willing to pay what I want and clearly don't feel gypped. Everybody gets what they want.

    But there's no sense in arguing about it: women trying to convince men who aren't going to part with more money that they'll never find what they want (they clearly have, otherwise they would've found incentive to up their spending limits or gotten out of the game all together), OR men trying to convince women that certain markets just "won't" allow them to charge more - it may be so in their reality, because they've specifically structured their spending habits around these certain prices, but that doesn't make it true for every customer or every escort, so don't let anyone try to scare you into thinking otherwise.
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    Several problems have kept me from engaging in SP activities - diseases, legality, mugging, to name 3. Many years ago I did have a few encounters in such a way as to escape the threat of all but the first. I got no diseases due to care in selecting the gals. Three (or more) were strippers and one was off the street but I knew her pretty well before. The one off the street would do oral for less than $50; the others had varied prices but always above $150. I've been thinking about getting back into that now that my expenses are down and income up a little. From what I've read the non-CL and non-BP prices in the area are $150 -$300. Up to that top level I would go for the SP I would want to be with; also it's a matter of frequency. Else I'm not looking low-ball the SP.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

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    Default Re: How much would you/do you spend on an escort???

    Escorting is something I have thought about, but when I subtract possible losses from escorting, strip club VIPs from my point of view seem to be a better deal.

    To be honest I have had all nude VIPs and Topless VIPs and depending on the girl if she is a grinder and really good I have had VIPs that have felt just as good as sex and actually more pleasurable than sex I have had with some women. The only real difference is a guy can't say, "yeah I scored tonight" or that is "one more sexual partner on my list". If it feels just as good as sex and the dancer can get a guy off multiple times in one hour just by grinding on his pants in VIP, at least to me your really not losing out on all that much in the club. She will flip into all kinds of different angles and grind on the guy in all kinds of different positions and the guy sees her fully nude in all the different angles.

    I took a lot of accounting classes in college if I did a rough benefits-loss analysis comparing VIPs to Escorting( Prostitution) this is the result I get

    Strip Club VIP: .................................................. ..........................................Escorting( Prostitution)
    Benefits.................................................. .................................................. .. Benefits
    See dancer all nude.............................................. ........................................ Actually gets sex
    Sexual pleasure.......................................... .................................................. Sexual pleasure
    Guy gets off............................................... .................................................. Guy gets off
    Legal............................................. .................................................. ............Can brag about one more sex partner on his list
    No risk of STD's
    Don't have to give personal info

    Losses (Strip Club VIP).................................................. ...........Losses (Escorting)
    Not actually getting sex............................................... ..............Possible curable STD infection or incurable STD infection like HIV
    Can't brag about one more sex partner on his list............................Getting Arrested
    .................................................. ...........................................Getting fired/ losing job
    .................................................. ........................................... Criminal Record
    .................................................. ...........................................Getting Blackmailed / Identity Fraud (have personal information)
    .................................................. ...........................................Stuck with an incurable disease & medical bills

    If I did an accounting equation here (benefits - losses) = Net Benefits the result is getting VIPs in clubs wins very easily.
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    High priced vs low priced, how often do you really know the history? There's assumptions and there's reality. Someone can be a theoretical high priced, perceived low volume provider on the market, but high volume outside vs a low-priced, perceived high volume provider who's timing just matched up due to any number of reasons but in actuality has had low-volume sex. The point is perception is reality and people will make up their stories afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November_Scorpio View Post
    Escorting is something I have thought about, but when I subtract possible losses from escorting, strip club VIPs from my point of view seem to be a better deal.

    To be honest I have had all nude VIPs and Topless VIPs and depending on the girl if she is a grinder and really good I have had VIPs that have felt just as good as sex and actually more pleasurable than sex I have had with some women. The only real difference is a guy can't say, "yeah I scored tonight" or that is "one more sexual partner on my list". If it feels just as good as sex and the dancer can get a guy off multiple times in one hour just by grinding on his pants in VIP, at least to me your really not losing out on all that much in the club. She will flip into all kinds of different angles and grind on the guy in all kinds of different positions and the guy sees her fully nude in all the different angles.

    I took a lot of accounting classes in college if I did a rough benefits-loss analysis comparing VIPs to Escorting( Prostitution) this is the result I get

    Strip Club VIP: .................................................. ..........................................Escorting( Prostitution)
    Benefits.................................................. .................................................. .. Benefits
    See dancer all nude.............................................. ........................................ Actually gets sex
    Sexual pleasure.......................................... .................................................. Sexual pleasure
    Guy gets off............................................... .................................................. Guy gets off
    Legal............................................. .................................................. ............Can brag about one more sex partner on his list
    No risk of STD's
    Don't have to give personal info

    Losses (Strip Club VIP).................................................. ...........Losses (Escorting)
    Not actually getting sex............................................... ..............Possible curable STD infection or incurable STD infection like HIV
    Can't brag about one more sex partner on his list............................Getting Arrested
    .................................................. ...........................................Getting fired/ losing job
    .................................................. ........................................... Criminal Record
    .................................................. ...........................................Getting Blackmailed / Identity Fraud (have personal information)
    .................................................. ...........................................Stuck with an incurable disease & medical bills

    If I did an accounting equation here (benefits - losses) = Net Benefits the result is getting VIPs in clubs wins very easily.
    Interesting. I kinda see the strip club in the same way. The time I danced I was celibate but it gave me a chance to meet guys, learn men's personalities, get affection (even if it was "fake"), not have to worry about diseases or penetration, not have to swap Dna, issues that come along with relationships, and most importantly get money from men without having to jump through endless hoop or be their girlfriend or wife before seeing any financial payoff.

    Do you think you pay more financially for escorts or strip club vip encounters?
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    Interesting. I kinda see the strip club in the same way. The time I danced I was celibate but it gave me a chance to meet guys, learn men's personalities, get affection (even if it was "fake"), not have to worry about diseases or penetration, not have to swap Dna, issues that come along with relationships, and most importantly get money from men without having to jump through endless hoop or be their girlfriend or wife before seeing any financial payoff.

    Do you think you pay more financially for escorts or strip club vip encounters?
    Well since I have never actually seen escorts, I only know friends who have its hard for me to say. Escorting can be cheaper if a guy sees cheap $100 girls, but if he is seeing a lot of mid-range and higher priced girls I think escorting is way more expensive. I read somewhere that Charlie Sheen had spent like over $1.6 million on escorts. The club is something that can be done more frequently though and it's much easier access. You can spend as little as getting in with a free pass and buying the cost of drink or spending thousands on the club depending what you can buy. There was a time I was going to clubs like almost 7 days a week. I would spend a lot of the weekends, but during the week I would just go to hang out, pay some tips to dancers on stage and get a drink. With an escort it is a minimum of a set price each time you want to see her. So if your lonely and just want to cure that loneliness by just tipping girls on stage, but don't have much cash on hand the strip club can be a much cheaper option than escorting.

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    To be honest I have had all nude VIPs and Topless VIPs and depending on the girl if she is a grinder and really good I have had VIPs that have felt just as good as sex and actually more pleasurable than sex I have had with some women.
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    I don't get that much stimulation from grinding.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    ^^^^There are many other ways to get "stimulation" aside from grinding

    But i could see how guys would be into that vs being with an escort especially if it's scenario how scorpio describes.
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    There are many other ways to get "stimulation" aside from grinding
    I could get it from extras, or even just chatting. Kissing/hugging is a great way for me, but not that many will kiss, even if you are well known to them.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    I don't get that much stimulation from grinding.
    Yeah true and a lot of guys have told me they don't. For a guy who can't get off by just a girl grinding on them I can see how maybe that would be of less value to them. Fortunately I tend to be overly sensitive and just a little grinding tends to go a long way for me. If I haven't masturbated for a day it can take as little as 1-2 songs of grinding till I get off and am satisfied. When I go to the club and get a 30 minute or an hour VIP I like to have masturbated at least twice already that day before hand, unless I also will be ordering dances from her before hand. I can get off multiple times in VIP, but I usually have to rest and talk to her for about 20 minutes in VIP and then tell her im feeling stiff again and have her grind me the last 20 minutes till I get happy in the pants again. Sometimes I will buy 1-2 songs before the VIP and get off by a girl grinding on me for 1 or 2 songs then I will order a 30 minute or 1 hour VIP from her after that. It's not hard for a dancer to get me off 3 times in one night just by grinding. I had one dancer I would order 1-2 songs from her get off and be happy. Talk to her for about 20 minutes and order another couple dances, get off again in the pants. Then order a 30 minute or 1 hour VIP and get off a 3rd time in VIP simply from her grinding me. Feels just as good as sex and just as satisfying as being with an escort. Dancers are usually fine with a guy who gets off easily by just grinding as long as the guy wears a condom under the pants so nothing leaks through his pants and gets on the dancer.

    You can really get a lot more stimulation from lapdances too depending what pants you wear. When I go to clubs I like to wear Liquid Lap Dance Pants you can order them at . They really improve the amount of stimulation you can get during a lapdance. If you wear these pants you don't need to wear a condom under the pants since the pants are designed to contain any bodily fluids with a latex barrier built into the pants. I also like to stay away from pants with a lot friction like blue Jeans. I get more stimulation from wearing khakis and slacks.
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