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    Personally, I really hate when guys make up an excuse not to have a dance and then go with another girl 5 minutes later. I'd rather them just say something like "sorry but you're not my type, I'm looking for something else" rather than "I have no money" or "i don't do lapdances" or some shitty excuse. I find it so annoying. But I guess some girls take it really personally if a customer said they're not they're type?

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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    Go to red flag phases. It helps, just spot it and move on to next sale. It can be anything. Just know when he a time waster is the key

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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    For sure would rather hear an excuse than be told I'm unwanted. At least with excuses I can pretend that something is wrong with the customer rather than be told something is wrong with me.

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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    The truth is better if he does it in a way that is still respectful and not mean spirited. I get that I'm not the girl for everyone and I appreciate guys not wasting my time by telling me so. I sometimes ask them what type of girls their into and if I'm working with a friend that fits the description, I suggest her. This sometimes gets me a tip or an invite for a double dance.

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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    i prefer being told i'm not their type as long as it's done in a nice and polite way. actually i really appreciate it and usually thank them for being honest and not wasting my time.

    i completely get why guys make excuses though, as much as i hate it. i've seen way too many girls get mad or offended when a guy tells them 'no' or 'you're not my type'. i've seen guys get cussed out, yelled at and insulted. i don't get why they do that. he's still not going to spend money on you and you look like a huge bitch with a bad attitude to anyone else who sees.. plus now he's going to give the next girl some 'come back later' BS.

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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    " No Thank You "

    It's very easy.


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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    Quote Originally Posted by carmen_b View Post
    " No Thank You "

    It's very easy.
    This.

    I don't know why both sides need to make it so damn complicated. There's always guys in Customer Conversation asking what they should say and how to word it.... just say "No thank you." It really doesn't have to be a whole spiel. And if a girl hears "no thank you," move on.

    But you're right. A lot of girls can't just take the direct "no thank you" and move on. They demand a reason and get pissy. So, many customers have learned that it's best to make up an excuse. Like stated above, the best thing you can do is learn to spot the BS excuses, take them for what you know they are, and move on without getting offended if he goes with someone else later, because you knew he would.

    The only one I ever tried to push on was the "Maybe later" thing. Every once in awhile, they mean it. So, I would say "Ok, I'll come back to you in a little while." Go back later, try one more time - quickly to ask for a dance again. If they still give you an excuse, just move on. That's the only one that really gets to me. There are a million other excuses a customer could use - don't use "maybe later" if you know you have absolutely no intention of doing anything later... But again, once you realize it's just an excuse... just move on. You can't take their hesitancy to possibly get bitched at personally. We're smart enough to know what's up.
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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    I really don't care as long as it's not rude (because if you think my tits are too small or my hair looks bad,,that's fine but I certainly don't want to hear that and have it fuck up my vibe) because I know "I lost my wallet!" And other bullshit is a very clear no and I move on. I personally hate "you're not my type" ok, and bald and pock-marked isn't my type either but here we are! Just don't be rude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora_Sunset View Post
    This.

    I don't know why both sides need to make it so damn complicated. There's always guys in Customer Conversation asking what they should say and how to word it.... just say "No thank you." It really doesn't have to be a whole spiel. And if a girl hears "no thank you," move on.

    But you're right. A lot of girls can't just take the direct "no thank you" and move on. They demand a reason and get pissy. So, many customers have learned that it's best to make up an excuse. Like stated above, the best thing you can do is learn to spot the BS excuses, take them for what you know they are, and move on without getting offended if he goes with someone else later, because you knew he would.

    The only one I ever tried to push on was the "Maybe later" thing. Every once in awhile, they mean it. So, I would say "Ok, I'll come back to you in a little while." Go back later, try one more time - quickly to ask for a dance again. If they still give you an excuse, just move on. That's the only one that really gets to me. There are a million other excuses a customer could use - don't use "maybe later" if you know you have absolutely no intention of doing anything later... But again, once you realize it's just an excuse... just move on. You can't take their hesitancy to possibly get bitched at personally. We're smart enough to know what's up.
    Except if I gave up after every guy said no thank you I would never make any money. I always push even if they've said no multiple times and that's how I (and everyone I know) make money. If they make an excuse I still push but if they said they're looking for something else I don't waste my time

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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    But yeah I do see girls get so angry when a guy says they're looking for someone else. As long as it's not done in a rude way or say they want a white girl lol it doesn't matter

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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    Yeah it's f*cked up but people lie all the time and strip club is the last place to expect honesty.

    I'd rather hear a dude tell me no thanks but (insert some compliment here) and hand me some tip money. However this doesn't always happen, a dude will lie, then leave the club or go with another dancer. Times like this I just let that sh*t roll off my back and move on to the next.

    also like mentioned sometimes a no isn't really a no it's just a you haven't convinced me yet. So I'll continue a few more min of convo/selling and suggest dances again.
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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    Are the empty excuses and the not being wanted not one in the same? I could really care less. I have thick skin and am yet to meet anyone outside of one good friend who I made dancing whose opinion matters one iota to me.
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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    I mean I'm not crying my eyes out or anything it's more the time/effort that I've wasted lol
    Tbh it's kind of annoying when they actually like you and buy you drinks etc and are complimenting you then make up some excuse. My (brunette) friend was talking to this customer for a bit, was buying her drinks, seemed genuinely interested and then turned her down. 15 minutes later he takes 2 blonde girls to VIP. It's like why couldn't he just say from the beginning?
    I also find it weird when they say "I dont do dances" and then have a dance with someone else. It's just like huh what (but at least then they haven't wasted my time because after I hear that I dont push too much)

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    Yeah that does suck. I have had a couple times where guys would do that. Buying a dancer drinks is usually an indicator they will spend more money with you.

    Sometimes the guy is just lying/confused or perhaps the next dancer is offering more/charging less in private than what you're willing to do. We all know that some of these guys are extra seekers or looking for basement bargain prices
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    Quote Originally Posted by newb2 View Post
    Except if I gave up after every guy said no thank you I would never make any money. I always push even if they've said no multiple times and that's how I (and everyone I know) make money. If they make an excuse I still push but if they said they're looking for something else I don't waste my time
    Quote Originally Posted by newb2 View Post
    I mean I'm not crying my eyes out or anything it's more the time/effort that I've wasted lol
    Tbh it's kind of annoying when they actually like you and buy you drinks etc and are complimenting you then make up some excuse. My (brunette) friend was talking to this customer for a bit, was buying her drinks, seemed genuinely interested and then turned her down. 15 minutes later he takes 2 blonde girls to VIP. It's like why couldn't he just say from the beginning?
    I also find it weird when they say "I dont do dances" and then have a dance with someone else. It's just like huh what (but at least then they haven't wasted my time because after I hear that I dont push too much)
    I mean, in the same way, a customer could say "I'm not really into brunettes" but that doesn't mean he is never ever going to get a dance with a brunette. Same is true of guys who "don't do dances." I've had several "club regulars" never get dances until one night when they were kinda tipsy, broke down, and wanted some - usually just with one girl. Whether they prefer blondes, leggy girls, or to sit around like furniture, that doesn't mean that, with the right girl/persuasion, a normally-cheap guy would never ever go for a short brunette. I've met few guys who are that picky about their preferences that there are no exceptions. So, even an excuse like that, might not be a real "no" - so where's the line? And if a guy told you he's not into brunettes, and then a few hours later, you see him go back with a different brunette because of something that just happened to trigger him about her, wouldn't it just be the same kind of annoyed feeling?

    Any excuse can be weak. Any excuse can technically be overcome. I guess pick your battles based on your gut feeling (is he just hesitant, is he really digging me right now, or does he clearly want me to go away?), and again, don't take it personally if they proceed to do the opposite of what they said, regardless of whatever their excuse was, because it's probably not something you could have predicted or changed anyway. It ultimately really matters little what the excuse is that comes out of their mouths - you could push and it could change... or not. You could walk away and they could change what they said for some other girl... or not.

    Rule of thumb: customers lie. And even when they don't lie, there are a million unspoken "unless-es" that could trigger irritation in a previously-rejected dancer if they change their minds later under different circumstances... It's not worth the headache to get irritated about whatever they said. There are too many variables.
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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    As long as he cuts me off quick, I really don't care.

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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    All they have to say is "no thanks, I'm waiting for so and so". Nuff said.

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    I like when a guy just says "I'm waiting for someone" easy for me to end the conversation and not waste my time

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    My least favorite response is when they sit there staring into space and being short with me when I come up and say hi. It makes me feel incredibly awkward. Well, that and the ones who are super rude and insulting (luckily I rarely get those, I've gotten the first one more often)

    My favorite response was a guy I approached who said "I'm waiting for someone else but thank you for stopping by" very polite but to the point. He sat there by himself for awhile so I could tell he wasn't waiting for anyone in particular and I just wasn't his type but the point was he was polite and didnt insult me or sit there acting weird.

    I prefer polite truth like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    As long as he cuts me off quick, I really don't care.
    This. I don't really care how a guys says no as long as he's not being an asshole. I want to know within 1-2 songs if money will be exchanged. If they start engaging me in conversation, laughing, and offering to buy me a drink, but then suddenly clam up and shut down when I ask about dances... that is far more annoying and time-wasting than an instant "no." lol

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    I don't think there is such things as "physical types" in the club. What I mean by that is I've seen guys been converted to totally opposite of what they are physically attracted to because the dancer appealed to his ego and made him FEEL good.

    I'm a tall 23yr old brunette who most would consider to have a slim/athletic build. The other night a guy in his early 20s picked me and did a champagne room. I didn't really talk much to him so I'm assuming he picked me on looks alone and my ability to pressure him into a room.

    During our room I could tell he was fishing for complements. He'd say stuff like "oh I bet you like dancing for young good looking guys like me so much better than those old guys." I'm a pretty attractive guy don't you think?"
    Maybe he was fishing for them because I rarely give complements. To me it's very mentally taxing to stroke egos and tell people whom i dont give a shit about, how hot, awesome, interesting, they are.

    So last night i had just finished up doing a champagne room when in walks my young guy from the night before up to the rooms with a different dancer. It didn't bother me that he was with someone else, I was just very surprised to see who he had chosen....or in this situation it was most likely who had chosen him. This dancer looks every bit of 60+yrs old....no exaggeration. It's great that she's still making money at her age and I admire her for that, but no lie...she seriously looks like a typical grandma. Very old face, very brittle damaged hair, over weight. She seems like a nice person. She gives off that loving nurturing grandma vibe. She gets young guys all the time. All I can figure is that she just must complement the shit out of theses guys and makes them feel loved? Maybe they can over look everything physical as long as they truly feel that they are wanted? (Im at a clean club with cameras in the rooms and a zero tolerance for anything dirty so I know she's not doing extras)

    So ladies, it's not your look. I'm convinced that we can get any guy on board if we just stroke that ego enough. Think about it, I'm sure most of us have dated guys who where not physically what we would fantasize about but something about their personality made us overlook the physical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaraLynn View Post
    My least favorite response is when they sit there staring into space and being short with me when I come up and say hi. It makes me feel incredibly awkward.
    THIS, so so this. I give them my "Would you do that at Applebee's?" shpiel if they're particularly shitty (and if I have the time to kill). When your pretty server at Applebee's comes to your table and asks if you'd like more water, how do you respond? Do you avoid eye contact, refuse to acknowledge her presence, act like you didn't hear the question...? A nice gentleman like yourself would surely tell her yes, please" or "no, thank you" and that would be the end of it. Don't be a dick. Treat me like a person.

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    Default Re: Would you rather a customer tell you he doesn't want you or make up an excuse?

    Wait, so yall continue to pursue it after the first no?? Have I been doing this job wrong for five years ? Haha.unless I've spent a good chunk of time and he alluded to spending money I just walk away and find another dude quick as possible, I think there's only been a couple times where I was lke "no, you're getting a dance, get the fuck up", cause I always considered it a waste of time and don't feel I should be forcing myself on customers. but maybe I've been mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by We had a rabbit like you View Post
    Wait, so yall continue to pursue it after the first no?? Have I been doing this job wrong for five years ? Haha.unless I've spent a good chunk of time and he alluded to spending money I just walk away and find another dude quick as possible, I think there's only been a couple times where I was lke "no, you're getting a dance, get the fuck up", cause I always considered it a waste of time and don't feel I should be forcing myself on customers. but maybe I've been mistaken.
    Alot of guys actually do want you but they are just intimidated/ shy around pretty girls so you have to turn up the pressure because they don't have the balls to say yes on their own. Alot of times people will do things they wouldn't necessarily want to do on their own if you can peer pressure them into it.

    One time I was at a bar and a shot girl came around and asked me if I'd like to buy a shooter. I told her "no thank you, I'll just be enjoying my mixed drinks tonight." But she didn't accept my shot rejection. She proceeded to stick the shooter in her cleavage and shove it towards my face until I felt pressured into taking it just so she would be satisfied and leave me alone. So if she had just accepted my original rejection she would have missed out on that $10 that I ended up paying her.

    I would suggest not asking a yes or no question.
    You want to make it more difficult for someone to say "no".
    So therefore you don't present "no" as even an option.
    Example: instead of saying "I'm enjoying my time with you, would you like a dance? (Yes or no)

    A better way to phrase it would be, "I'm having a great time with you, Iets turn it up a notch though...we have our per song dance booth right over there, although you look like a guy who could handle the big boy room upstairs...that's personally my favorite spot to be aswell. (Now instead of choosing yes or no, he's going to be more inclined to pick between one of two favorable options, either lapdances or champagne room.)

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    I really, honestly don't care. They can be as rude as they want to be and it doesn't get to me. Why should it? I'd actually rather deal with an asshole who tells me my tits are too small the second I sit down than with a guy who will waste my time. Doesn't affect my self-esteem. I'm still the same girl who gets tons of customers that think I'm gorgeous so why should one guy's opinion ruin that? I also don't care if they go with someone else because I have often been that someone else. If a guy looks like money and I see a less experienced dancer get rejected I have no qualms about going right over and giving it a shot myself because I hate to say it but a girl with a bad hustle makes a more experienced hustler look more desirable.

    Be bullet proof, ladies. Rude rejections are like farts in the wind. You are too good to let these guys bring you down.

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