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    Default Why do you think strippers who are veterans seem to make more than younger dancers?

    I think I have posted previously that I am attracted to the young dancers in early 20's, but I always find myself ditching them to veterans who been stripping for like 10+ years and I notice these same girls also seem to lose customers to veterans too. There are some girls in early 20's who started when 18 who I like but they have already had like 4-5yrs of experience under belt and behave different than young girls in early 20's who just started.

    Why do you think the veterans in club seem to make the most money?

    I got a few ideas...

    One stripper who had been stripping for over 10+ years said that she leaves any emotional baggage she has at home that too often she sees with the young girls they bring their emotional problems into the club and it really has an effect on sales, guys get turned off by the attitude. She also said with some of they younger dancers they aren't there for the money, but for the flirt. They sit with guys all night for free who aren't paying them money or buying any dances. She said if she wanted the thrill of guys flirting with her she would go to a bar. She said no one sits with her for free in the club, she is here to make money.

    I also see dancers not liking another dancer because she has a habit of stealing her customers away from her. My feeling is if her customers are ditching her for another dancer she must be doing something wrong. Often times I see young dancers lose customers to the veterans. Dancers will use the excuse that they lose customers to more attractive girls, I find blaming everything on "looks" is a convenient cop-out girls use instead of taking responsibility and changing what they are doing in the club.

    I also notice the veteran dancers who seem to have the VIP rooms and dance booths booked all night, even though they are the more busy girls in the club, ironically aren't too busy for a new customer and always seem willing to squeeze in an extra customer during their shift. Where the young girl who is getting no dances and is busy flirting all night, seems to ignore a lot guys and is too busy...and this same girl will leave the club complaining she "made no money tonight".

    It also seems to survive in the club as a dancer for 10+ years and be a great money earner it takes brains. Many of the veteran dancers in the club seem to me a lot smarter then the new young girls who have been dancing for a few months.

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    Default Re: Why do you think strippers who are veterans seem to make more than younger dancer

    It's pretty simple: veterans have more sales experience and have built up a client base. That's why veterans in any sales industry make more money than newbies.

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    Default Re: Why do you think strippers who are veterans seem to make more than younger dancer

    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    It's pretty simple: veterans have more sales experience and have built up a client base. That's why veterans in any sales industry make more money than newbies.
    Totally agree. Also, there is somewhat of a selection process at play. Dancers who have been around 10+ years tend to be the best of the best. If someone started 10 yers ago and was really bad at stripping and never made money, they'd stop. The ones that stick around for 10+ years have clearly found a place for themselves.
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    Default Re: Why do you think strippers who are veterans seem to make more than younger dancer

    I feel like you're answering your own question.
    Obviously if the young girl sits at the bar all night & flirts in exchange for her vodka cranberry, obviously the veteran who is actually working will make more.

    Otherwise if you were to pit a young stripper 3 MONTHS in against a veteran with 3 YEARS in, and both have the same work ethic, the veteran will come out ahead for many reasons... maybe she's doing all of them or just a few, but she definitely has any of these up on the newbie:

    A) She probably has at least 1 or 2 regulars in a week
    B) She has probably figured out the best time vs. profit strategies, i.e., should she sell a champagne room or make up her own block-of-time package in the dance area, when is the club super slow & hence a good time to call in her regular before it gets busy, etc.
    C) If she's been at that club a while, she knows who the time waster customers are and ignores them
    D) She may have 'social capital' where the doormen or waitresses hook her up with spenders
    E) Random general experience-related things, like knowing what closing line to use on different guys, identifying bullshitters, and the general ballsiness/confidence that comes with experience & helps with closing sales more quickly.
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    Default Re: Why do you think strippers who are veterans seem to make more than younger dancer

    All very true. The veterans also seem to have this emotional maturity about them that I like. I find some of the younger dancers in the club very emotional immature and I am getting fed up with it. I am thinking of making a veteran or two in a club regular dancers of mine for a lot the reasons I described. I reflect back in my head the way I see veterans have treated me and other customers, then I think back to the way some of the very young dancers have treated me and other customers. The veterans seem to treat me like I am #1 and special and they seem to be less selfish thinking more about their customers. It is not just the way they have treated me, but the way I see them treat their other customers which I like. I noticed the veterans that I like don't go around badmouthing other dancers or customers which I like to see, when a dancer goes around badmouthing behind people's back I tend to assume when I leave the club I will be treated the same way. The veterans I like seem to keep their issues with customers to themselves and the customers and the issues they have with another dancer to themselves and that dancer.

    I use to go after grinding girls, but any dancer can grind and it is quickly starting to become much less important to me in the long run. I use to go after grinding girls for 3 years, but it is kind of like been there done that I want something different than that ... some attributes about the dancers emotional maturity and character that I find in veterans. The veterans offer a lot more that I just can't find in many dancers and their is one veteran who I really like who doesn't grind, but it doesn't really bother me because she always treats me like I am #1 regardless if spend as little as a tip on stage or get a VIP with her. She never acts greedy toward me or demands more and I see her treating me with the same respect and fairness she gives all her other customers.
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    Default Re: Why do you think strippers who are veterans seem to make more than younger dancer

    I think a lot of veteran dancers are very attractive. I don't think it's an "in spite of their age" thing. I've only worked with one who looked really bad. The rest of them invested in plastic surgery, were fit, had long time very wealthy regulars (and lots of them), knew exactly what they were doing.

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    Hate to say it, but I also know a lot of Veterans who actually become more immature as they age. They get all jealous and insecure and start saying crap about how other dancers are stealing their customers, etc. When in reality they are just jealous lazy bitches who sit at the end of the bar all night and seethe when they see other dancers hustling and making money. I'm dealing with that right now actually, and I'm a veteran myself.

    Veterans know the game. They see through the b.s. and they have a handle on things and treat it like a business, as they should.

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    Default Re: Why do you think strippers who are veterans seem to make more than younger dancer

    I will say too I think how much a dancer needs the cash is a big incentive too. What I find mostly to be true, but not always is the very young dancers in 18, 19, 20, 21 have a lot less cash incentives to make as much money as they can as dancers in their later 20's and 30's. They don't have kids, they don't have families to take care of, they might not have a house payment to worry about, or need to pay off a college loan, etc. I have had veteran dancers who have been really nicer to me and begging for dances and VIPs who will say they have all these bills to pay and kids to take care of... so I think that is a factor too. A very young dancer who lets say doesn't have kids, maybe has family help them out maybe even lives with a family member, isn't in debt is going to have a lot less of a cash incentive to really work hard in the club. Instead just going for the flirt and getting kicks off of flirting with guys around her own age may be a bigger incentive than trying to get sales from guys in their mid 30's, 40, 50's etc because she really doesn't need the money. Maybe completely wrong, but that is something I been figuring out in the clubs.

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    There are a lot of reasons, most of them already mentioned, but I also think that the older veteran dancers are more business minded than some of the younger ones. I've noticed not all, but a lot of new younger dancers will get sidetracked working whether its drinking with customers for free without bothering to ask for dances or flirting with customers they think are cute which costs them money while the older dancers are more focused on money, unimpressed by hot young college boys or partying. They have also figured out their hustle and most likely have some regular customers who spend on them.

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    When I was a n00b I was too busy putting my earnings up my nose.
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