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    I have found the last few weeks possibly due to summer lag and not such wonderful quality clients on SM &AW in particular that I pay more attention to what people are saying in my room and try to hussle a bit harder.

    Everyone seems to think anal is standard- I don't do it and never have

    I am forever getting asked to Dom when my profile is sub

    I always thought that it was best to stick with a few specialisms but not im wondering if I should diversify? I normally August permitting make what I'm happy with and im one of the more expensive models on AW especially but I'm pretty marmite I have people that love me and come back over and over or that hang up on phone chat or just cut me off for not being fast enough!

    So daily turning away a lot of shows maybe 3 or 4 which right now would be fab.

    Has anyone moved into things they initially didn't feel comfortable with or learned a skill? I know nothing about being a Dom and have never really played with anal but I guess maybe I should?

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    I flat out tell people no when they ask if I can deep throat, I also tell them no toys for anal. Do what you comfortable with so you are happy, only this way you won't get burn out from this job. It's already hard on your body, don't make it hard on your mind too!
    But if you are interested in learning these skills then go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petite- View Post
    I flat out tell people no when they ask if I can deep throat, I also tell them no toys for anal. Do what you comfortable with so you are happy, only this way you won't get burn out from this job. It's already hard on your body, don't make it hard on your mind too!
    But if you are interested in learning these skills then go for it.
    There is a very greedy person inside of me that wants to say yes to everything but I think you are right. This is the only night this week I'm not working and I'm here reading and trying to work out the next money making scheme!!

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    For me, I've moved out of my comfort zone many times for clients, especially on SM. I must stress, I don't take shows that make me feel weird and uncomfortable or push my set boundaries. However, there are some roleplays that I'll want to turn down because it isn't really what I "do." When it comes down to it, I usually accept and just give it a try.

    Most of the time, I walk away with a changed opinion and feeling like I learned something new, or that now I'm more experienced. c: But yeah, there are times that my initial hesitance was correct, that it *wasn't* what I want to fux with, good thing I know that for sure now.

    I would say there's nothing wrong with stepping outside of your usual. For sure I think it's a great idea to snatch up some privates while getting a taste for something different, as long as you feel comfy doing so! :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horny View Post
    There is a very greedy person inside of me that wants to say yes to everything but I think you are right. This is the only night this week I'm not working and I'm here reading and trying to work out the next money making scheme!!
    I learned a few things for camming, that I got common requests for but used to say no to (omg my first few JOI shows were HORRIBLE). However, there are some things I have researched, tried, and still feel like I suck at. And you know what? I say no to those shows. It is hard to turn down money, but I would rather they find someone else and have a GREAT show than spend their money on me and end up disappointed. Because of this guys give me great reviews and some of the guys I have turned down have later come back when they're looking for something else because I was honest with them before.

    One thing to remember is that there is no 1 way to do things. I do SOME anal, with specific toys. I am clear about what they get with me for anal, and that's it. I don't let them push me past what I am comfortable with. Similarly my domme style is very specific, and I describe it to guys who want domination shows. Some guys don't like that type of domme, so they go elsewhere, but the guys who like my style love it. Only do what you like and are comfortable with, because guys KNOW when you are just doing it for the money and you hate doing it. Most guys don't want to pay for someone to do a half-ass job of something they don't enjoy. Don't feel bad about saying no to some stuff, focus on what you are good at, be GREAT at it.

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    Ive been around but I remember going through this and honestly I have mood changes with performing
    If Im in the mood to try it, I will try it.

    I have only made the transition into things per requests.
    I never did anal until a year into cam, now I prefer it over the other.

    Roleplay/ mom? hell no
    Now, Im playing head of household to brothers and sisters, playing into these fetishes that once bothered me.

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    I'm a Jack OFF All Trades, bb! XD

    I think Sanachan and Bootsie had some great advice. There's a difference between feeling uncomfortable because you have physical, mental, or moral issues with something versus feeling uncomfortable with something because you think you're going to suck at it. In the latter case, there's really no harm in trying it out - preferably with guys that aren't regulars, so if you do suck the first few times, you only lose a custie that you would've turned down anyway. Also, it's okay to let them know you're not an expert. If you indicate that you haven't done a lot of ____ but that you've really been wanting to try it, a lot of guys are cool with that. Many of them are happy with enthusiasm in place of expertise, and those that are looking for someone experienced will thank you for your honesty.

    As to domming as a sub, when I started camming, I thought I was entirely a sub, and was sad that there were relatively few Doms that wanted to play with me. There were just tons and tons of subby guys that would come to my room and want me to be their "Mistress." It irritated me. I started to feel like any man who wasn't a Dom was just a worthless nuisance. I found I wanted to slap them all and step on their faces. And then I had a light bulb moment, and realized I could use that sentiment to be a Domme.
    I didn't realize it right away, but I was also pretty good at SPH from the start. I have too many real life experiences where a guy flirted well and talked a good game, then his cock was just too small to be worth it, but I didn't feel comfortable stopping the sex because of his small dick. I know it's horrible, but those incidents really irritated me. I honestly wanted to yell at those guys for letting me waste time and energy on a truly disappointing fuck. Especially since afterward, they did the typical male ego thing and wanted to hear all about how awesome it was for me.
    So yeah, if you feel some irritation toward the subby guys, you can harness that feeling and mix it with a little bit of research, and voilą!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical_Hoohah View Post
    I'm a Jack OFF All Trades, bb! XD

    I think Sanachan and Bootsie had some great advice. There's a difference between feeling uncomfortable because you have physical, mental, or moral issues with something versus feeling uncomfortable with something because you think you're going to suck at it. In the latter case, there's really no harm in trying it out - preferably with guys that aren't regulars, so if you do suck the first few times, you only lose a custie that you would've turned down anyway. Also, it's okay to let them know you're not an expert. If you indicate that you haven't done a lot of ____ but that you've really been wanting to try it, a lot of guys are cool with that. Many of them are happy with enthusiasm in place of expertise, and those that are looking for someone experienced will thank you for your honesty.

    As to domming as a sub, when I started camming, I thought I was entirely a sub, and was sad that there were relatively few Doms that wanted to play with me. There were just tons and tons of subby guys that would come to my room and want me to be their "Mistress." It irritated me. I started to feel like any man who wasn't a Dom was just a worthless nuisance. I found I wanted to slap them all and step on their faces. And then I had a light bulb moment, and realized I could use that sentiment to be a Domme.
    I didn't realize it right away, but I was also pretty good at SPH from the start. I have too many real life experiences where a guy flirted well and talked a good game, then his cock was just too small to be worth it, but I didn't feel comfortable stopping the sex because of his small dick. I know it's horrible, but those incidents really irritated me. I honestly wanted to yell at those guys for letting me waste time and energy on a truly disappointing fuck. Especially since afterward, they did the typical male ego thing and wanted to hear all about how awesome it was for me.
    So yeah, if you feel some irritation toward the subby guys, you can harness that feeling and mix it with a little bit of research, and voilą!
    This is just it I want to scream read my profile! I am sure I could find some anger from somewhere it's just knowing what is required I may have a little look into that thank you all for some great advice as ever.

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    I'm interested in reading responses cause I've had similar thoughts about the dom thing, I'm a sub but on AW have very rarely ran into any dom clients who aren't freeloaders/want to meet, but I get a lot of subs coming into my room so I'm thinking about maybe reading up into how to do that hm

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    I'll do whatever it takes to get the job done, as long as it's not against site rules.
    I've always been like this as far back as I can remember. With work..with everything.
    I'm a domme, so the first time I was asked to switch and be sub on cam, I kind of hesitated.
    However, I said yes to the session.
    All the guy wanted was for me to kneel and tell him how badly I wanted his cock. I'm thinking, "Is that it?"
    It was hard to keep from laughing.
    Now, I'm sure a true sub session is much more than that, but...
    My point is. Try something that might be out of your comfort zone. You might find that not only do you like it. But that you're really good at it.

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    I learned about loads of things, specifically fetishes and jerk off instruction, because i thought I may enjoy them and at least wanted to have a basic understanding of them for my clients. I started out with my boundaries including no anal, no large toys, no submission, and no animal/bestiality talk. All of these I've stuck with despite increasing demand. On occasion I will play with submissive tendencies or tease my fingers over my ass (No penetration or toys), but only with close regulars and when I have felt particularly inclined to loosen up a bit. I am of the opinion that there are 3 essential things you need to think about i nthe process of becomming a camgirl/ better camgirl:

    Boundaries: Define your definite no-no's before you start and never compromise on them. The maybe's can be negotiated (i.e. I don't like anal so don't offer it, but I am not dead set against it so under the right circumstances I may tease as described above)

    Education - Even if you're never going to do it, learn about it. The more you know about sex, sexuality, fetish, and the psychology behind them, the more power you have and the greater experience you can provide your clients.

    Confidence - No matter how many times someone says to you "you will make more if you do x,y,z", "but so and so does x,y,z so you should too", "oh go on, just for me" etc etc etc, remember that THEY are the ones that need you! No matter how many other camgirls there are, there will always be more clients. If it's a maybe and you're feeling so inclined, go for it, play, explore. There's no harm or shame in later saying you didn't enjoy it and won't be doing it again. Likewise if it's a topic you're not familiar with or don't know if you can pull off, go for it anyway, you never know until you try! But if it's something you are absolutely not comfortable with, or the client just gives you the creeps then don't do it. No need for explanation or feeling bad, just straight up sorry no... next topic.

    You can't be all things to all people and shouldn't feel bad because you're not. Having a target clientele helps a lot with this (market your profile, your advertising, your clothing, your demeanour etc towards them). For example I focus primarily on older, wealthy, kinky guys, who like upper class femme fatales. I get a lot of guys this way who like elements of donination but more along the lines of addiction play, mesmerism etc rather than full on femdom, and love dirty talk and JOI. They tend not to want the wham, bam thank you mam type of pussy and toy play. As I've learned what I enjoy and WHO I enjoy the most, I have researched and practiced those things I think will help me gain more of those clients, or make the experience better for the ones I have. When other guys come along, like younger chaps who want a quick wank with a pornstar type, I simply act exactly as I would with my other clients. If they don't like it oh well, plenty more. Having said that if they want something specific I could use I will look into it afterwards - like the time one of these younger guys wanted the 5 min red light/green light game. I was initially turned off because he was looking to get off quick, but after i researched the game I realised i could use it with my other clients and incorporate it into my JOI and CEI x
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    I do all sorts and have been pushed into doing things I wished I hadn't but you learn what your boundaries are that way, if you didn't know before hand. Also, if they're not happy, they're not likely to stay the 4+ minutes they need to in order to leave negative feedback. Guys assume I'm a Domme and I don't like that they expect me to know all there is about something that I'm clearly not if they read my profile.
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    There are thousands of different ways to hustle including anal if you are into it. You hustle is something that you should always be perfecting, that is a fact. This isn't a job where you can rest in that department.
    There is also selling videos for tips, there is are sooo many different hustles & games anal or doing something you aren't into isnt the way to go. You can't chase money that way.

    I don't have summertime slow downs, there are simple just off times when on cam & the kosmos & me arent working. So I switch to making videos & upping my marketing game. Then next time I log on, back to making money with no issues at all.

    Cause girls who do anal have slow times too, so then what? Sometimes you need to think outside the box & be original with your camming & marketing. This week alone I found 2 new & figured out one venue wasn't doing was it was supposed to so I worked on those & creating income where I wasn't before. Tried some new things with marketing & ways to do it that resulted in 9 NEW membership sales to my solo site in one day.

    Innovation, imagination, going for it & seeing if it works out along with determination & hard work are the keys for success that work for me.

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    Keep in mind guys will suggest all kinds of crazy shit just to see if you will do it. If you aren't into & suggest something that you are they may stick around & spend even more money. All men are about 12 years old coming up with the most insane shit & happy if not excited to see if a girl will do it. They suggest it without a thought or care for your well being, if they can get you to do it for free or cheap even better. They will tell you to dress up like a clown, set your hair on fire & put 3 dildos in each hole while doing backflips if they thought you might do it for a token or dollar.

    I do NOT jump through men's hoops, they jump through mine.

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    Thanks all I have always very much stuck to my thing. It's posh and flirty and teasing I talk ALOT and make them feel special. I do dress up in role play type outfits and mix things up that way but I offer an expensive and what I like to think quality experience. I have clients on SM and AW who have a couple of shows at least every single week.

    I have had my confidence knocked a bit lately by a couple of really morons on particular on direct chat aw which was horrible.

    I admire all you ladies with so many eggs and such a professional approach I get overwhelmed and just about manage to put bits on Twitter, Instagram and that's about it. I have NF profiles and a TTM set up but not maximising those at all my time is very limited and I guess that's why I'm stressing about the fixed shifts on big sites not banking as normal. I know it's August etc but I am normally fairly consistent.

    Thanks for the fab advice ladies I need a marketing book and to decide if to get into split camming to try and free up some time. Lots to think about.

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    I am pretty open to experiment within the rules of course but i figure if its something i dont mind to try it could turn out to be something i actually enjoy. I have really liked alot of things that i would have otherwise said no to because i never experienced it or thought it would be erotic, but if i do something and i dont enjoy it i let them know and dont do it again. It just depends on what you want to do and feel most comfortable doing, i never do anything that doesnt make me feel good or not give me some kind of pleasure, when it doesnt i say no more. Sorry they made you feel that way, i hate when men do that shit. But there are many more great men who will treat you way better. Hope things get better for you.

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    I used to dread directchat and I got negative feedback once because directchat disconnected but the guy thought I hung up on him...in those days they could leave feedback straight away, now thankfully it's 4 minutes and we can now also block them. Directchat is the worst for getting guys who assume you know what they want and for expecting you to be an experienced Domme. In directchat and directIM some will also want to do impossible role plays and assume you know what they mean by "filthy" and any other subjective word they choose. Just don't be afraid to clarify, you're not meant to be a mind reader and they shouldn't expect you to be one. If they haven't bothered to read your profile, that's their fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    I used to dread directchat and I got negative feedback once because directchat disconnected but the guy thought I hung up on him...in those days they could leave feedback straight away, now thankfully it's 4 minutes and we can now also block them. Directchat is the worst for getting guys who assume you know what they want and for expecting you to be an experienced Domme. In directchat and directIM some will also want to do impossible role plays and assume you know what they mean by "filthy" and any other subjective word they choose. Just don't be afraid to clarify, you're not meant to be a mind reader and they shouldn't expect you to be one. If they haven't bothered to read your profile, that's their fault.
    It was so weird he called me and just kept saying are you alone and are the windows shut!! I kept saying yes and trying to find out what he wanted then he just slammed the phone down was so awkward. Don't know why I let it get to me it stupid I was flying before then but when it's dead and I'm not working as much I guess you loose your flow! Some have been fab and I've made some good regs but a few pricks and it's horrible. Didn't know it was 4 mins was panicking for the neg feed back that's huge relief!!

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    When I first started I was a jack of all trades and sloooooowlllly cut a ton of shit out. I used to switch, do anal, etc and now....nope, nope. No anal, no subing. Funny enough I make more than I used to. I also tend to believe there's a bit more money in doming because demanding tipping can be such an intricate part of it.

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