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    This female judge verbally attacked a rape survivor suffering from PTSD for missing court. The single mom has no one to care for her child and no support during the psychological fallout. SO the judge decides she needs to learn a lesson and throws her in jail. Please lend your support to a petition to remove this judge and protect future victims needing support of the legal system. https://www.change.org/p/florida-gov...c-abuse-victim
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    Yea, what.a.Bitch.


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    I signed. This makes me sick.
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    Idk. I understand the judge's frustration in all of this. The state did its part in trying to protect the accuser and to put a serial abuser behind bars. When she called, they came to help her. When she told them what he did, they tried to make sure that he couldn't do it again to her or anyone else, especially since he had a history of domestic abuse. At great costs in time and expense, they placed him into custody, prepared a case against him and convened a jury to hear the case.

    The problem is that the state cannot do it by themselves. Accused people have rights, one of which is to face their accusers in court. So for the system to work, victims must help themselves by helping the state put these guys away. But when it came time to do her part, she blew it off, including a subpoena requiring her to testify. She made a few lame excuses during her contempt hearing, but she had been telling the prosecutor for over a week that she wasn't going to testify, so the judge knew that the excuses were bologna.

    So now this serial abuser will remain free to abuse again. Worse though, this atrocious political grandstanding, where the judge was taken to task for not tolerating this accuser's behavior (meaning for actually wanting to take a predator off the streets), will now make other accusers feel like it is ok to back out of an accusation whenever it suits them. How many other predators will walk away now that accusers cannot be compelled to carry through with their part of the process? IMHO this was not a "win" for victims, but a horrible loss that will have long-term ramifications, including the creation of more victims by predators who are on the streets when they shouldn't be.
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    Ditto.

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    Of course it's frustrating. That doesn't mean that a victim is required to go through the trauma and risk the potential consequences of going to court if they aren't ready. Just like it's frustrating when someone doesn't want to go through with collecting evidence from a rape in order to make a case against their rapist, but they have every right not to go through an hours-long re-traumatizing, intrusive rape kit right after being assaulted. Saying they feel it's ok to back out of an accusation "whenever it suits them" is a flippant way of disregarding what a victim is actually going through, their beaten down psyche, and the very real fears that come along with this type of situation.

    Just because you testify against someone doesn't mean they'll get put away. Statistically speaking, in fact, this very rarely happens. And then what? She just made her own life more fraught with danger because she testified against someone who still gets to walk free and continue to abuse, and will probably come after her again more strongly. Not to mention the abuser's friends, family, community... it's not as though these are obvious monsters roaming darkened alleys - abusers are usually charming to everyone else and have support behind them who think the victim is just making shit up/being dramatic, and become angry with her for "causing trouble." There's probably a very strong chance that she has even internalized the idea that she was the problem, that she overreacted, and that she shouldn't testify because she was in the wrong. People withdraw their accusations in these types of situations all the time for this very reason. It's a lot of re-traumatizing trouble for a ridiculously small chance that something will actually be done, if they even truly believe that they are worth defending in the first place.

    In a perfect world, a victim wouldn't have any lasting mental problems from the abuse they've suffered, they'd happily testify without fear, an abuser would be put away, everyone would cheer, and the victim would live happily ever after. That's not the world we live in, however. People, especially those who have been abused, go into survival mode and will do what they feel is best and safest for them. They aren't thinking about the larger social implications of their refusing to put themselves (and no one else) out there. They can't at that moment. I find it sadly ironic that a person who has probably been beaten down and punished for not behaving in the way her abuser thought she should, is now being punished for not doing what society thinks they have a right to demand that she do for their own peace of mind.
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    Also, abusers are going to abuse regardless. No one that unstable is going to look at even a case of someone being punished and suddenly go "Oh shit, guess I won't beat my significant other today if I might not get away with it" and then get their act together and become decent human beings. It's not this woman's fault that abusers abuse and will continue to do so.
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    It's simply the victims choice. They can choose to stand up to their attacker and follow through and try to protect future victims, or they can choose not to. However if they're going to choose not to, it may actually be better in some cases to not file and have the government spent all the time and money and effort preparing a case just to have this person get a not guilty verdict on their record. The simple reality is I understand the emotional trauma a very very close friend of mine's been raped several times by the same person and we can't track the bastard down. And I understand the trauma of a trial another friend of mine went through a rape trial and I understand you might get part way through and decide you can't do it and there's no shame in that but it is not the judge's fault for trying to make her job or his job be complete and trying to make that bastard pay for what he did. Whatever the judge needs to do to complete the mission of putting the guilty behind bars that is the judges goal and the judge should not be berated for trying to reach that goal

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    Aurora can we please move this to ladies only? I understand I/others made a choice to click this thread but these male comments are really triggering as a former survivor and might upset others. No I don't believe in "PC" but this feels like victim blaming to me. No disrespect to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanXO View Post
    Aurora can we please move this to ladies only? I understand I/others made a choice to click this thread but these male comments are really triggering as a former survivor and might upset others. No I don't believe in "PC" but this feels like victim blaming to me. No disrespect to anyone.
    That would be up to Optimist, the original poster of the thread.
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    What a fucking cunt.

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    Victim mentality and second guessing are exactly the reasons why accusers need to be compelled to follow through once they have filed charges. There are bigger issues here than one particular victim's trauma. The next time he could break her skull open, or someone else's. Abusers tend to be recidivist and all too often escalate over time. We are not talking about a simple domestic dispute that got out of hand. This is a bad dude with a track record of hurting women and he needs to be in prison. If we cannot compel victims to help themselves and others when once they file charges and the gears of justice start grinding, then more of these guys stay on the street to re-victimize the same girls and others as well.

    This judge may have been a bit insensitive with some of her comments, but IMHO her intentions were good. She wants to get these animals off the streets, which starts with ensuring that accusers follow through (whether it hurts to do so or not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanXO View Post
    Aurora can we please move this to ladies only? I understand I/others made a choice to click this thread but these male comments are really triggering as a former survivor and might upset others. No I don't believe in "PC" but this feels like victim blaming to me. No disrespect to anyone.
    Honestly, I thought this thread would have nothing but agreement so....I didn't see this coming.
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    Didn't we already have a thread with this exact topic? Anyhow, It's not the victim at fault because their trauma prevents them from acting it's Something wrong with the court system when a victim of rape or violence has to face their abuser. Why can't they be in separate rooms???
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    It is that silly “constitutional rights” stuff. The Sixth Amendment says:

    “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.”

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    The problem testifying is the family of the rapist/accused can easily find out information regarding their victim, who will never remain safe afterwards. Yes I agree that those who have been raped should come forward however, there is no protection and you're right about second guessing. In reality a real victim never wins and due to the fact that evidence can be destroyed/damaged/aged, time is literally clicking away. (12 years max) There needs to mainly be sympathy and shared remorse for the trauma that they endured..clearly demonstrated there hasn't been and her cocky attitude in the beginning says a lot. I refuse to believe there is justice at all for rape and hearing many of those victims bashed, belittled, shamed or treated like trash..its hard not to take a firm stance on that. (Again..this is not shocking..) You want me to put the asshole who raped me behind bars, putting myself in danger, changing my name/changing identities..so he can maybe get out and do it again. The problem is having flash backs when you walk into a court room having to yet again, look at the face of someone who caused it all. Btw its not just woman, its men who are raped as well..
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    This isn't the exact article, but you get the idea https://mic.com/articles/153371/broc...ult#.JuEXTlccN


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    Quote Originally Posted by pinups4 View Post
    It's simply the victims choice. They can choose to stand up to their attacker and follow through and try to protect future victims, or they can choose not to. However if they're going to choose not to, it may actually be better in some cases to not file and have the government spent all the time and money and effort preparing a case just to have this person get a not guilty verdict on their record. The simple reality is I understand the emotional trauma a very very close friend of mine's been raped several times by the same person and we can't track the bastard down. And I understand the trauma of a trial another friend of mine went through a rape trial and I understand you might get part way through and decide you can't do it and there's no shame in that but it is not the judge's fault for trying to make her job or his job be complete and trying to make that bastard pay for what he did. Whatever the judge needs to do to complete the mission of putting the guilty behind bars that is the judges goal and the judge should not be berated for trying to reach that goal
    At first they may have the chance to do something in the time after being tossed, you also don't see the rapist silence their victims through threats to cut them into pieces, taunt their families, attempting to find them again, hurting their future children, ect. There is a lot more to rape than what people know in dark detail and its very sad.. How can you stand up to an attacker that is much larger in size compared to you? It can take years to even come to light for someone to gain any justice for a crime and even then you may be accused as a liar. Future victims are also never safe and it is not the fault of this Monster's first prey. I'm aware that there are those who do choose to lie about this and the roles can be reversed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    So, yea, I can fully understand not wanting to come forward/testify etc
    &, if you ain't been there & are another gender too, u need to STFU.
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    Oh yes because even when the victim comes forward and puts their entire lives out there and relives the most excruciating moment they've ever endured over and over in front of strangera and put their safety FURTHER in danger , that means their attackers get put away, and for a long time too! *intense sarcasm* oh in other news the Stanford rapist is now free since yesterday, another white boy isn't being punished cause it might mess up his "college experience", and the best news in awhile has been a man who brutally raped two women getting a whopping six years!! Yay justice system!! Unless you are a rape survivor plz sit the fuck down

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM7Q5M2Yuy0
    At least they held this disgusting lady accountable, who had the decency to swoosh her hair to the side. Mind you this played a very large part in why he only received 3 mo, these type of judges are what keep many victims silent.
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    Also, I know an attorney, he told me (unasked btw) that the legal world is a very different place for less privledged people, whether it's law suits (especially) or being a victim seeking justice


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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    Also, I know an attorney, he told me (unasked btw) that the legal world is a very different place for less privledged people, whether it's law suits (especially) or being a victim seeking justice
    Not for nothing, but look at that COP that got caught raping those black women with records.......and the fact is, he got away with it for as long as he did because they had had previous run ins with the law and they were black. Low hanging fruit, and all that.

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    Guys, we all understand the frustration of not being able to prosecute a bad guy because a witness didn't show up.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with a completely unprofessional judge harassing intimidating insulting and throwing in jail a single mother

    This is beyond the pale.

    you are bringing your own crap here for no reason

    There is no way this person should be a judge of a dog show, no less in an actual court room, and her superiors told her so

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    Here is her getting reprimanded

    She looks clueless like she don't gaf. Notice hair flip at 1:30.

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