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    lo and behold WHAMMA JAMMA IS BACK.
    Nice to see you man.
    I agree I thought you left us forever,
    I was like "fuck better get back on mfc"

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    Performers need to be made aware of these sort of changes. Even if you're not gonna check in on SW everyday, Phrendly has access to everyone's email address. You could send out a newsletter including this information. It shows that you actually value the people who are busting their butts to send traffic to your site. Also when exactly are you going to implement those referral codes? Now that you're saving money with your marketing efforts can you guys kick back some funds to those who put in the work?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamma View Post
    Yes, we are only giving half a drink ($5; 10 sips) now to new members once they verify their phone numbers. This is simply because it was costing too much in free drinks to acquire paying customers. The good news: In the nearly one week since making this change, we have seen no real change *except* for the savings in promotional money. It is true that newbies "run out" faster, but they become paying customers at the same rate as before. Apparently, you *are* giving them what they need to make their decision to open their wallets within the first 10 volleys.

    More importantly to you, we also saw both record spend and record earnings this past week, so while you might have to talk to more guys to get the same amount of money, they are definitely there and we'll continue to ramp our marketing efforts to ensure that remains the case.

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    Default Re: Phrendly.com, a new GFE option to consider

    I cant remember where I saw it but what is the percentage for gifts? is it 80%?

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    Oh snap yessss

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaterinaKutie View Post
    Newbies who signed up under me weren't getting ANY drinks ! If you look back I made several posts bein frustrated with it bc the text above my referral link clearly states they'll get a free drink for signing up under me. It makes the point of advertising completely moot. What incentive do they have to try out and potentially use it?

    None. I've been aggravated for days about his and judging by the none response nobody else was having the problem.
    This is one of a couple comments about our TAF program. Let me try to explain a few things--it's a mixed bag and I wish it were more rosy.

    First, some quick background. The referrer program was designed as a Tell-A-Friend program, not an affiliate program. It was essentially built so that guys could tell their buddies about Phrendly and get a little something for doing so. We might be able to agree that this probably wasn't the smartest decision, since it's not hard to imagine subsets of guys who do NOT want others to know about their use of the site. But, that's how it was designed, and is why the links just go to the front-door and not anyone's profile page.

    We were encouraged to hear many users on this forum using the TAF links, despite it's flaws and different original design objectives. Credits were granted when guys you referred became paying customers. Many of you referred other ladies, too, and rightly asked why you weren't getting credit. The reason is the program only looked at a *spend* threshold to grant the award, not an *earning* threshold. We scrambled to make this change and now you do get credit once your "friend" spends or *earns* the threshold amount. These credits are applied retro-actively once thresholds are reached and some of you have reported seeing them in your account. Yay!

    We haven't yet released the change that makes the links go to your own profile, if you are a woman with a public profile (with different logic if you aren't either of those things). We are actively working on that. It will definitely make your advertising efforts more worthwhile. All I can say is thanks to everyone who has tried to make the existing, poorly suited links work. We really appreciate it, and that's why decisions like paying retroactively for earners (rather than spenders) were easy for us. We want to keep happy the people who are working hard to make us all successful. Your collective efforts have been encouraging, particularly during the hectic stressful months of beta.

    Now, the even-less-rosy part: we did mess up regarding the change in the promotional "free drinks" change. We changed this for new sign-ups and it unfortunately and inadvertently changed the TAF program too. We're now working to fix that so that everyone you refer *does* get the $10 they are promised and not $5. We're also looking at crediting the extra $5 for your referees who were under-credited. This did NOT affect your payments. If your friend reaches the earn or spend threshold, your account will be credited.

    Let me know if there is anything else I can attempt to clarify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune Down View Post
    It was 90%, but that may have changed.
    Yup, still 90%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamma View Post
    Yup, still 90%.
    Messaged you Jamma about gifts

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    Has anybody ever had a gift not credit their account? it shows up that they sent it in their chat but does not reflect in my balance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune Down View Post

    If there is some magic algorithm that can filter out f*ckboys......... I'm all for it.
    like damn say hi first at least; buy a girl a drink first?
    I've srsly had most of my highest paying regs only want strictly sexting from the moment they first msg me. I do it bc I realize now that most of the guy's are leaning towards this moreso than "getting to know someone" & when i've denied them of sexting, i end up losing money. I do try to steer it more vanilla but if all else fails then ...hey I'm on here just to make money & apparently sex is selling LOL . I don't offer nudes unless they gift me first then it's scantily clads haha.

    How do you guys get them to just call you instead of texting? Do you girls do more texting than actual phone/video calls? Also, I've got my rates set pretty darn high at like 2 drinks per min & I'm wondering if that's why they aren't calling as much? What are your rates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLttyKat View Post
    Ok. I asked Mark--for verification. All Businesses that are whatever 1099's are are REQUIRED to 1. report earnings on any US 1099 worker earning $600 or more to the IRS and to also do a 1099 for us.

    he gave me this link--which as far as I could read, he is correct--but tax stuff confuses me--why I am getting an accountant https://www.irs.gov/uac/about-form-1099misc
    This information is incorrect. Phrendly (as well as Niteflirt) are both payment processors. We are not independent contractors nor do we work for them. We're self-employed business owners who use them to process payments for us for the services we offer on their websites. Other companies that issue 1099-K's are Uber, Ebay, Etsy and Paypal. They're a fairly new thing, having only been around for about the last 5 years. The threshold for a 1099-Misc (which is a totally different thing) is $600. Those are not used in this instance.

    You can read more here: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/under...ng-your-1099-k

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    Default Re: Phrendly.com, a new GFE option to consider

    Woke up to a 30 min phone call it's not even 6am

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    Actually, Friendzone, I would like to add something to your statement about this site and vanilla thing. Personally, I am pretty happy with the whole NF and other fetish sites. In fact, fetish is one of my main money makers as cam model, pso, and even sugar baby. I do not have those same problems that many may have with the alleged cam sites being "flooded". I am a non-nude domme and I do not get a lot of "How much bb" because I do not work on free chat sites. I work PPM, speciality, and foreign sites. Those markets are not "flooded" and have tons of untapped potential. Even my Girlfriend experience is full of different fetishes and that is how I like it.
    However, my main problem would be that the vanilla GFE market can only go so far. Because this site is competition with cam models and other sex worker who offer this as part of vip packages. In addition, look how crappy sites such as mygirlfund turned out because they catered to cheap vanilla dudes. Frankly, the key is to cater to as many demographics as possible without crushing the original idea.
    To be honest, I have brought my own fetish guys to this site but I wanted to see if the company themselves would try to market to light fetish guys. That way it doesn't to be so noticeable to the more vanilla clientele. Phrendly is not owned by any of us and I was just wishing that they could expand to cater to light fetish guys such as those into the panty fetish or tit worship. However, it is up to them and their version. I just know that as an adult business owner myself that fetish guys spend more money on their various fetishes than vanilla guys. I am thinking of Phrendly marketing to fetish guys such as panty boys and other light fetish guys as expanding both our choices and money. My original post about marketing to fetish guys was coming from a business perspective not a personal one.
    That's great you don't get flooded with time-waster bb commenters, but just like anything non-adult oriented, they exist, and the more they are led to believe we are here to serve their needs, the more they come in droves. I agree the vanilla GFE can only go so far, it ran its course rather quickly in the beginning of the internet's overabundance of widely accessible adult content. I think we're essentially in agreement about variations of GFE and this site could tap into its potential, but I think it may sink too quickly as more sex workers flock to it and the more that's offered for less work on the man's part (like the above screenshot "nudes?" in the first message to get as much freebies as possible before his $5 credit runs out). I think if they advertise by creating categories for us, it will end up being passed off as another porn site. That's why we're getting lots of messages from guys with, "is this real?" "i was just seeing if this was a real girl, not a bot" etc. They already are suspicious of the site and I think if it starts looking like a porn site, that's the type of consumer we can expect.
    Like Neptune and Jupiter were saying, this is a nice conversational alternative to our usual horny male sex work conversations. That's nice if you are a NN domme and don't receive as many spam comments like that from guys, but for many of us who've had to grown accustomed to that, this platform is a very nice alternative. The guys who want to start with sexts and nudes up front are the ones easily weeded out from ever becoming serious paying regulars because when you request a gift ($10 for god's sake) the gentlemen will spend it, and the ones who would be paying more than a couple dollars will call, do video, or keep texting long after their free credits expire. I wouldn't perform any labor before receiving payment, it shouldn't be any different on this site. Nothing wrong with jumping into the sexting for the text rate as its already higher than some text-only sites as it is! I'm thinking more long-term. That's why I made the comparison to early 2000's cam sites.. while of course there was sexually explicit content, the rules of the sites and how customers engaged with the models were completely different from how they are now, just like how sugar dating sites, in their infancy, weren't all scammers and cheap men posing as wealth for a quick and easy lay. Men are too entitled as it is, we should be demanding more from them.

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    i honestly don't know what to do anymore, POF isn't an option it seems because even when i open a new acc it's like it gets closed instantly, then okcupid doesn't work either since i send a message back about phrendly but none join and CL just flags my ads and i don't even get emails to it, i wanna cry gaaah

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotus_latte View Post
    i honestly don't know what to do anymore, POF isn't an option it seems because even when i open a new acc it's like it gets closed instantly, then okcupid doesn't work either since i send a message back about phrendly but none join and CL just flags my ads and i don't even get emails to it, i wanna cry gaaah
    CL was a bust for me, too, but I did get a couple guys saying they heard about the site that way.. Have you tried Canada's backpage? They still have an adult section, and maybe some of the larger cities there will bring some new guys? I've also been trying to find other places to promote other than Reddit..

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    Well, I am from a different train of thoughts about this site than most of the girls on it. I just thought in the terms of marketing but as I said before...this is not my business platform, marketing plan, nor business vision. If other girls are okay with this, then fine. If the company is okay with this direction, then it is fine by me. I already have my own established company, brands, and vision.So, I am just on phrendly as I am on many different sites and just asked them about marketing to other demographics. That is all. I was just thinking about the money aspect and nothing more.
    I have tons of different clientele from my different brands. Plus, I do not buy sugar dating sites not having scammers and cheap men on them from the beginning. They always had such men. This why I freestyle as an sugar baby with much success. Nor do I perform any labor in this industry without getting paid from men. They buy my kik memberships, phone calls, cam shows, erotica and other things.Plus, I always demand more from men and they deliver.I rule my life and career with an iron fist. That is all have to say about phrendly marketing to fetish guys. So, best of luck to you and the other ladies on this site

    Quote Originally Posted by friendzone View Post
    That's great you don't get flooded with time-waster bb commenters, but just like anything non-adult oriented, they exist, and the more they are led to believe we are here to serve their needs, the more they come in droves. I agree the vanilla GFE can only go so far, it ran its course rather quickly in the beginning of the internet's overabundance of widely accessible adult content. I think we're essentially in agreement about variations of GFE and this site could tap into its potential, but I think it may sink too quickly as more sex workers flock to it and the more that's offered for less work on the man's part (like the above screenshot "nudes?" in the first message to get as much freebies as possible before his $5 credit runs out). I think if they advertise by creating categories for us, it will end up being passed off as another porn site. That's why we're getting lots of messages from guys with, "is this real?" "i was just seeing if this was a real girl, not a bot" etc. They already are suspicious of the site and I think if it starts looking like a porn site, that's the type of consumer we can expect.
    Like Neptune and Jupiter were saying, this is a nice conversational alternative to our usual horny male sex work conversations. That's nice if you are a NN domme and don't receive as many spam comments like that from guys, but for many of us who've had to grown accustomed to that, this platform is a very nice alternative. The guys who want to start with sexts and nudes up front are the ones easily weeded out from ever becoming serious paying regulars because when you request a gift ($10 for god's sake) the gentlemen will spend it, and the ones who would be paying more than a couple dollars will call, do video, or keep texting long after their free credits expire. I wouldn't perform any labor before receiving payment, it shouldn't be any different on this site. Nothing wrong with jumping into the sexting for the text rate as its already higher than some text-only sites as it is! I'm thinking more long-term. That's why I made the comparison to early 2000's cam sites.. while of course there was sexually explicit content, the rules of the sites and how customers engaged with the models were completely different from how they are now, just like how sugar dating sites, in their infancy, weren't all scammers and cheap men posing as wealth for a quick and easy lay. Men are too entitled as it is, we should be demanding more from them.
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    Yeah we complain about having bad days and shit, but so far, the "vanilla" and "GFE" aspect is working for a lot of us and we are having success. Dont want it to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friendzone View Post
    CL was a bust for me, too, but I did get a couple guys saying they heard about the site that way.. Have you tried Canada's backpage? They still have an adult section, and maybe some of the larger cities there will bring some new guys? I've also been trying to find other places to promote other than Reddit..
    ty, i'll give it a try! where do you promote on reddit? i never tried it before

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    I usually get guys talking for a few, then ask where I'm from and disappear. I have a few that want nudes. and one that is very dominate. which I dont mind at all. but... I have asked for gifts, I wish someone would send them. I don't like sending out photos for pennies. guys keep asking me to use kik or sending their number. no one just chatting for a GFE ... except ONE guy... the rest honestly think this is a dating site... I mean really... I have had no one that thought that we werent going to meet at some point. Some guy even told me to let him know when he should meet me at the airport

    Maybe I'm to old for this site lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune Down View Post

    If there is some magic algorithm that can filter out f*ckboys......... I'm all for it.
    like damn say hi first at least; buy a girl a drink first?
    im sassy and irish lol i would knock them down a peg and say something like "is that how you talk to girls at a bar just walk up to them and say 'sex?' how about a 'hi' first at least" and if i was in bad mood id add on "but thats probably y ur here... it dosnet go well for you huh it doesnt work well here either at least not with me so try again ?"
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    hey support emailed me back and said they would fix the .5 drink thing? (I had emailed them before Jamma clarified) but I dont think everyone is on the same page lol

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    I am not showing up in the lineup or if you search by my screen name - you might want to check for your own profile often ladies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    I am not showing up in the lineup or if you search by my screen name - you might want to check for your own profile often ladies
    I see you. Are your age filters set appropriately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    I am not showing up in the lineup or if you search by my screen name - you might want to check for your own profile often ladies
    How do you even search for yourself? I am only able to see guys? even searching my name doesn't work . It only says "Show men ages 18-60 available for Chat" so I can't even search for woman

    Also:

    If a guy initiates the chat but wants US to call him... is it US that gets charged for the call? or is he still getting the charge since HE initiated the original texting?

    I have this guy and he keeps on wanting to give me his phone number t odo some off site and he will come back and pay me on the site every now and then... dude I GET FUCKING PAID FOR THIS EVERY DAY... I WILL NOT BE YOUR CUM SLUT FOR FREE, it's almost like free chat but not kwim and I so badly want to tell him that!!!! (end rant)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxtinamariexx View Post
    How do you even search for yourself? I am only able to see guys? even searching my name doesn't work . It only says "Show men ages 18-60 available for Chat" so I can't even search for woman

    Also:

    If a guy initiates the chat but wants US to call him... is it US that gets charged for the call? or is he still getting the charge since HE initiated the original texting?

    I have this guy and he keeps on wanting to give me his phone number t odo some off site and he will come back and pay me on the site every now and then... dude I GET FUCKING PAID FOR THIS EVERY DAY... I WILL NOT BE YOUR CUM SLUT FOR FREE, it's almost like free chat but not kwim and I so badly want to tell him that!!!! (end rant)
    I search for myself by not signing in & searching men seeking women ages (your age range) I'm usually on 1st page but have noticed lately that I'm getting bumped down a row each day or two, not sure why.

    Also for the calls, I'm pretty sure whoever calls gets charged. Like say if he calls then he gets charged, same with the messages (unless he's already messaged you then you don't get charged he does). MAke sense? If i'm wrong someone PLEASE correct me lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxxGothBarbie View Post
    I search for myself by not signing in & searching men seeking women ages (your age range) I'm usually on 1st page but have noticed lately that I'm getting bumped down a row each day or two, not sure why.

    Also for the calls, I'm pretty sure whoever calls gets charged. Like say if he calls then he gets charged, same with the messages (unless he's already messaged you then you don't get charged he does). MAke sense? If i'm wrong someone PLEASE correct me lol
    Yes, for any real-time interaction (calls, video), whoever initiates pays. Chat pay direction is permanent based on who initiated the first message (they are the payer).
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