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    Question First whitelabel: SM or CB?

    The time has come for me to get on the whitelabel train.

    When I was first making my expansion plans earlier this summer, I was sure I'd go with SM, because it's where my freechat home is. I've never streamed on CB, so I can't capitalise on a profile there, even the kind of low-key part-time profile I've got with SM.

    But glitches on SM have been completely out of hand, and it seems like a bad decision to put my efforts into producing traffic that hits the destination site and can't spend money.

    Queens of whitelabels, what do you reckon? Is camming and having a presence on a site you're promoting a crucial part of your process? What kind of ratio of purchases vs clicks are you getting on SM - can you at least get 1:1000, or is it worse than that?

    Any experiences with customer service on either SM or CB whitelabel side you can tell me about? Any other considerations you feel like sharing?

    Slothie xx

    ETA I should add that I have a lot of experience with affilliate work, but it's all from mid-2000s (pre-Twitter, from the era when blogs ruled the earth) and is therefore a bit rusty. But it's there. So my expectations are pretty realistic.


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    Default Re: First whitelabel: SM or CB?

    Both have their advantages.

    SM is far more money in the long run. The paid percentage is very high, and you'll be indirectly helping the SM bb's with more customers Once you get a good base of clients built up (can take years), your affiliate income will far exceed your cammodel income. As for customer service, the only thing I know is that (despite the rumors) SM has been meticulously honest with their accounting in our relationship with them in the last 3-4 years. There was a time quite a few years back when they were getting a lot of fraud on their failed "pay per signup" scheme, so they delayed payments for a few months to straighten it out, but by and large they haven't ripped off any honest affiliates.

    As for SM "failing", its not. I outlined the reasons in a few articles before. Total models has doubled in the last year. Paid percentage overall hasn't really gone down by any significant margin. By our estimate, SM is doing just as well or better than ever, though some individual models are having issues. As an affiliate, you're playing the index fund rather than the individual stock and its a completely different picture.

    CB is the #2 pick though for a number of reasons - to get your $1 or $2, the signup doesn't have to part with his credit card details. This is huge and makes conversions extremely easy. A properly placed add is good for a very steady source of income from signups alone. The following revshare though is awful, and the customers are just as likely to go pay on the fake Fuckbook ads (which you get nothing for) as the models.

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    Default Re: First whitelabel: SM or CB?

    Really appreciate the detailed response, Katy. What you say reflects my hunches, especially the index fund metaphor.

    It's quite possible I'll hedge my bet with a bunch of different whitelabels in the future, but, as with growing a cam profile, one at a time seems to be a good rate to start.


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