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    Angry Rude photographer?

    Yesterday I did a photoshoot with a photographer I've worked with several times before. In the past we've had zero issues and he seemed like a pretty chill dude. (He's older, 45 or so, and has been shooting for several years). Since our last shoot, I changed my boobs and hair color (I know they look good so whatever) and I'm not sure if that's relevant to his change in behavior or what. But he made a series of rude comments towards my appearance throughout the shoot. One or two could have been overlooked as bad phrasing, but all of them put together have me pretty mad. Here are some of the comments:

    (When talking about which side is my "good side"): "Your left eye is bigger than your right eye, so let's shoot from this angle"
    "How much do you weigh? 125?" (Um, you can see what I look like. Why does the number matter? I'm 117, by the way)
    (When looking at a butt shot of a bodybuilder whose pose we were using) "Hmm. The ass isn't as good but your legs are better""
    (When talking about my lip filler) "I was going to say one side of your lip seemed uneven but I think it was just your lipstick"

    I can see how maybe he was just thinking out loud when planning poses and everything, but I'm not wrong to find that super unprofessional, right? I got angry when he made the butt comment and he seemed truly surprised. He then went on to say he didn't mean it like that, I have a great butt etc. Um no shit it's nice idiot...

    He usually sends me every one of my photos not long after the shoot. Once I get them I plan to tell him his comments were unprofessional and to be more aware when speaking about women's bodies. Anyways I just wanted some second opinions on this whole thing to make sure I'm not overreacting

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    damn he would have made me feel horrible at the shoot! yea super rude for sure, I wouldn't use him again.

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    So annoying. I want to slap the taste out of men's mouths when they try to critique women's bodies. If the shoe were on the other foot and we critiqued his looks, body, penis size, and bank account I'm sure he'd score low.

    Sounds like he was being a douche for no reason. I mean he knew what you looked like before starting the shoot and if your look bothered him that much he could have asked for your current look/photos before the shoot or not even started the shoot if you weren't what he was looking for but instead he went through with the shoot and was slick insulting you the entire time. That's not what he is supposed to do. The photographer is supposed to help you get the best angles and best looks and help you bring out the emotion for that particular shoot. Their supposed to build you up not tear you down. Wtf?!?

    It's over now so not much you can do except maybe talk to him about it or just warn other girls about your experience with him. But yeah in the future probably best to say something right then like I would appreciate if you would stop insulting and critiquing my looks and simply take the pictures like you're supposed to do cause if you don't have anything nice to say you shouldn't say anything.
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    He might have just been having a bad 'unfiltered' day.. Agreed some of the things were crude, putting the larger eye or breast farther from the camera is something a good photographer should do - He gets points for noticing, and compensating, but should have been more tactful explaining. SOmetimes I forget myself, dealing with the technical and graphic / posing details... Photographers, like escorts and dancers are also creating fantasies, it is always best to do it 'in-camera' w lighting and posing vs after w PS. (As well as being able to say 'Professional photos but no PS'...) Think of it as using makeup to cover a blemish vs editing it later... So up to you - if you like the results, talk to him, let him know his comments made it harder for you, that even though you know each other he should still bring his A-Game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFMNH44 View Post
    He might have just been having a bad 'unfiltered' day.. Agreed some of the things were crude, putting the larger eye or breast farther from the camera is something a good photographer should do - He gets points for noticing, and compensating, but should have been more tactful explaining. SOmetimes I forget myself, dealing with the technical and graphic / posing details... Photographers, like escorts and dancers are also creating fantasies, it is always best to do it 'in-camera' w lighting and posing vs after w PS. (As well as being able to say 'Professional photos but no PS'...) Think of it as using makeup to cover a blemish vs editing it later... So up to you - if you like the results, talk to him, let him know his comments made it harder for you, that even though you know each other he should still bring his A-Game.
    Yeah, I can see how the whole eye thing was just part of being a good photographer. No ones face is perfectly symmetrical and I've never been self conscious about it. It wouldn't have bothered me had he not also guessed my weight and compared my body to someone else's. . I'll probably not shoot with him again simply because there are many photographers smart enough not to act like that

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    He just sounds like a guy to be honest, very unaware and technical. Women can be sensitive about body/appearance comments. But I think the best way to handle it is shut him down as soon as he says something rude. Like, "Keep your comments to yourself, sir and let me work" or just stop and stare at him like a zombie and ask him is he done making backhanded comments. You don't have to be mean, you can even say it with a smirk but make it known right then and there that you're not having it. Let's face it a good photographer is hard to find, some try to fuck you during the shoot some do a half-as job. So if a few insensitive male comments is all you have to contend with deal with that shit quick and keep working.

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    I've had a similar experience with a photographer. On one hand I suppose he was thinking from a technical standpoint and was direct and vocal about that but without thinking of how someone might take those comments (which I agree is actually not very smart because good photographers make their subjects feel comfortable).

    I also think that similar to some men who come to strip clubs, some photographers get a little ego boost from being able to critique/neg women who very likely wouldn't ever even look their way in everyday circumstances.

    His loss.

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    Not one person on the planet of this earth is perfectly symmetrical, so I don't understand what the purpose would be of him **vocally** stating what could have already been obvious to you about your looks ( which he already seemed to be a little off on by your description of yourself ) . If his criticisms weren't helping him do HIS job to make you more aware of your body/movements for the sake of capturing a stellar photo of you and only ended up making you uncomfortable/upset, then that will only show in his work. Cause and effect. I second the lack of professionalism here. A person can be technical and personable!

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    He sounds like a good photographer not to work with again to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AubreyDabi View Post
    He just sounds like a guy to be honest, very unaware and technical. Women can be sensitive about body/appearance comments. But I think the best way to handle it is shut him down as soon as he says something rude. Like, "Keep your comments to yourself, sir and let me work" or just stop and stare at him like a zombie and ask him is he done making backhanded comments. You don't have to be mean, you can even say it with a smirk but make it known right then and there that you're not having it. Let's face it a good photographer is hard to find, some try to fuck you during the shoot some do a half-as job. So if a few insensitive male comments is all you have to contend with deal with that shit quick and keep working.
    lol very true...the eye comment was the first one he made, and when he said it I told him "My eyes are fine. Don't mess with my confidence before shooting or it will affect the photos" to which he explained that nobody has a symmetrical face and he was just trying to find the best angle. I straight up snapped at him when he made the ass comment and told him he was being rude. He acted legitimately shocked by my reaction but as far as I'm concerned that merely proves his stupidity even further

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    ^^ A photographer said the same thing to me, about the asymmetry about my face while I was taking headshots. He did a horrible job and long story short I can't use the photos. He pissed me off and frustrated me throughout the shoot and I almost feel better off taking my own damn photos. My own selfies turn out better!

    Why can't they direct the shoot without making us feel uncomfortable?

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    This is actually a good thread for photographers - to see from the model's perspective. The photographer's job is to make people look their best, which usually means compensating for asymmetry, hiding wrinkles... thinking that but saying something positive, building the model's confidence, making her feel beautiful so it gets captured. ("Turn your lovely face slightly towards me" when you're thinking this makes your nose protrude less...) Not saying the OP's photog wasn't a doush-nozzle, but a good reminder to say the positive!
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    I'm LOL'n @ the responses giving this guy a pass. Seriously? This was UNACCEPTABLE. Say it with me, UNACCEPTABLE!
    Girl, I'm surprised you didn't slap the taste out of his mouth. I'm sorry but i'm not going to pay a photographer to make me feel like shit.
    That does not happen in my world. I would have went ballistic. You're better than me LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbsmgirl View Post
    I'm LOL'n @ the responses giving this guy a pass. Seriously? This was UNACCEPTABLE. Say it with me, UNACCEPTABLE!
    Girl, I'm surprised you didn't slap the taste out of his mouth. I'm sorry but i'm not going to pay a photographer to make me feel like shit.
    That does not happen in my world. I would have went ballistic. You're better than me LOL!
    Glad you agree with me. Fortunately I didn't pay him lol, we worked on a time for print basis (something I rarely do, but he gives me every single photo and his work is usually nice). But thank you for reassuring me that I wasn't overreacting. I texted him respectfully with specific examples of how his comments were inappropriate, and all he said was "sorry you feel that way." I'm tempted to leave him a crappy review somewhere (he is on several websites lol) but I probably won't. For those wondering though, it's JCP photography in Portland, Oregon. So if any other Portland models encounter him I'd recommend choosing someone else.

    The photos were great the first half of the shoot, then you can visibly see the difference after his rude comments. Just goes to show that confidence is equally important as looks when it comes to sexiness.

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