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    Default Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    I tend to agree with this. These are the best 50 cities to be a Stripper.

    http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-3...f-america.html

    Portland, Tampa, Fayetteville, Miami, Atlanta, New Orleans, Las Vegas, Cleveland, Detroit, Newark, etc.

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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    While it is an interesting article, I don't agree that those are the best cities to be a stripper, it just lists the cities with the most clubs per capita. Also I'm not sure how accurate the data is. Providence RI has a population of 178K people and 5 clubs that I know of but it could be six as I am not sure if they shut down one of them or it moved?
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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    ^ they shut down cheaters cause of that scandal w the 15 year old (I believe that's why). I loved providence and made great money, but Boston and New England in general is just..ehh w stripping. Too puritanical. I can't imagine Detroit is good?? That really shocks me if that's true

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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    Yes, I was thinking Cheaters was closed and also the Satin Doll I think is closed and the Sportsman. They still have Cadillac Lounge, Foxxy, Fantasies, Club Desire (I think), Wild Zebra, Wonderland, I am not sure if I missed any but that is 6 in a city of 178,000 and should be on this list.
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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    Quote Originally Posted by Gia2608 View Post
    Also I'm not sure how accurate the data is. Providence RI has a population of 178K people and 5 clubs that I know of but it could be six as I am not sure if they shut down one of them or it moved?
    Funny, I was looking for Providence this well. Cheaters shut down and reopened as Wild Zebra. Satin Doll is shut down permanently. Scores and Cadillac Lounge worked out some deal. Wonderland is newly opened. So Providence clubs remain the same in quantity.

    In full, alphabetically, it's: Club Desire, Club Fantasies, Foxy Lady, Scores Cadillac Lounge, Wild Zebra, Wonderland.

    Though 178k/6 is about 30k or 0.30 per 100k. Fiftieth on the list is 1.285 per 100k (over four times the ratio), so it wouldn't be on the list.

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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    Newark??? Really????

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpacrkk View Post
    Funny, I was looking for Providence this well. Cheaters shut down and reopened as Wild Zebra. Satin Doll is shut down permanently. Scores and Cadillac Lounge worked out some deal. Wonderland is newly opened. So Providence clubs remain the same in quantity.

    In full, alphabetically, it's: Club Desire, Club Fantasies, Foxy Lady, Scores Cadillac Lounge, Wild Zebra, Wonderland.

    Though 178k/6 is about 30k or 0.30 per 100k. Fiftieth on the list is 1.285 per 100k (over four times the ratio), so it wouldn't be on the list.

    Thanks. I didn't feel like doing math but just eyeballing it - didn't seem right to me.
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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    I don't really see how having the most clubs is indicative of the "best places to be a stripper". I see how the ratio works but without looking at the actual population demographic (i.e. is much of the population too young to go to clubs, average wage is low, etc ) it's just a number.

    Like, a list assembled by actual strippers would probably focus more on quality clubs with high earning potential and good management. It's not a big deal from the dancer side if a city has a lot of clubs, if most of the clubs have low customer quality, cheap dances, expected contact levels at all clubs are against local bylaws... etc.

    Also the number of clubs doesn't necessarily demonstrate how many clubs the city could actually support... there's plenty of places that could have more clubs than they do, but city councils are full of prudes that make sure anyone trying to get a license to have strippers gets nowhere. Conversely, there are cities that have clubs that don't ever seem to make any money, yet have been around for a long time, perhaps just functioning as laundromats for the owners.

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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    Why isn't New York City and Chicago on that list?

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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    Cities with the most clubs are probably best for customers. Cities with the least clubs are probably best for dancers, since there's less competition.

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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    Also, cities with the highest income are probably good for dancers.

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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJa View Post
    Like, a list assembled by actual strippers would probably focus more on quality clubs with high earning potential and good management.
    Yeah...some clubs are small with only 10 strippers working there while other clubs are large with hundreds of strippers working there.

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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Also, cities with the highest income are probably good for dancers.
    This seems intuitively true, but it really depends on management. For example, I'm from Chicago and dance in the west suburbs (with a cost of living significantly lower than in the city proper). I was really excited to go to to San Francisco because the cost of living is SO high there. While dances cost more nearly double what they do here, the management structure makes the earning potential ridiculously lower. Instead of having set fees, the clubs (all owned by Deja Vu) just take half your money* (plus you are still expected to tip DJ, etc.). (* this can be slightly reduced by having a set schedule, but the best split I saw while I was there was 70%/30% which require you to work >3 nights per week, checked in and ready by 6pm each night, staying until close each night, and committed to a specific schedule more than a week in advance.)

    Here, we pay a house fee (varies between $25 and $75 depending on when you check in), plus tip-outs (around $20-$30 a night unless you hit it big in VIP). Obviously the club takes a portion of all rooms, club cash, and credit card swipes, and some clubs also collect $3-$5 per dance, though others don't.

    So let's say I had a night where I made $1000 doing only dances, no rooms (this is common for me). In Chicago, I'd likely pay out no more than $200 in fees (more like $100 if its a club that doesn't take dance money) making my net earnings $800-$900. In SF I'd only ever see $500 of that money at all, and then would still need to tip people on top of that.
    Also, no matter where you are, it's just harder to sell a $60 dance (nude in SF) than a $30 dance (nude in Chicago).

    So, in short, while it would seem that high cost of living = high earnings, it's not always true.
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    Default Re: Top 50 cities to be a Stripper

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffb View Post
    Why isn't New York City and Chicago on that list?
    Because they have fewer than one club per 128k people living there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectraRayne View Post
    This seems intuitively true, but it really depends on management. For example, I'm from Chicago and dance in the west suburbs (with a cost of living significantly lower than in the city proper). I was really excited to go to to San Francisco because the cost of living is SO high there. While dances cost more nearly double what they do here, the management structure makes the earning potential ridiculously lower. Instead of having set fees, the clubs (all owned by Deja Vu) just take half your money* (plus you are still expected to tip DJ, etc.). (* this can be slightly reduced by having a set schedule, but the best split I saw while I was there was 70%/30% which require you to work >3 nights per week, checked in and ready by 6pm each night, staying until close each night, and committed to a specific schedule more than a week in advance.)

    Here, we pay a house fee (varies between $25 and $75 depending on when you check in), plus tip-outs (around $20-$30 a night unless you hit it big in VIP). Obviously the club takes a portion of all rooms, club cash, and credit card swipes, and some clubs also collect $3-$5 per dance, though others don't.

    So let's say I had a night where I made $1000 doing only dances, no rooms (this is common for me). In Chicago, I'd likely pay out no more than $200 in fees (more like $100 if its a club that doesn't take dance money) making my net earnings $800-$900. In SF I'd only ever see $500 of that money at all, and then would still need to tip people on top of that.
    Also, no matter where you are, it's just harder to sell a $60 dance (nude in SF) than a $30 dance (nude in Chicago).

    So, in short, while it would seem that high cost of living = high earnings, it's not always true.
    I hated dancing in SF solely because you are set up to minimize your profit as a dancer. 3 pre-scheduled mandatory shifts per week minimum, Sunday or Monday slow shift required, required to be there by 6-8pm or you get a huge fine or not allowed to work, must stay the entire shift til closing, most weeknights completely dead unless you get lucky off one guy, weekends oversaturated with girls so there's still not enough custys to go around, really high cuts and tip outs, high cost of living (rent esp), nude clubs being extras-expectant and topless clubs being oversatured with girls and time wasters, BART closing at like midnight so all the $$$$ guys who are married or want to own a big house live in the north/east/South Bay so they have to leave well before BART closes. Literally everything is inconvenient as a dancer there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJa View Post
    I don't really see how having the most clubs is indicative of the "best places to be a stripper". I see how the ratio works but without looking at the actual population demographic (i.e. is much of the population too young to go to clubs, average wage is low, etc ) it's just a number.

    Like, a list assembled by actual strippers would probably focus more on quality clubs with high earning potential and good management. It's not a big deal from the dancer side if a city has a lot of clubs, if most of the clubs have low customer quality, cheap dances, expected contact levels at all clubs are against local bylaws... etc.

    Also the number of clubs doesn't necessarily demonstrate how many clubs the city could actually support... there's plenty of places that could have more clubs than they do, but city councils are full of prudes that make sure anyone trying to get a license to have strippers gets nowhere. Conversely, there are cities that have clubs that don't ever seem to make any money, yet have been around for a long time, perhaps just functioning as laundromats for the owners.
    100% sure that a lot of these clubs (as with any brick and mortar business) are only open and in business as a means to launder drug money or other dirty money through, legally. Therefore, more clubs does not mean it's more lucrative for dancers.

    I once met this crazy sexworker whose family owned a bead store. They bragged about how they were so lucky to have such a successful bead store that brought in so much money. Anyone with a brain could probably put two and two together. They had a longtime family business of growing and distributing weed, and laundering the profits from that through their bead store so the money would look clean. Even the grandma helped distribute and was in on it lol.

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    Tampa is definitely not the best place to dance. The only club Worthy is "2001 Odyssey" then again I'm black so I can't get hired at thee dollhouse which I heard was good or deja vu's. De ja vu's may be good but I didn't get hired there because I'm sure it's because of the same reason as dollhouse but I can't safe for sure about deja vu's either best way they take half of you're $$$ so maybe that was a blessing in disguise! All other clubs are trash currently mons Venus isn't good either but once was. I say this is to say that Tampa has plenty of clubs but it's quantity over quality here so don't be fooled. Out of all of these clubs only 5 are good and some of those are not directly in Tampa but over the bridge such as Clearwater.

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