I've only seen this happen a couple of times, it's not very common unless it's only done behind closed doors, and no, it's not my thing. I would never make out with a customer.



I've only seen this happen a couple of times, it's not very common unless it's only done behind closed doors, and no, it's not my thing. I would never make out with a customer.





Frankly, I really do not see how this post is an answer to mine. As a sex worker, I was talking about the real dangers of customers like yourself acting like this is something that is not. Many of them have been coming on here and making stupid ass threads about "their emotions" or " their love". But I call this shit out as fake because they are simply white knights or captain-save-a-hoes looking for props. Personally, you sound like the type of customer that I have been addressing for awhile on this forum. You are an entitled white knight looking for kissing and other things to become normal the stripclub because you hate the fact that you pay strippers. So, you want to entitled sex work "paid hookups" because you can not handle sex without emotion.Sex work is about illusions and fantasies only. You give money to the sex worker to fulfill your fantasies (Either romantic and sexual) Sex workers must be on point with their game and make you feel like good.However, they should never do too much for too little either. Making out with a customer seems like too much for too little in a strip club. I hope that you paid handsomely to have strippers make out with you.
it's not about the place necessarily (well strip club is for dancing not sucking face) but more along the lines of sheer numbers.
Do you think the average civilian woman is going to a bar 3-4 times a week and kissing 10 dudes in the mouth each time?? A dancer will have roughly 10 customers a night and work 3-4 times a week. Now if I acquiesced 30-40 dudes a week who wanted to kiss me in a dark club where I couldn't see their face/facial lesions/or know with certainty whether they were sick or not - how fast do you think it would take me to get sick?
I could kiss 40 dudes a week at a church. Results will still be the same. The more people you kiss in the mouth the greater chance of catching an illness, some of which are incurable.
A high percentage of these men want to push the envelope, they don't get the fantasy and want to know that you're really into them and not just "faking" it so they'll try to get the "girlfriend experience" which usually involves kissing.
Scary cause you could just kiss one dude and be f*cked. Just really never know but the more randoms kissed means more of a risk.
Too bad we cant do on the spot oral std test/cold/flu/mono tests
Last edited by miss.a.p1600; 09-10-2016 at 11:36 PM.
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”

Never underestimate the value of clean, fresh breath.

It's almost astounding how few people, it seems, understand herpes, how it is spread, that it's a life long NO CURE condition which can lead to foetal and newborn death.
But who needs to think about that when all you really want is a snog, right?
Nah. SMH





MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt


I have gotten tested before for the full range of STD's several times in life, always coming back negative on everything including Herpes( the Herpes 2 virus which is the STD). The Herpes 1 they usually don't test for since it is not an STD and is viewed by doctors as not a big deal. There is a big difference when people say Herpes are you talking about Herpes 1 or Herpes 2? Herpes 2 can be a nuisance , but Herpes 1 that is spread simply by kissing people is viewed by doctors as really no big deal and nothing to worry about. Ask any doctor you visit, he will tell you the same thing about Herpes 1 that my doctor told me, harmless. Most adults it is estimated, 90% will have Herpes 1 sometime in their lives and most show little or no symptoms. Even the Herpes 2 virus which can cause problems with newborn babies in very cases is most the time harmless, that is at least what my doctor told me. It said online in very rare cases Herpes 2(genital herpes) can cause problems with the child when born( emphasis very rare that happens). At progressivehealth.com it says most the time a woman with genital herpes has no problems with child birth delivery and the genital herpes doesn't cause any problems to the infant.
This is quote from progressivehealth.comThe first infection of herpes simplex 1 usually occurs in childhood or adolescence, and can reoccur in adults. According to the New York Times, herpes simplex 1 is so common that up to 90% of adults will have had the virus at some point in their lives.from progressivehealth.comMost women with genital herpes, however, do not have signs of active infection with the virus during this time, and can have a normal delivery.
My grandma showed signs of Herpes 1, getting cold sores, and she lived to the age of 98 and had no problems with child birth, had two kids that grew up to be college educated and very healthy.
Last edited by November_Scorpio; 09-11-2016 at 03:56 PM.





This post is disgusting to me!!! Dude, having herpes is nothing to be proud of. You sound like you are super proud that your grandmother has herpes. I guess if she had syphilis...you would have threw her a party. Having STDS is nothing to be proud and it is a big deal. Stop acting like everyone on here should just accept STDS like they are some sort of candy. Why are customers like yourself trying to act like strippers and other sex workers should accept STDs as part of life? Plus, you went to the wrong type of doctors because my doctors act like Herpes 1 is a big deal. In fact, your post shows that strippers should never kiss dudes in the strip club and/or do so at their own risk. I hope those women charge a lot for kissing as well.
Scorpio you do know herpes 1 and herpes 2 are both herpes simplex.
And yes if a person goes down on you and they have oral herpes (particularly active outbreak) you will end up with genital herpes. How is that not an std??? Go to an educated Doctor. They will warn you, One can cause the other. Genital herpes can cause oral herpes and vice versa.
Women with genital herpes and active outbreak have to have c sections to prevent baby suffering from herpes during labor.
Let a broad with oral herpes (more specifically active lesions) go down on you if you want. Your penis may never be the same. Just sayin.
No herpes is not the end of the world but why spread or contract diseases unnecessarily???
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”


When did I say strippers should accept having an STD? Nothing in my post said that. I was just trying to correct the misinformation most people have about Herpes, in particular Herpes 1 which is not an STD and estimated 90% of adults have Herpes 1. A lot people have no clue that Herpes 1 is not an std, that most people have it, and that it is harmless according to doctors that is all I am trying to point out. You get Herpes 1 simply by just kissing someone.

Thanks for the unnecessary mansplain, I'm well versed in STDs, STIs and blood born pathogens; not that you were to know that of course so safe to assume I button up the back. Why is your doctor telling you herpes wouldn't affect newborn babies? I smell a quick google search and a mighty serving of bs.
A woman who has at any time had a breakout of herpes in the genital region (both 1&2 affect the genitals, just as 1&2 affect oral areas) is advised against having a natural birth, y'hear that? A NATURAL birth, because the baby being born will come into contact with the parts of her body in which the virus resides in the nerves and that newborn will contract the virus on it's first day out of the womb. Ain't that twisted? It happens on an uncountable scale because people don't get tested, so they don't know they have the virus, because they think 'I've never had the sores so I've not got it'. Herpes does not necessarily break out as soon as someone contracts it, it can lay dormant in the nerves for months if not years before it is triggered and the cells start to shed. The condition is at it's most infectious while those sores are present - but genitals which host the virus while never having shed the cells are STILL contagious, it's called asymptomatic viral shedding. Which, by the way, can also be passed to the eyes of newborns, and to the eyes of lovers. Add to that a child born with herpes can spread the virus to it's mothers nipples through breastfeeding. I can't even begin to imagine how heart breaking that would be to have an infant with herpes sores trying to nurse on nipples which have them also........ but then, seems people who just want a snog can't, no wait, flat out don't consider that for a nano second.
*Edited to add - any woman with an active outbreak of herpes in her genitals will not have the option of a natural birth, hospital will flat out deny it for the babies sake of lessening the risk of contracting the virus. Imposed abdominal surgery, like it or lump it.*
Have you kissed anyone on the mouth, or gone down on anyone, or had someone go down on you then kiss you since you were last screened? Congrats, you're likely to have contracted herpes in that time.
Just because you think your mouth (or any other parts) are 'clean' doesn't mean they are....... I mean, unless you get bloods taken every time you kiss someone new. And no working woman in her right mind is going to take your word for it.
Last edited by Anna_X; 09-11-2016 at 04:42 PM.


No I have not had any sexual contact since last screened except with my girlfriend who before we were intimate I requested get screened just like I had my ex-wife tested for everything before we decided to be intimate together. I am well versed in a lot things too my mother was a nurse and I worked at a hospital for over 5 years... that's why when I go to clubs I just get dances and vips and no extras. I always have come back negative because I practice safe sex, had only two long term sexual relationships with females in my life. My ex-wife and current girlfriend that's it. A lot one night stands when I was younger and had better looks. Over a lifetime its been about 16 different partners, but I was more reckless when I was younger than I am now. Like for example when I was 13 I had no clue about STDs and had unprotected with a girl in middle school, but I was stupid then.
Is there some hostility I am feeling because in a previous post asking guys about how much they pay escorts I commented I knew a friend who frequented them and typically spent between $80-$400? That is my friend not me, I think he is a fool for doing it. Some of those girls have seen over a thousand different guys, seeing those girls is just stupid. That is my friends behavior not me, lol. Let me just make that crystal clear
And I also see problems with my friends behavior which I have told him. Many escorts are forced into it, trafficked from other countries, end up suffering from permanent emotional damage and end up getting mental health problems like PTSD, many were abused and are just reliving their abuse by engaging in what many psychologists call paid rape. My friends views are complete opposite of mine, just to be very crystal clear. I am very much against extras in clubs and I see it as paid sexual abuse. I agree with Sweden I see many of those girls as victims.
Last edited by November_Scorpio; 09-11-2016 at 05:33 PM.
Before you attempt to correct information make sure you are informed yourself
1) Herpes simplex can be spread by kissing mouth to mouth (non-sexual) AND Oral Sex/ mouth to genitals / genitals to mouth
--- Cold Sores cause genital herpes ---- thus making this second case a form of an STD
--- Herpes simplex spread from oral sex is an std
----http://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stdfact-herpes.htm
----https://www.verywell.com/my-partners...herpes-3132954
2) Any incurable contagious disease is not something I would necessarily consider "harmless" --- outbreaks are unsightly and painful, suppressive therapy is lifelong, you have to inform your partners, there is unfortunately a stigma, etc.
But hey to each his own.
Last edited by miss.a.p1600; 09-11-2016 at 05:59 PM.
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”
This fucking thread just...


Ok read the links, but both links talk about "Genital Herpes" also called Herpes 2, not Herpes 1 which is just caught by kissing someone. Like I said huge difference between Herpes 1 and Herpes 2(Genital Herpes). I don't see anything on CDC website talking about dangers of Herpes 1(which isn't genital herpes) or the dangers of contracting Herpes 1 by non-sexual contact(like kissing someone). If you find that information about Herpes 1(NOT Genital Herpes) on the CDC website let me know. And let me know if you can find any information on web stating the Herpes 1 virus is an STD, it is not listed an STD. Where on CDC website can you find it listing Herpes 1 as an STD? It lists Herpes 2(Genital Herpes) as an STD not Herpes 1. That is why they don't test for Herpes 1 when people get an STD test, because it is not considered an STD.
Last edited by November_Scorpio; 09-11-2016 at 06:24 PM.
^^^Dude They're both Herpes simplex and one can cause the other.
The only distinction is the location of the sores.
a person with herpes simplex type 1 aka cold sores performs oral sex and the recipient most likely will catch genital herpes.
Whether you kiss on the mouth or kiss on the genitals - herpes simplex will spread to either location.
Let a woman or man or whoever you get down with cold sores blow you and see what happens --- report back homie!
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”







Both are Herpes Simplex, but two separate viruses. If you know a doctor who says the Herpes 1 virus(Not std caught by kissing someone) is a serious health risk let me have his phone number and he can talk to my doctor. Herpes 1 and Herpes 2 are not the same! Just because they have the same name doesn't make them identical viruses. Herpes 1 is harmless, Herpes 2 can in some instances cause problems. They are different that is what my doctor said. Herpes 1 can not mutate and turn into Herpes 2 separate viruses. If someone has herpes 1 and has sexual contact with a partner it does not magically transform into Herpes 2(Genital Herpes).
from
Herpes simplex virus (type 1, herpes-1, or HSV-1) causes about 80% of cases of oral herpes infections. There is no evidence that HSV-1 viruses mutate into HSV-2 viruses.
Another herpes simplex virus (type 2, herpes-2 or HSV-2) causes the other 20% and causes the majority of genital herpes infections.





Please, you are gross, sir! You are the first guy on here who acted like having herpes is some sort of party gift. Secondly, you are trying to mansplain Stds and making yourself look like such a sleazy creep on a forum full of sex workers.Third, you are trying to throw some sort of jab towards us if we call you at on your bs. You know this is not about what you said in the escort thread. Fourth, stop acting like herpes is not a big deal. It is a big deal and you sound gross as hell trying to promote it as some sort of disease like chicken pox. Fifth, what type of man brags about his grandmother having herpes? Damn! That was one of the most grossest things that I ever read in my life. You was bragging about your grandmother in her 90s showing signs of herpes.
I guess you would brag about grandma having Syphilis and throwing her a party? This is from a sex worker who would marry for convenience or have a green card marriage. Normally, I do not say this about anyone on here because people in crystal mansions should not throw rocks but this needs to be said. You have very little morals as man! Congrats on showing very a little moral compass on this site. You bragged about your own grandmother having herpes and acting like that was just normal. That was depraved, sir! Super depraved! Not even my most taboo clientele brags about such a thing.
Ding, Ding, Ding!!! ---- You are still only HALF right....
They are not identical but they are not completely separate as they are both Herpes Simplex AND one can cause the other.
Keep researching.....
Herpes 1 can be transmitted to the genital region
and Herpes 2 can be transmitted to the mouth region
http://www.webmd.com/genital-herpes/...agement-herpes
excerpt....
"Herpes simplex viruses -- more commonly known as herpes -- are categorized into two types: herpes type 1 (HSV-1, or oral herpes) and herpes type 2 (HSV-2, or genital herpes). Most commonly, herpes type 1 causes sores around the mouth and lips (sometimes called fever blisters or cold sores). HSV-1 can cause genital herpes, but most cases of genital herpes are caused by herpes type 2. In HSV-2, the infected person may have sores around the genitals or rectum. Although HSV-2 sores may occur in other locations, these sores usually are found below the waist."
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”





Ladies if you meet customers like November_Scorpio....please run for the hills. Guys like this one is very gross because they do not mind a diseased penis or a mouth full of sores. They might want to kiss you to pass you a nasty surprise. Remember this in the clubs when guys want to cover you in spit and tongues.If you do kiss, please charge high because guys like this want to put everyone at risk.![]()
^^^^LOL!!! Well I got my entertainment for the night...
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”


Hey wait a minute this is not fair, I never said having Herpes was a party gift? Where did you get that from? Mansplain STDs ... what? I think STDs are terrible where are you getting this from? I am not bragging about my suspicion that my Grandma had Herpes1? Where did I brag about that? When did I say I promoted Herpes? Why are you making all these "assumptions" and assuming things about me that are not true based of me stating what my doctor told me about Herpes 1?
im so sorry that your offended by what my doctor told me, ok I give in maybe my doctor was wrong? Ok .. is that fair?





Dude, you came on here and was acting like a sick no-it-all. You was saying over and over how Herpes 1 is not that bad. Look, it is not the worstest std out there but it is still bad. Then you acted like you are happy about knowing that your grandmother have herpes. Is that something that you should broadcast on a forum full of sex workers? Plus, you wrote that in a thread called "kissing the customers". That made you sound like a sort of depraved weirdo who gets off to diseases. Your posts sound very creepy and very idiotic in thread. Plus, you highlight another reason why strippers and other sex workers should not kiss customers. Or if they do so....then they should charge high.I was offended not by your stupid doctor's claims but by your overall reactions in this thread. It is not only your words but your attitude in thread overall.
Damn, stating your suspicions about your grandmother having herpes on this forum is just gross. This is not a medical forum....this is a forum for sex workers to find support. Do you understand that? Or do you think that it is smart to broadcast those statements on here?So, I think that my statements about you are fair because how you come across. Maybe stop being so creepy . Then I would not have to call you out for it. If you want to talk about stds and strip clubs...then you should go on the boys only sites. Plus, this thread was not about stds until you turned it into one. This was about if it is okay for strippers to kiss customers. But no, you do not want to read that. You want to make it about you and your stupid claims about herpes. Then you bring your grandma into the mix like some sort of depraved perv getting off to that fact. But at least, you taught me about how cater to bug catchers with an gilf fetish


I just don't like it when people claim things and make assumptions about me that not true based on "assumptions". I do not go around french kissing customers or getting extras. Where did I say this? And I very much do mind a diseased mouth and penis? That is just gross why did you say that? Where did I say this? that is what is unfair. I never said this. Don't mind covering a girl in spit what that is sick where did I say this? yes that is gross I never said that either. I just am upset a lot assumptions are being made that are totally false. I go to clubs. I don't get extras, I don't kiss dancers, I always ask dancer before dance what are her rules on touching. Most dancers at clubs call me a gentlemen for asking. If she says she wants me to sit on hands during dance I do it and I never touch dancers in areas even if offered where STD's can be caught, that is just sick. There are clubs I was grossed out by the dancers and never visited again.
I just don't understand how all these "assumptions" came out about me that are totally false just because I just stated what my doctor told me about Herpes 1. That is what I found hurtful and very upsetting. Yes maybe my doctor was wrong.
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