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    Would it be inappropriate for me to ask a dancer to accompany me out somewhere outside the club. For instance, if I had an extra ticket to a sporting event, would it be inappropriate for me to ask her if she wanted to go? Has anyone here ever accepted "gifts" like that?


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    That's not a gift. That's asking her on a date. A gift is something that you give a person and don't imply the person has to do anything for it in return. Generally no, the majority of dancers have no interest in dating. We are about money and that's it no matter what we tell you. I've been invited to dinner by long time regulars that I trusted, I got a free meal and several hundred dollars to eat steak and lobster and go on my way.

    The formula that MAY help secure a sporting event companion.
    Be a loyal customer. You must show that you consistently will spend money on her. A good amount of money. Atleast several hundred per week for a significant time.

    Be respectful, don't cross any lines. Then once you've established trust and loyalty over a long period of time, then you can say "hey I have these tickets, I would love for you to join me. I'll give you $500, so you don't have to worry about working that night and just come to the game instead. Then discreetly give her your card/ or a paper with your number pre written down. Dont ask for hers. Just give yours, and casually without pressure let her know she can contact you if she's interested. Then leave it at that. Don't pester her or insist on a concrete answer right then. The more relaxed and go with the flow you are the more comfortable and more likely she will be to be on board. If guys pressure us or try to get us out of the club too soon we assume that either 1. You're just trying to fuck us, or 2. You're a serial killer who wants to murder us.

    But yeah I hate sports so I would be like "uh, what's in it for me to have to tolerate this torture?".

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    It would *be a gift* you gave the two the tickets to her -- no strings attached -- and let her take whomever she wanted (likely her BF and not you, stud).

    Otherwise it is really a gift for *you* and you should talk it over with her and let her know that you'd love for her to accompany you, and being the gentleman that you are, you'd of course totally compensate her for her time. Basically pay her to go out with you. That's kind of how this works.

    Though like Nicole says, this works best if you find out what she likes (theater, music, sports) and pick something that interests her rather than just what you happen to have available or got for free. You know, the thought that counts. It also depends on her comfort level with you, if she feels safe, whether she even sees customers out side of the club, whether she's willing to see you outside the club, etc. Not all dancers do this. I'm just giving it to you straight.

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    In other words...

    Spend several hundred dollars per week on her for a long time in the club.
    Get tickets to something SHE likes, not what you do.
    Pay her roughly $500 to go do this with you.

    See why you shouldn't try to date the girls from the club?

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    Erm, not a gift as others have stated. If she wanted to go out w you she probably would have expressed Interest. Entertaining and getting naked for you is her job, the club isn't match.com

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    How about proper gifts. One dancer I know enjoys shopping at a certain botique in town. Would it be OK to give her a gift card to the place, or is it just better to tip heavy.

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    So spending her free time with you is a gift... Lol





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    Quote Originally Posted by wm1776 View Post
    Would it be inappropriate for me to ask a dancer to accompany me out somewhere outside the club. For instance, if I had an extra ticket to a sporting event, would it be inappropriate for me to ask her if she wanted to go? Has anyone here ever accepted "gifts" like that?


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    I ask dancers to do outside the club stuff like that all the time, but it is not something they do for free I have to pay them for it. This really wouldn't be a gift since your expecting something in return, her going on a date with you to the game. If she is a very attractive stripper in the club and a top girl don't expect her to go to game with you for anything less than $500, that's just from my personal experience at the clubs. If you don't want spend that kind of money don't go after a top girl at the club, a dancer who isn't a top girl and doesn't have the killer body the top dancers that are ranked like in the top #3 at their club can easily be persuaded to do outside the club stuff for as little as $200 or less. Don't let yourself fall into the trap of getting too hooked on one dancer. There are many dancers who will not do anything outside the club period for any amount of money you give them so my best advice is to shop around at several different clubs till you find a few dancers that say yes and get their phone numbers. Then you can text message each one to negotiate a price, just don't tell the dancer you have made this same offer to other dancers and are trying to get the best deal. Don't just get hooked on any one dancer to do any outside the club stuff with it is a great way to set yourself up with someone really greedy who will charge you way more than what other dancers who are just as attractive as her will charge you.

    The problem with OTC is unlike the club where dances are set $20 for each guy regardless, with OTC stuff its set between you and dancer so you got to learn how to make good deals and shop around. It is just like when you go shopping for anything else. You want go shopping for lets say a new TV. This store charges X amnt for the TV, another store charges a little more for same TV, another store charges the cheapest price for the same TV. So you go buy the TV at the store that offers the best deal. Exact same way you need to do any OTC with strippers shop around between many dancers from multiple clubs. Just a lesson I have learned from my experience at strip clubs and I am now able to do OTC stuff for way less than when I first started. This is actually the advice veteran dancers in clubs gave me, they said "shop around don't get hooked on any one girl."
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    Quote Originally Posted by November_Scorpio View Post
    I ask dancers to do outside the club stuff like that all the time, but it is not something they do for free I have to pay them for it. This really wouldn't be a gift since your expecting something in return, her going on a date with you to the game. If she is a very attractive stripper in the club and a top girl don't expect her to go to game with you for anything less than $500, that's just from my personal experience at the clubs. If you don't want spend that kind of money don't go after a top girl at the club, a dancer who isn't a top girl and doesn't have the killer body the top dancers that are ranked like in the top #3 at their club can easily be persuaded to do outside the club stuff for as little as $200 or less. Don't let yourself fall into the trap of getting too hooked on one dancer. There are many dancers who will not do anything outside the club period for any amount of money you give them so my best advice is to shop around at several different clubs till you find a few dancers that say yes and get their phone numbers. Then you can text message each one to negotiate a price, just don't tell the dancer you have made this same offer to other dancers and are trying to get the best deal. Don't just get hooked on any one dancer to do any outside the club stuff with it is a great way to set yourself up with someone really greedy who will charge you way more than what other dancers who are just as attractive as her will charge you.

    The problem with OTC is unlike the club where dances are set $20 for each guy regardless, with OTC stuff its set between you and dancer so you got to learn how to make good deals and shop around. It is just like when you go shopping for anything else. You want go shopping for lets say a new TV. This store charges X amnt for the TV, another store charges a little more for same TV, another store charges the cheapest price for the same TV. So you go buy the TV at the store that offers the best deal. Exact same way you need to do any OTC with strippers shop around between many dancers from multiple clubs. Just a lesson I have learned from my experience at strip clubs and I am now able to do OTC stuff for way less than when I first started. This is actually the advice veteran dancers in clubs gave me, they said "shop around don't get hooked on any one girl."
    Um sorry no. Just because someone is not a perfect 10 doesn't mean they'll "be easily persuaded" to meet someone outside of the club for 200 dollars or less...........that's ridiculous.


    To the OP........It sounds like the game is most likely more of something that you're interested in than her. if you want her to join you you'd have to think of it as paying for "companionship" because that's what it is. You can always ask her and try to work out a rate with her to join you at the game, but no, I wouldn't expect her to be persuaded to go for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaraLynn View Post
    Um sorry no. Just because someone is not a perfect 10 doesn't mean they'll "be easily persuaded" to meet someone outside of the club for 200 dollars or less...........that's ridiculous.
    Well all I know is I have 3 girls I regularly see outside the club for $200 or less. One sees me between $100-$200 each time for private dances in a hotel for an hour, I got another one I see who comes sees me in hotel that is right next to club after she finishes dancing at 3am for only $150, and I got another one who does a Dinner & Movie and dances in hotel room for just $200. It could be that I am a really nice guy to them and they are just not doing it just for the money but because they really like me as a customer. One girl does tell me she would rather see me then go to the club because I treat her nice and she enjoys seeing me. She says she could make more going to club, but she would rather do the dinner & movie and dances because she always has a great time being with me. She actually has seen me outside the club for free a couple times or just for a pack of cigarettes, but only because been seeing her for over 2 years outside club. Been regularly seeing her roughly every 2-4 weeks for past 2 and half years. So I think how well the dancer likes the customer also can influence the price she charges too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by November_Scorpio View Post
    I ask dancers to do outside the club stuff like that all the time, but it is not something they do for free I have to pay them for it. This really wouldn't be a gift since your expecting something in return, her going on a date with you to the game. If she is a very attractive stripper in the club and a top girl don't expect her to go to game with you for anything less than $500, that's just from my personal experience at the clubs. If you don't want spend that kind of money don't go after a top girl at the club, a dancer who isn't a top girl and doesn't have the killer body the top dancers that are ranked like in the top #3 at their club can easily be persuaded to do outside the club stuff for as little as $200 or less. Don't let yourself fall into the trap of getting too hooked on one dancer. There are many dancers who will not do anything outside the club period for any amount of money you give them so my best advice is to shop around at several different clubs till you find a few dancers that say yes and get their phone numbers. Then you can text message each one to negotiate a price, just don't tell the dancer you have made this same offer to other dancers and are trying to get the best deal. Don't just get hooked on any one dancer to do any outside the club stuff with it is a great way to set yourself up with someone really greedy who will charge you way more than what other dancers who are just as attractive as her will charge you.

    The problem with OTC is unlike the club where dances are set $20 for each guy regardless, with OTC stuff its set between you and dancer so you got to learn how to make good deals and shop around. It is just like when you go shopping for anything else. You want go shopping for lets say a new TV. This store charges X amnt for the TV, another store charges a little more for same TV, another store charges the cheapest price for the same TV. So you go buy the TV at the store that offers the best deal. Exact same way you need to do any OTC with strippers shop around between many dancers from multiple clubs. Just a lesson I have learned from my experience at strip clubs and I am now able to do OTC stuff for way less than when I first started. This is actually the advice veteran dancers in clubs gave me, they said "shop around don't get hooked on any one girl."
    November, for starters, this is apples and oranges. The OP was talking about asking a girl on a date and mis-categorized it as a gift. You are talking about paid OTC, which is entirely different.

    But otherwise, just ugh on the rest of that. I've taken a lot of girls out of a lot of clubs over the years for p4p, but if I had to take that approach I doubt I would bother. If you are willing to screw around with any ol' girl, which has become clear with this post and one in another thread, then you might as well just dial up some questionable BP girl for $100 or so. I delve into OTC when I meet a girl who motivates me to do so. IMHO what you are doing is letting the tail wag the dog, which doesn't really make much sense when you are still paying a premium to pick up paid dates in a strip club vs. through other means. But to each his own I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    November, for starters, this is apples and oranges. The OP was talking about asking a girl on a date and mis-categorized it as a gift. You are talking about paid OTC, which is entirely different.

    But otherwise, just ugh on the rest of that. I've taken a lot of girls out of a lot of clubs over the years for p4p, but if I had to take that approach I doubt I would bother. If you are willing to screw around with any ol' girl, which has become clear with this post and one in another thread, then you might as well just dial up some questionable BP girl for $100 or so. I delve into OTC when I meet a girl who motivates me to do so. IMHO what you are doing is letting the tail wag the dog, which doesn't really make much sense when you are still paying a premium to pick up paid dates in a strip club vs. through other means. But to each his own I suppose.
    Maybe I did get a little sidetracked, my appologies. I am not screwing around with these girls outside the club, its dances and dinner & movie dates. I could get even cheaper on BP your right, but I can't see those girls in a strip club. It is nice having a stripper that will give me the best of both worlds. I can see her OTC and I can go to club and get dances & VIPs with her in the club as well or can go to the club and pay her money to just sit and chat with me in the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November_Scorpio View Post
    Maybe I did get a little sidetracked, my appologies. I am not screwing around with these girls outside the club, its dances and dinner & movie dates. I could get even cheaper on BP your right, but I can't see those girls in a strip club. It is nice having a stripper that will give me the best of both worlds. I can see her OTC and I can go to club and get dances & VIPs with her in the club as well or can go to the club and pay her money to just sit and chat with me in the club.
    You want to spend time treating them like civvie dates, but you aren't at all picky about who you spend that time with? Then that makes even less sense than if you were just paying them for sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    You want to spend time treating them like civvie dates, but you aren't at all picky about who you spend that time with? Then that makes even less sense than if you were just paying them for sex.
    Well true a lot of friends think I am stupid say it's cheaper to get a hooker, but I have no desire to contract hepatitis, HIV or anything else I don't want. Sometimes I would much rather pay a girl money just go to a Dinner & Movie with me and that's it no sex and I really don't give two shits what the stripper looks like. Just lonely and paying a girl for a date is a lot easier for me then wasting my time on dating sites or trying to date the conventional way. I do have a girlfriend and she gives me all the sex I want, but I don't know still feel lonely for some reason and easily get bored with her I like to have have multiple girls and more variety in my life. I guess I enjoy having a secret lifestyle behind my girlfriends back and get a thrill from "getting away with it" without her finding out. I did the same stuff behind my ex-wife's back for 5 years when I was married, just one woman in my life isn't enough female attention for me I guess still feel very lonely inside. I need several different females to text message during the week besides my girlfriend, I easily get bored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by November_Scorpio View Post
    Well all I know is I have 3 girls I regularly see outside the club for $200 or less. One sees me between $100-$200 each time for private dances in a hotel for an hour, I got another one I see who comes sees me in hotel that is right next to club after she finishes dancing at 3am for only $150, and I got another one who does a Dinner & Movie and dances in hotel room for just $200. It could be that I am a really nice guy to them and they are just not doing it just for the money but because they really like me as a customer. One girl does tell me she would rather see me then go to the club because I treat her nice and she enjoys seeing me. She says she could make more going to club, but she would rather do the dinner & movie and dances because she always has a great time being with me. She actually has seen me outside the club for free a couple times or just for a pack of cigarettes, but only because been seeing her for over 2 years outside club. Been regularly seeing her roughly every 2-4 weeks for past 2 and half years. So I think how well the dancer likes the customer also can influence the price she charges too.
    Okay, but that's THOSE particular girls. Just because those girls are willing to meet outside of the club for those prices doesn't mean that all the girls who aren't "the top girl in the club" are willing to as well. Generalizations like that can be harmful. I've worked with plenty of very nice dancers who aren't the top girls and aren't perfect 10s who don't see guys outside of the club for ANY price. Too many people seem to think because they meet a few who are willing to do something this means the rest will too. All this leads to is disappointment from the customers and the girls getting harassed and haggled all day to meet outside for cheap prices because a guy is under the impression that "enough convincing" will make them agree to it.

    Anyway.....this has veered off the subject of the post so yeah, if you're interested in having a dancer join you for drinks, a game, dinner, outside lapdances, ANY of those things, no, it doesn't hurt to approach the subject and negotiate a price, because you never know. You might get lucky. Just respect her boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaraLynn View Post
    Okay, but that's THOSE particular girls. Just because those girls are willing to meet outside of the club for those prices doesn't mean that all the girls who aren't "the top girl in the club" are willing to as well. Generalizations like that can be harmful. I've worked with plenty of very nice dancers who aren't the top girls and aren't perfect 10s who don't see guys outside of the club for ANY price. Too many people seem to think because they meet a few who are willing to do something this means the rest will too. All this leads to is disappointment from the customers and the girls getting harassed and haggled all day to meet outside for cheap prices because a guy is under the impression that "enough convincing" will make them agree to it.

    Anyway.....this has veered off the subject of the post so yeah, if you're interested in having a dancer join you for drinks, a game, dinner, outside lapdances, ANY of those things, no, it doesn't hurt to approach the subject and negotiate a price, because you never know. You might get lucky. Just respect her boundaries.
    Yeah I think you are right about that and I think what you said is very true. I kind of wanted to delete what I said earlier about going to clubs and seeing dancers OTC behind my girlfriends back... that kind of looks bad oh well. I am sure most guys who go to the club don't tell their wives/girlfriends before they go "honey I will be back I am going to the strip club Atlantis and going get a bunch of nude dances with strippers so I will be home late."... "ok sweetie have fun enjoy yourself".
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    You aren't they only dude on this forum who sees dancers behind their sigfig's back.

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