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    Gotta disagree with most of those things. This industry can be awesome, definitely has challenges like any other industry but it's what you make of it.


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    That I was charging way less than what I should have been!.. all those years! of working my ass for just enough to pay the bills ugggh... and then I found stripperweb and raised all my rates.. Thanks STRIPPERWEB!

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    i have experienced this job in a different way

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    Interesting.
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    Just gonna leave this here...


    "1. Men can and will objectify you and it’ll jade how you think of them"


    Why is this surprising? You signed up to a porn site. People come to watch you do sexual explicit stuff and jerk off FOR A PRICE. This "I'm feeling so objectified" is just bullshit. Work on your self-esteem and start viewing yourself as a subject.


    "2 . You’ll become addicted to the money"


    I have yet to find myself getting addicted to money...


    3. I should have saved WAY sooner

    This is not limited to sexwork. This is called being an adult. You see celebs do this all the time. Spend money on frivolous bullshit and end up going bankrupt in 2 years.


    4. There IS a such thing as a “new” girl income and an “earning ceiling” as a veteran as well.

    Yeah my new girl income was $160 a week. As "veteran" I still have yet to hit the "earning ceiling." Jenn, not everyone is gonna have the same career experiences as you.


    5. No matter how secure your relationship is your partner is ALWAYS going to be jealous and not cool with your job entirely


    Not. FUCKING. True. I'm so sick and tired of camgirls and other sexworkers who don't get it that my husband is 100% supportive of my job. He has yet to shown me the four years I've been at this any jealously. Nothing but encouragement, support, and love. Just because your partner is being a jealous insecure twat, doesn't mean mine one day will.


    6. Often you’re going to do things that make you feel morally wrong, dirty or you’re not ok with after you’ve done them.


    Often? Never. I've never felt this. Because anytime someone came to me with a show that I feel is morally wrong, I said no. Even if I really needed that extra $40, still nope.


    7. There are ALOT of guys who do drugs on webcam and you have to either say NO that’s a limit or accept it and look away because often those guys are the ones who have a shit ton of money.


    As a recovered opiate user (7 years sober), I don't condone any drug use in my shows. If I see a dude smoking a crack pipe, I turn off his cam and refuse to indulge in any drug play. Just because someone has a shit ton of money, isn't going to make me bend my morals so I can get paid.


    8. Know your limits and stick to them!

    Seriously. Write out a list and frame it. Live by it. Because 6-7 will never become an issue if you do.


    9. You’re gonna eventually develop a crush on a regular.

    Not. Everyone. Is. Going. To. Have. The. Same. Experiences. As. You.


    10. The more a guy spends, often the weirder he gets, don’t lead him on and he’ll either respect you more or show his true colors and save you ALOT of headaches!

    Often? Man we must have different clients. Because of the four years I've done this, maybe three got weird. Remember your limits? Stick to them, don't let your clients get out of hand. Say no!





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    What part of this is her experience did no one get?
    Read the title of the post. Ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by icamthereforeiam View Post
    What part of this is her experience did no one get?
    Read the title of the post. Ha ha
    She is totally projecting her insecurities onto us with lack of nuance. I disagree with most she posted. If you agree or feel the same as OP, you should probably stop being a cammodel.





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    Quote Originally Posted by audritwo View Post
    She is totally projecting her insecurities onto us with lack of nuance. I disagree with most she posted. If you agree or feel the same as OP, you should probably stop being a cammodel.
    Yeah, to me this was less of "let's make a list of the interesting things that surprise us" and more "I am really burned out and need to tell everyone how awful cam is and pretend it isn't just me by making this seem like a group thread".

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    Hi Jenn,

    I'm very sorry your camming experience was such a negative one... Perhaps this wasn't the right job for you? You have to enjoy what you do at least a little bit, or be ok with it. and from what you wrote above it sounds like you didn't really feel ok with doing it at all... Also, it is very important to remember this: NEVER take it personally!

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    uhhh....

    1. Men can and will objectify you and it’ll jade how you think of them

    Please, men are not the enemy in this situation. We get objectified in EVERY day life. By the media, by men, by women. YOU have the ability to control it and capitalize on something that everyone else turns into a negative and thinks is out of their control. What do you think is going to happen as a camgirl? You would rather him come in and say "I would love to take you exclusive and pay you per minute to live out the fantasy in my head, but I respect both you and my real life relationships too much to do so." Get real about what your job description is.

    If you want to get technical, I objectify the hell out of the customers, so I expect them to do the same. They are not people, they are wallets. Period.

    2 . You’ll become addicted to the money

    I would rather be addicted to making money than live paycheck to paycheck working for someone else.

    4. There IS a such thing as a “new” girl income and an “earning ceiling” as a veteran as well.

    If you have hit an "earning ceiling" then it's time to adapt your hustle. Ceilings can be broken, and if you hit a plateau it's time to innovate. If you're constantly working on improving your craft and staying on top of whats popular and what sells, there is no reason to hit a "ceiling" that you can't overcome. You aren't a person, you're a product. If the iphone stuck with it's original design, their profitability would be non-existent.

    5. No matter how secure your relationship is your partner is ALWAYS going to be jealous and not cool with your job entirely

    This is ridiculous. My boyfriend of 4 years has been NOTHING but 100% supportive. He's the one holding the camera most of the time. Without him, my business wouldn't be anywhere near as successful. Just because there are some bad apples doesn't mean the whole orchard is bad, and frankly this statement that blankets all partners under one roof of insecurities is offensive. Not Everyone Has These Issues, because not everyone is the same. I really wish that people would stop projecting their own relationship issues as something that is wrong with all relationships as a whole.

    6. Often you’re going to do things that make you feel morally wrong, dirty or you’re not ok with after you’ve done them.

    Nope. I have my rules and my limits and no dollar amount is enough to make me bend or break those.


    7. There are ALOT of guys who do drugs on webcam and you have to either say NO that’s a limit or accept it and look away because often those guys are the ones who have a shit ton of money.


    I was in the hospital and then in rehab detoxing from a severe crack addiction when I was 17 years old. I make it VERY clear in my room that I do not do shows about drug play. At all. Ever. I have not run into this issue a single time because the people I allow in my room and in my shows understand that I'm the one running the show, not them. I don't give a fuck how much money they have.

    8. Know your limits and stick to them!

    This I totally agree with.

    9. You’re gonna eventually develop a crush on a regular.

    Nope.


    10. The more a guy spends, often the weirder he gets, don’t lead him on and he’ll either respect you more or show his true colors and save you ALOT of headaches!


    This would be avoided completely if you maintain that they are nothing more than wallets. They stop spending, you cut them off. Headache avoided.

    11. You are NOT your fucking cam show!

    People have different hustle styles. For me, injecting my real personality into my shows and into my product/online personality is 100% how I make my money. It's not something I turn off. There are some things I may tone down, but I make long term money from people getting to know the real me. In many ways, Ivy is more the real me than pre-Ivy ever was.

    .... so... I disagree with most of these points. New models come on here, read these things and take them as fact when it's important for them to realize that there is no magic book they can read to know what to expect. Everyone has a different experience and generalizations of the camming industry as a whole isn't going to do anyone any favors.


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    I disagree with a broad majority of the OP, but #5 REALLY got to me. Not all men are jealous douchebags. My guy was excited when I approached him about camming! He is very supportive, gives me tips on how men think and has even gone far enough to get approved to come in and cam with me when I get requests for couples action. There is not a lick of jealousy, ever. Even when I am sweet talking a regular and having a great time, he knows it's part of the hustle and he knows where my loyalties are.

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    When I opened this thread, I assumed everyone got the gist it was "what I wish I would've known" and then it seems ppl are just not getting it, (well, one did, glad you raised your rates bb! and doing better than you did before.) but instead attacking the OP what her experiences are. Since when are we one person? who are we to judge? This woman has feelings. not to be attacked.
    It felt like a good thread to start and then everyone else chime in with what they wish they would've known. I never once read her thread post and thought she is referring to myself but instead this is her experience.
    Everyone is different. PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THIS. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW HOW IT IMPACTED SOME and save heartache in the future if its not what they want to deal with in life.
    If you agree with the OP, that is great! If you dont... thats great too! but damn to say someone is burnt out in the tones I read is just ridiculous.
    Some replies were nice but to pull apart her thread and judge her on her own experiences is just WRONG
    List your own "wish I wouldve known" and then lets all compare and see what the majority experience overall. we all experience different levels of "wish I would've known" and over a course of time it might change but we dont forget our experiences.


    Hey Jen!
    I didnt know this was you all these years on sw I love your style. Always so well put together and sexy as hell.

    we all experience different levels of "wish I would've known" and over a course of time it might change but we dont forget our experiences.
    Congrats on rehabilitation! awesome you are improving your life over all.

    optimism is great when dealing with huge groups of women.
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    I would like to answer the questions you post, Jenn. Your experience is interesting to say the least.


    1. Men can and will objectify you and it’ll jade how you think of them

    I was already jaded at least 10 years before I got into this industry.


    2 . You’ll become addicted to the money

    Again, I always thinking about money and power before this industry.

    3. I should have saved WAY sooner

    This is with any job.

    4. There IS a such thing as a “new” girl income and an “earning ceiling” as a veteran as well.

    Not my experience, I believe there is no such thing as earning ceiling in the cam or the rest of the industry. Maybe in porn.

    5. No matter how secure your relationship is your partner is ALWAYS going to be jealous and not cool with your job entirely

    Ummm...men know how I feel about them talking about their jealously. I tell them this is just a career to me but they can hit the door if they do not like it.

    6. Often you’re going to do things that make you feel morally wrong, dirty or you’re not ok with after you’ve done them.

    No, I do not engaged in things that make me feel morally wrong.


    7. There are ALOT of guys who do drugs on webcam and you have to either say NO that’s a limit or accept it and look away because often those guys are the ones who have a shit ton of money.

    Never experience this one.

    8. Know your limits and stick to them!

    I stick to my limits overall and I do not have any problems.

    9. You’re gonna eventually develop a crush on a regular.

    Sorry but this is the one that I find the grossest on your list. Why would anyone want to be intimate with their customers outside of the business transaction? I will not be looking into my customer pool for boyfriends, best friends, baby daddies, and future ex-husbands. They are customers who buy my services....nothing more or less. This is just a career to some of us. Not a place to look for dick.

    10. The more a guy spends, often the weirder he gets, don’t lead him on and he’ll either respect you more or show his true colors and save you ALOT of headaches!

    Not true in my experience.

    11. You are NOT your fucking cam show!

    Again, I know the difference between my cam personas and my true self.

    12. Your fantasies are not as weird as you think

    Ummm....again this is just a career.

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    Im really trying to come up with "wish I would've known" but I cant come up with anything I didn't experience mentally on my own before cam. I was also in my 30s, former escort dancer and all that jazz so being on cam was actually a breath of fresh air for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika_Xstacy View Post
    When I opened this thread, I assumed everyone got the gist it was "what I wish I would've known" and then it seems ppl are just not getting it, (well, one did, glad you raised your rates bb! and doing better than you did before.) but instead attacking the OP what her experiences are. Since when are we one person? who are we to judge? This woman has feelings. not to be attacked.
    It felt like a good thread to start and then everyone else chime in with what they wish they would've known. I never once read her thread post and thought she is referring to myself but instead this is her experience.
    Everyone is different. PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THIS. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW HOW IT IMPACTED SOME and save heartache in the future if its not what they want to deal with in life.
    If you agree with the OP, that is great! If you dont... thats great too! but damn to say someone is burnt out in the tones I read is just ridiculous.
    Some replies were nice but to pull apart her thread and judge her on her own experiences is just WRONG
    List your own "wish I wouldve known" and then lets all compare and see what the majority experience overall. we all experience different levels of "wish I would've known" and over a course of time it might change but we dont forget our experiences.


    Hey Jen!
    I didnt know this was you all these years on sw I love your style. Always so well put together and sexy as hell.

    we all experience different levels of "wish I would've known" and over a course of time it might change but we dont forget our experiences.
    Congrats on rehabilitation! awesome you are improving your life over all.

    optimism is great when dealing with huge groups of women.
    I'm all for people posting about experiences and things they wish they knew beforehand, but come on. You can't post a thread with generalizations using words like "WILL HAPPEN" and "ALWAYS" and expect people not to pick it apart. Regardless of how the OP meant for it to come across, it reads like fact even though it is clearly opinion. To me, it didn't have the "lets all share" vibe it was more of an.. "I'm a Veteran and this is what will happen so prepare yourselves."

    Personally, my response wasn't about judging anyone about their experience, nor was it made in an effort to attack. I was responding to a thread made in a tone that I took offense to because it read in a sense of representing the industry as a whole, and it doesn't represent MY experience.

    If it was "Relationships can be hard" as opposed to "ALL Relationships Will Deal with Jealousy" or "I have had to learn my limits because of experiencing morally degrading things" as opposed to "YOU WILL do things that will be degrading" or even "It's possible to fall for a client" as opposed to " You WILL fall for a client" then maybe the main point of what this thread was supposed to be would have been received better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IvyAdams View Post
    I'm all for people posting about experiences and things they wish they knew beforehand, but come on. You can't post a thread with generalizations using words like "WILL HAPPEN" and "ALWAYS" and expect people not to pick it apart. Regardless of how the OP meant for it to come across, it reads like fact even though it is clearly opinion. To me, it didn't have the "lets all share" vibe it was more of an.. "I'm a Veteran and this is what will happen so prepare yourselves."

    Personally, my response wasn't about judging anyone about their experience, nor was it made in an effort to attack. I was responding to a thread made in a tone that I took offense to because it read in a sense of representing the industry as a whole, and it doesn't represent MY experience.

    If it was "Relationships can be hard" as opposed to "ALL Relationships Will Deal with Jealousy" or "I have had to learn my limits because of experiencing morally degrading things" as opposed to "YOU WILL do things that will be degrading" or even "It's possible to fall for a client" as opposed to " You WILL fall for a client" then maybe the main point of what this thread was supposed to be would have been received better.
    I agree about wording. wording is everything but sometimes we are not thinking whenwriting our feelings out. I also see were the OP was speaking in general. Thats how I perceived it bc of the title.. I have worded things as " you will " but have ended posts such as those in the end as " These are my experiences only" , "dont go by my word, just that was/is my experience" I have gone back in to edit and say that bc ppl would have thought I was saying everyone this will happen to you when really I meant I experienced it so dont be shocked if you do.
    And maybe she will do the same not realizing it came across as everyone will experience this. Honestly dont know how she meant it so if it was just speaking in general
    I hope that makes sense , my words started running together
    and all of us must consider, different regions have different ways of wording things, not meant to be perceived the way it was.
    I have seen many sw posts taken way out of context and members ran off bc of simple misunderstanding of the post. This forum can be very bullyish and we dont know what are others are going through but Jenn told us what she has experienced and how it made her feel. I would expect more support for a bummed camgirl and obviously looking for support even if its hearing what others go through or they can relate. <--- Those are the people she was referring to. I feel.
    Not many camgirls swallow their pride and say "hey, this shit got me"
    noone will have the exact same experience in any business or life in general
    The title included I so I just read all the post and knew she experienced this
    This forum is where we come for support not to be broken down more.

    Everyone can say fuck erika for stating this but it is what it is, a community of support.
    Fuck newbies trolling the board, let them get their experience in, We feel that way when they ask about new camsites. try new camsites, read this board and get as much info as possible and that includes how this job effects others. I cant tell another girl if she will like it but i can say "you will experience" from my experiences and she might tell me later she did or did not experience shit but thank me for putting the warning out there.

    some models are not so lucky to have awesome partners, not fall into your character too much etc. Not realize how drugs do play into this job even on cam, how money hungry we can get, it happens. We become our character, it happens. How to separate your gig from your life. I see a lot ore than most realize fall into a lot of things she stated.
    Sadly it does happen as she experienced but it also sounds she realizes this and that takes a lot of growing when a camgirl takes notes on herself.

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    Yeah. I thought that got kinda heavy handed on her real quick too. I didn't have any problem with her stating her opinion. Then again I'm sure I'm not known as a giant ray of sunshine on the forum myself.
    The only thing I can add to the thread is I wish I had known it was going to be WORK before I started. I just looked at it like - well, I should make $$$ b/c it's porn.
    Now. You all can laugh at me b/c that was totally naive.

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    I would just like to say that you are one Smart Cookie and have a good head on your shoulders!... I am crushin on ya' ....hehehe

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    uhhh....

    1. Men can and will objectify you and it’ll jade how you think of them

    Please, men are not the enemy in this situation. We get objectified in EVERY day life. By the media, by men, by women. YOU have the ability to control it and capitalize on something that everyone else turns into a negative and thinks is out of their control. What do you think is going to happen as a camgirl? You would rather him come in and say "I would love to take you exclusive and pay you per minute to live out the fantasy in my head, but I respect both you and my real life relationships too much to do so." Get real about what your job description is.

    If you want to get technical, I objectify the hell out of the customers, so I expect them to do the same. They are not people, they are wallets. Period.

    2 . You’ll become addicted to the money

    I would rather be addicted to making money than live paycheck to paycheck working for someone else.

    4. There IS a such thing as a “new” girl income and an “earning ceiling” as a veteran as well.

    If you have hit an "earning ceiling" then it's time to adapt your hustle. Ceilings can be broken, and if you hit a plateau it's time to innovate. If you're constantly working on improving your craft and staying on top of whats popular and what sells, there is no reason to hit a "ceiling" that you can't overcome. You aren't a person, you're a product. If the iphone stuck with it's original design, their profitability would be non-existent.

    5. No matter how secure your relationship is your partner is ALWAYS going to be jealous and not cool with your job entirely

    This is ridiculous. My boyfriend of 4 years has been NOTHING but 100% supportive. He's the one holding the camera most of the time. Without him, my business wouldn't be anywhere near as successful. Just because there are some bad apples doesn't mean the whole orchard is bad, and frankly this statement that blankets all partners under one roof of insecurities is offensive. Not Everyone Has These Issues, because not everyone is the same. I really wish that people would stop projecting their own relationship issues as something that is wrong with all relationships as a whole.

    6. Often you’re going to do things that make you feel morally wrong, dirty or you’re not ok with after you’ve done them.

    Nope. I have my rules and my limits and no dollar amount is enough to make me bend or break those.


    7. There are ALOT of guys who do drugs on webcam and you have to either say NO that’s a limit or accept it and look away because often those guys are the ones who have a shit ton of money.


    I was in the hospital and then in rehab detoxing from a severe crack addiction when I was 17 years old. I make it VERY clear in my room that I do not do shows about drug play. At all. Ever. I have not run into this issue a single time because the people I allow in my room and in my shows understand that I'm the one running the show, not them. I don't give a fuck how much money they have.

    8. Know your limits and stick to them!

    This I totally agree with.

    9. You’re gonna eventually develop a crush on a regular.

    Nope.


    10. The more a guy spends, often the weirder he gets, don’t lead him on and he’ll either respect you more or show his true colors and save you ALOT of headaches!


    This would be avoided completely if you maintain that they are nothing more than wallets. They stop spending, you cut them off. Headache avoided.

    11. You are NOT your fucking cam show!

    People have different hustle styles. For me, injecting my real personality into my shows and into my product/online personality is 100% how I make my money. It's not something I turn off. There are some things I may tone down, but I make long term money from people getting to know the real me. In many ways, Ivy is more the real me than pre-Ivy ever was.

    .... so... I disagree with most of these points. New models come on here, read these things and take them as fact when it's important for them to realize that there is no magic book they can read to know what to expect. Everyone has a different experience and generalizations of the camming industry as a whole isn't going to do anyone any favors.

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    I just want to say how much I also admire you OP. You are the reason I'm such a strong minded tough cookie on cam...you're an inspiration and I love watching you when you're online.

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    I also would like to say the drug addicts are one of my favorite customers! PLease send them over if you are not interested in them, I enjoy their money..hehe I derive pleasure out of their money. I am in no way responsible for their drug habits, If they wanna do drugs that's of no concern of mine.. Also never been a drug addict so it doesn't bother me.. Just love their money , so I don't care.. Maybe I have been doing this to long to care .. doesn't bother me in the least.

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    Jenn,
    I'm just gonna assume that you are sharing your experience. An experience is uniquely and validly yours. Something I don't have the right to agree or disagree with so I'll just share my thoughts.

    1. Men can and will objectify you and it’ll jade how you think of them
    Men will objectify you regardless of what kind of work you do but that's not a bad thing if you know how to use it to your advantage. If they didn't objectified, sexualized or fetishized we would be out of business.

    Don't get jaded, get PAID!

    5. No matter how secure your relationship is your partner is ALWAYS going to be jealous and not cool with your job entirely
    Your partner probably is already jealous, insecure and judgmental all along. Camming just magnified everything.

    6. Often you’re going to do things that make you feel morally wrong, dirty or you’re not ok with after you’ve done them.
    People will behave badly and push your limits when you don't set clear boundaries of what you will and won't do. Knowing when to say no is just as important as knowing when to say yes. It's perfectly okay and healthy to say 'That DOESN'T work for me!'. When you don't set boundaries on cam it's very highly that you don't set them off cam.

    9. You’re gonna eventually develop a crush on a regular.
    I'm immune to that disease.

    10. The more a guy spends, often the weirder he gets, don’t lead him on and he’ll either respect you more or show his true colors and save you ALOT of headaches!
    ONLY if you allow it because you are in charge. You are always in charge!

    11. You are NOT your fucking cam show!
    Absolutely because you are NOT what you do nor defined by it. This goes beyond camming, apply where fits.

    12. Your fantasies are not as weird as you think
    Weird is good so just fucking own it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by audritwo View Post
    5. No matter how secure your relationship is your partner is ALWAYS going to be jealous and not cool with your job entirely


    Not. FUCKING. True. I'm so sick and tired of camgirls and other sexworkers who don't get it that my husband is 100% supportive of my job. He has yet to shown me the four years I've been at this any jealously. Nothing but encouragement, support, and love. Just because your partner is being a jealous insecure twat, doesn't mean mine one day will.
    I was super confused by her statement as well. If you have a partner who isn't 100% supportive about you doing sex work then it isn't your choice of doing sex work that is the problem.....it is your choice of partner.

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    The one thing I wish I knew before I started camming was how many scams there was out there who specifically set out their nets to fish for camgirls. I was pretty naive about everything when I started. Thanks goodness for Stripperweb as I was literally clicks away from signing up for a studio. Not to mention all the Wile E. Coyote plans that guys will use to try to scam free stuff.

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