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    I have encountered lots of strippers in clubs who are very pushy and aggressive in clubs and it honestly is the biggest turn off for me. I don't care how attractive she is, if she comes up to me and tries to order me around or be pushy in anyway I will never ever even remotely consider spending even a dollar on her. I do not like to take orders from anyone who is not my boss and people who do this I tend to quickly judge them as a threat and an enemy.

    For example I was at club Atlantis in the Chicago area and this dancer comes up to me and starts pulling my arm and ordering me, "You are going to get a dance from me Now!" I said no. She blows up tugs my arm real harm, "Yes you are c'mon one dance!" I said no talk to me first and I will think about it. The she says, "your getting a dance now!" My body was filled with anger, I got red in the face, bore my teeth, gave her a stare and said coldy, "NO!". She walks away.

    Then another dancer comes up to me with a much more gentle submissive type personality. She sits and talks to me for 20 minutes, rubs my back, sits in my lap, plays with my hair, and tells me I am really cute. I tell her "I suppose your expecting some money from me" and she says no I am just bored its dead in here I just wanted to talk to you and have some company. I tell her she is first dancer here who even bothered to sit down and talk to me that night, I smile at her and I really like how submissive she is. I tell her since she has been so nice to me I want 5 dances and afterwards I gave her a $100 tip for sitting and talking to me for 20 minutes. After I pay her she continues to sit with me and keep my company another 20 minutes I will say.

    Meanwhile the other very pushy dancer is looking at me from across the room acting a little "jealous" of the other dancer. I will spend money on girls in the club, but I want be in charge(at least give me the illusion that I am). It's just so many dancers have tried the pushy tactic on me in clubs and they continue to lose out on dances and any money from me and instead my money goes to the more submissive easy going dancer.

    Does the real pushy and aggressive tactic really work with other guys? Or is it just something that really clashes with my personality?

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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    It's not my style but yes pushy and aggressive works for some dancers/some customers. There are guys who like getting bossed around, men are notoriously horrible at taking subtle hints, and also closed mouths don't get fed.
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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    Uh I'm gonna go with that it's at least partly a 'personality clash' since you seem to like the word 'submissive'. That's a vaguely creepy way of putting it IMO.

    But I have sat with pairs of customers and had aggressive dancers come up to the un-occupied guy... We're talking aggressive like you said, telling the guy what to do, like to tip the girl on stage/"that's not enough money for her, give me more!"/etc. That method doesn't usually work.

    If they have the 'bitchy ice queen' thing down, that can work. But that's a more subtle sort of aggression.
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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    Seems like being pushy and aggressive may work for some, but I think it annoys people.

    By the way, I wouldn't use the word "submissive". I would just say I have a more laid-back kind of hustle. And it works for me.

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    the aggressive girls make plenty of money, trust. i get screwed over often because of this and i find myself wishing i were more like that. it feels like almost once a week some guy gets hustled into a VIP with one of the aggressive types and later tells me he wasn't interested in her and regrets spending all that $ when he really had wanted me to come over but i didn't and she just pushed him into it. i try to tell myself that it "feels better" to not have to push guys like that into doing shit they don't want to.. but at the end of the day it feels way better to go home with more $$$. after all it is my job to get money from these guys.

    yes some guys hate it and won't spend money on those girls, but plenty do. it's always nice when i get a guy like you who appreciates my laid back nature. personally i hate when i go to a club as a patron and those girls do that hustle on me or my date.. i know most guys don't really like it either.. it's not my style.. but hell.. props to the girls that do because for every guy like you who won't fall for it, there's three other guys who will. you just have to be aggressive back with them unfortunately. it's annoying but just like we have to deal with annoying customers, y'all have to deal with annoying dancers.

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    Im a chameleon, I can pretty much just watch a guy for a few seconds and know which hustle style he's going to go for. If I see that the guy has been checking me out and is just on the edge of his seat waiting for me ill go with the quick 'let's go" approach. I also use this with groups of guys. Groups of guys are more fast pace and and don't care about the bonding thing, they just care about tits and ass. If the guy comes across more relaxed and settled in then I know im going to have to use a little more finesse to get him to get up and going with me.

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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    So she spent roughly 60 minutes with you and got 200 bucks. The other dancer might have found someone who liked the aggressive stripper thing and made waaay more more. That's why dancers do it.

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    You might not like that but there are some guys who do, and some who don't but end up just going to get a dance to get the girl to stop pushing them and aren't as good at saying no. Sadly, I'm not the aggressive type when it comes to selling dances, it's just not my style, and I've noticed it's easier for guys to say no to girls like me who aren't aggressive than girls who are super aggressive, whether they aren't interested or just cheap.

    So I think that's one of the reason a lot of dancers take the more aggressive approach. Yes, it does piss guys off but a lot of those same guys will STILL buy dances.

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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    Some girls are pushy because that's their hustle style. Different things work for everybody. My style is based on the atmosphere of the club that night. I'm more of the sit and talk to someone on the weekdays unless it's a weekend or event in town with a lot a lot of people because I know if the club is high energy like that with a lot of people I can sell back to back dances so I weed those guys out unless I seen any of my regulars, then I would just chill with them instead.

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    My favorite dancer, you could say, totally reeled me in with the 'super sweet girl' thing. A little embarrassed, but not afraid to admit it Had she been more aggressive, it wouldn't have lasted. She was so sweet and laid back, and seemed content to just sit at the club with me for hours. It would finally be me, on multiple occasions, who would tease her about never even hitting me up about VIP. We would laugh about it, then head into VIP.

    Finally, some six months and roughly $5,000 later, she is slipping a little in her "hustle", (which in the beginning I would have swore wasn't hustle, so blind), and she is starting to press more, and earlier, for dances and VIP. It's probably a good thing for me though, as it is taking away from the original sweet girl appeal that hooked me, so it'll be easier to quit seeing her, which is what I know I need to do anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddsullivan55 View Post
    My favorite dancer, you could say, totally reeled me in with the 'super sweet girl' thing. A little embarrassed, but not afraid to admit it Had she been more aggressive, it wouldn't have lasted. She was so sweet and laid back, and seemed content to just sit at the club with me for hours. It would finally be me, on multiple occasions, who would tease her about never even hitting me up about VIP. We would laugh about it, then head into VIP.

    Finally, some six months and roughly $5,000 later, she is slipping a little in her "hustle", (which in the beginning I would have swore wasn't hustle, so blind), and she is starting to press more, and earlier, for dances and VIP. It's probably a good thing for me though, as it is taking away from the original sweet girl appeal that hooked me, so it'll be easier to quit seeing her, which is what I know I need to do anyway.
    I don't think she's slipping I think she's just getting tired of you and how much you spend on her lol. $5k in 6 months is $830 a month.. Not enough for any dancer to be sitting around for hours plus vip.

    But anyway OP that hustle definitely makes girls money but it can turn off the other type of customer who prefers to sit and talk more. That faster hustle works when it's busy and on customers who don't feel like they need to sit around & get to know the dancer before spending. I'm definitely a more relaxed hustler and wish I was more aggressive but oh well. (& ya 'submissive' Is slightly creepy lol)

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    Well there's more to the math. The 5k is rough, but boils down to about 8 trips in 6 months (I travel there; not my home town). The first couple trips were cheaper, just getting to know her, then we progressed to an hour VIP, but the last three trips have been 2 hours of VIP in each. Each hour is $700, so $1,400 each trip. Yes, she will chill with me for another 3 hours or so, but has told me her nightly goal is $300 for a full shift, so I doubt it isn't worth it. Add that to knowing your customer, having good conversation and not worrying about every new customer sticking his fingers in your holes and what's not to like? But anyway, this thread isn't about me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddsullivan55 View Post
    Well there's more to the math. The 5k is rough, but boils down to about 8 trips in 6 months (I travel there; not my home town). The first couple trips were cheaper, just getting to know her, then we progressed to an hour VIP, but the last three trips have been 2 hours of VIP in each. Each hour is $700, so $1,400 each trip. Yes, she will chill with me for another 3 hours or so, but has told me her nightly goal is $300 for a full shift, so I doubt it isn't worth it. Add that to knowing your customer, having good conversation and not worrying about every new customer sticking his fingers in your holes and what's not to like? But anyway, this thread isn't about me.


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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    Quote Originally Posted by toddsullivan55 View Post
    Well there's more to the math. The 5k is rough, but boils down to about 8 trips in 6 months (I travel there; not my home town). The first couple trips were cheaper, just getting to know her, then we progressed to an hour VIP, but the last three trips have been 2 hours of VIP in each. Each hour is $700, so $1,400 each trip. Yes, she will chill with me for another 3 hours or so, but has told me her nightly goal is $300 for a full shift, so I doubt it isn't worth it. Add that to knowing your customer, having good conversation and not worrying about every new customer sticking his fingers in your holes and what's not to like? But anyway, this thread isn't about me.
    If she chose to hang out with you for 5 hours, that's on her. Personally, even if you were my customer giving me ~$1000/night (minus club cut), I might get bored or tired of spending 5 hours entertaining you and be looking to 'hurry it up'.
    Stripper mantra is "MORE MORE MORE", usually regardless of the fact that they're making hourly more than a doctor or lawyer... we are always trying to figure out how to get more money.

    On that note, most aggressive girls I know are veterans and just over the small talk and bullshit. They figured out that pushy = more money and ran with it. So yeah, OP, maybe you didn't like that style (like the customers I referenced in my first post), but she probably found someone else to basically bully into dumping their wallet out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by November_Scorpio View Post
    I do not like to take orders from anyone who is not my boss and people who do this I tend to quickly judge them as a threat and an enemy.

    For example I was at club Atlantis in the Chicago area and this dancer comes up to me and starts pulling my arm and ordering me, "You are going to get a dance from me Now!" I said no. She blows up tugs my arm real harm, "Yes you are c'mon one dance!" I said no talk to me first and I will think about it. The she says, "your getting a dance now!" My body was filled with anger, I got red in the face, bore my teeth, gave her a stare and said coldy, "NO!". She walks away.
    That was very dramatic. Fight or flight instinct kicked in because a half naked girl got pushy? I guess some guys are just more sensitive than others.

    I don't make it a habit of telling other guys how to behave in clubs, but you might want to lighten up. It's just entertainment dude. When a girl does/says something I don't like, I just laugh it off and send her away. Simple. Seriously now, a grown man having that type of over-emotional reaction to a hustle run by a young half naked girl is just ridiculous.

    Also, if you are going to hang out in strip clubs often, you may want to think about whatever oversensitive/wounded animal vibe you are giving off. I deal with hustles as much as the next guy, but I haven't had a girl try something like that in forever and I'm in a lot of clubs each year and deal with a lot of dancers. Something about you made her think that she could do that to you. Instead of whining to this board, you might want to spend your time and energy figuring out how to toughen up a bit, which would likely reduce these types of incidents to begin with and allow you to handle them calmly when they do.

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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    I agree. It was dramatic. Just say a firm "No. Do not ask me again. Otherwise, I will have a word with your manager about your rudeness. Maybe then they'll send you home." No need to get so emotional.

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    Lol I was gunna say! "I bore my teeth" lol are you serious dude?? issues..I'm thinking it's good she moved on!
    Plus "submissive?" Wtf shades of ted bundy in here, kinda creepy

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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    Its been very rare for me to encounter a dancer that aggressive...maybe a couple of times over the last 10 years.
    I usually go to the club to see a favorite and once I tell a dancer that, there are no issues.

    I do my best to avoid drama in the club, but sometimes, it does happen.

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    Pushy or agressive dancers make absolutely zero off of me. Not only is it a turnoff, it's irritating.

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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    Because it works, at least sometimes. They rewarded for the behavior which encourages them do to it again.

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    Honest pushy and aggressive strippers don't bother me, even though I'm a sexual dominate, it can be fun to turn it to your advantage.

    Pushy and aggressive waitresses on the other hand or bathroom attendants I can't stand.

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    Default Re: Why do some strippers think being pushy and agressive makes them the most money?

    It is very competetive and if you're not aggressive you usually don't make money.
    It's just how it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by November_Scorpio View Post
    I have encountered lots of strippers in clubs who are very pushy and aggressive in clubs and it honestly is the biggest turn off for me. I don't care how attractive she is, if she comes up to me and tries to order me around or be pushy in anyway I will never ever even remotely consider spending even a dollar on her. I do not like to take orders from anyone who is not my boss and people who do this I tend to quickly judge them as a threat and an enemy.

    For example I was at club Atlantis in the Chicago area and this dancer comes up to me and starts pulling my arm and ordering me, "You are going to get a dance from me Now!" I said no. She blows up tugs my arm real harm, "Yes you are c'mon one dance!" I said no talk to me first and I will think about it. The she says, "your getting a dance now!" My body was filled with anger, I got red in the face, bore my teeth, gave her a stare and said coldy, "NO!". She walks away.

    Then another dancer comes up to me with a much more gentle submissive type personality. She sits and talks to me for 20 minutes, rubs my back, sits in my lap, plays with my hair, and tells me I am really cute. I tell her "I suppose your expecting some money from me" and she says no I am just bored its dead in here I just wanted to talk to you and have some company. I tell her she is first dancer here who even bothered to sit down and talk to me that night, I smile at her and I really like how submissive she is. I tell her since she has been so nice to me I want 5 dances and afterwards I gave her a $100 tip for sitting and talking to me for 20 minutes. After I pay her she continues to sit with me and keep my company another 20 minutes I will say.

    Meanwhile the other very pushy dancer is looking at me from across the room acting a little "jealous" of the other dancer. I will spend money on girls in the club, but I want be in charge(at least give me the illusion that I am). It's just so many dancers have tried the pushy tactic on me in clubs and they continue to lose out on dances and any money from me and instead my money goes to the more submissive easy going dancer.

    Does the real pushy and aggressive tactic really work with other guys? Or is it just something that really clashes with my personality?

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    Why do some dancers think that being pushy or aggressive makes them the most money?

    ....Because it does.

    A lot of guys have a hard time saying "no". Look at the amount of threads on here where guys are asking how to politely reject a dancer they don't want. It doesn't matter if she got the dance by being sweet and nice and everything you wanted, or if she got it because she was so pushy that you gave in just to get her to leave you alone - the $$ spends the same.

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    It does make them money. And the the guys that don't like that kind of hustle? They just walk away from, plenty more fish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    If she chose to hang out with you for 5 hours, that's on her. Personally, even if you were my customer giving me ~$1000/night (minus club cut), I might get bored or tired of spending 5 hours entertaining you and be looking to 'hurry it up'.
    Stripper mantra is "MORE MORE MORE", usually regardless of the fact that they're making hourly more than a doctor or lawyer... we are always trying to figure out how to get more money.
    That is something interesting I found out with some dancers no matter what you offer they get bored of entertaining a guy for like 5 hours and want hurry it up. A lot money is wasted spending money on a dancer who you just don't mesh well to begin with. I discovered really the best incentive is really how much the dancer likes you and meshes with you that tends to influence her, seems a bigger incentive to her then what money is offered. If I don't mesh well with her personality, I can empty out my wallet and it still won't change the way she chooses to treat me.
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