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    I think about death and wondering if there is anything more afterwards every single day. I think it is because I deal with depression so much. I even wake up at night thinking about it.

    I am starting to think it is impossible that our "soul" or our energy lives on and lately I have been thinking that it is more logical that when we are dead, then that is just the end, though I really want there to be more. I do not see how it could be possible that we are reincarnated/born into a new life or that there will be a place with pearly gates up in the sky that we go to if we do good in life. Do you think religion is just for comfort?

    I still refuse to call myself atheist and consider myself to be more of an agnostic. I am open to the possibility of there being more and I want there to be, but the more I think about it, the more I wonder how it could even be possible.

    What are your thoughts on life after death and if you will just cease to exist, does that thought bother you or are you OK with it? I know myself, I get so much anxiety when I think about it.

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    I don't believe in souls, any deities, or an afterlife. I do somewhat feel a connection to Universal Unitarians, although I still consider myself an atheist. Like, it would be cool and all if there was some magical place the people I cared about who died went, but I don't believe it. I'd rather think about the good times with them, and try to honor their legacies by donating to charities or helping causes they cared about.

    I get anxious thinking about my own mortality sometimes but I found Cognitive Behavior Therapy to be somewhat helpful for that as well as some other anxiety stuff.

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    Okay.

    1.) Energy cannot be created or destroyed, so I'd like to know where dead people's energy goes
    2.) I have intelligently communicated with the dead enough (and with proof like recorded EVP) to know that it's not so black and white. And do you think a million other people with pranormal experiences (especially recorded intelligent unexplained proof) just all pulled these ideas out of their ass? No. Shit is real.

    Until someone can explain both of those with logical in-depth reasonings, there is some form of afterlife.

    And honestly, I hate when people argue things as black and white. In this case, real vs non-existent. One religion vs another religion. This is also why politics is an annoying topic. It's never black vs white no matter how much you try to prove it.

    These secular cultures around the world didn't all pull the same concepts and stories out of their ass. But that doesn't mean things need to be taken 100% literal or that its impossible therefore is 100% wrong. Look what they all have in common, and with their cultural values factored out (since you can only process experiences through the eyes of your own culture), and the truth is all that's left.

    The truth always lies somewhere in the middle of all theories honestly. Always. But theories don't come from nowhere.

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    I've actually had a near death experience. My soul left my body and hovered by the ceiling. There was no pain, no fear, in fact it was an exhilarating experience. I had no worries. I knew what was happening, and it didn't scare me at all. In fact, it was really cool. I'll go so far as to say i even enjoyed it ! I was an energy, hovering by my ceiling, when the opening of a tunnel appeared to me. I gravitated towards the opening of the tunnel but then recoiled, because I knew going into the tunnel meant I would progress further into my death, and I wasn't ready to go yet. I had too much stuff to do while on earth. With that thought, I was slammed back into my body and jolted back to life. I then saw a beautiful white, all-knowing, POWERFUL light. The light gave me a life review. I saw the truth about my life, what my faults were, and I was given a job that tied in with my life's purpose. I was not on drugs. It was not a dream. It was a very beautiful and sacred experience and I saw what a gift life is and how we need to cherish it. If you're depressed, please get help. Suicide is not the answer. Things will get better. Life is supposed to be hard. We are all brave for coming here to earth, we are all meant to be here. All this said, of course I believe in God. I am not afraid to die. You continue to live, just without a physical body. I intend to write a book about what I experienced as soon as I'm done working on my screenplay. I'm going to write a book giving a very detailed description of what my death felt like, and what I've learned about life and death. Life is truly precious, and love is what matters most. It was truly very enlightening and not a day goes by when I don't think about it. My near death experience happened in 2006.
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    From what I've heard of other people's near death experiences and spiritual/religious text is that afterlife is pleasureable place where there is no emotional or physical suffering.

    Our family and friends who have passed away and departed from this physical world can still communicate with us via dreams, mediums, etc.
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    IMO, it's just a different dimension. That's why we don't see ghosts 24/7 and how EVP and orbs can be easily recorded by rarely heard/seen with the naked ear/eye unless drastic. String theory. Quantum mechanics.

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    I absolutely believe that something goes on after physical death. Like was mentioned above, energy cannot be destroyed. So whether that means your soul goes onto another body or whether all that energy merges with other energy goes Into to another body, your energy goes on in some way. Nothing is 100% proven, so the belief that you go on is a belief just like the belief that nothing happens. I love life but im very interested to see what's on the other side. I've also had definite experiences I can't explain.

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    I really hope there's something more out there. I guess the good news is that if there's not, we won't know either way because we'll be dead. I've had some eerie experiences that make me lean towards believing in an afterlife. I'm content believing that all we see, is not all there is.

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    I don't get it. Are you saying mental health disorders already feel like death? Not sure why I am not getting it....

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    There's some kind of afterlife, what, we cannot know for certain. All i know is, I know way too many people personally that have had paranormal stuff happen to them for it to not be real, I myself have had weird things happen to me that don't have a logical explanation to them.

    THERE IS AN AFTERLIFE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvaSkye View Post
    I don't get it. Are you saying mental health disorders already feel like death? Not sure why I am not getting it....
    I believe mental disorders are so hard to imagine for someone who don't have it. Artists have to draw those frightening illustrations, that capture the dreadful human conditions. Some seem scary.

    About after death subject:
    According to Buddhism, after death one is either reborn into another body (reincarnated) or enters nirvana. Only Buddhas (those who have attained enlightenment) will achieve nirvana.


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    A flickering lamp - a phantom - and a dream.
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    One thing I learned from my near death experience is that life, with all of its illusions and BS, is way scarier than death. After death, all the illusions are unveiled, and you see everything as it really is.
    Like I said, during my NDE I didn't go into the tunnel that would've taken me to the other side. Sometimes I wish I did, because I am curious, but at the same time I've read stories about people who go to heaven and back and they become depressed because they want to go back and not be on earth anymore. At least I got to see the Light though. That was enough for me.

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    I've never fully believed in an afterlife. I was raised Catholic, but as soon as I learned there were people who called themselves atheists and didn't believe in a god, I knew I was one of them. This was around 8th grade.

    Many atheists I know say that they're not afraid of death, but it scares me shitless. Why shouldn't it? Death is a solitary journey, it is the unknown, and it is inevitable yet out of our control.

    I've seen my grandparents go through a slow dying process from cancer, and I remember reading a hospice pamphlet about how when a person is dying, they slowly accept death and start to wish for it. It is no longer frightening. I found that to be reassuring. The scary part about death, in my opinion, is the pain and the potential of dying suddenly by something not age-related.

    I see the value in religion, but I think it leads some people to take this life for granted because they believe they will one day go to heaven. All we're really guaranteed is the present moment. Buddhism is really great at teaching mindfulness and living in the present, although I don't subscribe to Buddhist views on the afterlife.

    My advice... try not to spend your life worrying about things you can't control. Death is one of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baer45 View Post
    I believe mental disorders are so hard to imagine for someone who don't have it. Artists have to draw those frightening illustrations, that capture the dreadful human conditions. Some seem scary.

    About after death subject:
    According to Buddhism, after death one is either reborn into another body (reincarnated) or enters nirvana. Only Buddhas (those who have attained enlightenment) will achieve nirvana.


    Life is a journey.
    Death is a return to earth.
    The universe is like an inn.
    The passing years are like dust.
    Regard this phantom world
    As a star at dawn, a bubble in a stream,
    A flash of lightning in a summer cloud,
    A flickering lamp - a phantom - and a dream.
    Well I do hope there is something more. Reincarnation would not be so bad. I also agree with you that unless someone suffers from a mental health disorder themselves, it is impossible to grasp just how scary they can be and how much they affect someone's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveyDovey View Post
    One thing I learned from my near death experience is that life, with all of its illusions and BS, is way scarier than death. After death, all the illusions are unveiled, and you see everything as it really is.
    Like I said, during my NDE I didn't go into the tunnel that would've taken me to the other side. Sometimes I wish I did, because I am curious, but at the same time I've read stories about people who go to heaven and back and they become depressed because they want to go back and not be on earth anymore. At least I got to see the Light though. That was enough for me.
    At least you do not have to be afraid of death anymore.

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    I also think about the serial killers, the rapists, the child molesters, etc that are out there. Some of them go through life never even getting caught. Wouldn't it seem right that people like that get punished for it, either some form of hell or being reincarnated into a next life where they suffer? Sometimes I do feel like with how terrible some people are, that there should be some form of a punishment for them.

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    ^^I feel like people who torment others do so because they are already extremely tormented, so they're getting their 'karma' on earth. Like Celie says in the Color Purple to her abusive husband(paraphrasing): 'Everything you've done to me has already been done to you.' Once they pass on the tormentors' suffering can finally end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvaSkye View Post
    At least you do not have to be afraid of death anymore.
    Oh it was amazing. Beautiful. No words, really. When it's time to go again I know I'll be at peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvaSkye View Post
    I also think about the serial killers, the rapists, the child molesters, etc that are out there. Some of them go through life never even getting caught. Wouldn't it seem right that people like that get punished for it, either some form of hell or being reincarnated into a next life where they suffer? Sometimes I do feel like with how terrible some people are, that there should be some form of a punishment for them.
    When you pass on, you are held responsible for all your actions. It's my understanding that when you pass on, you experience the emotions of the people you affected, for better or worse, only the feelings are amplified. So if a child molester rapes a child, that child molester will experience all the pain they caused, only even more so. They will see the consequences of their actions and they will feel the amplified pain, depression, anxiety, etc. they caused. Which is why it's important that we treat others with kindness and respect. Because then we experience all the joy we caused others, only more so.

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    Up until my early thirties I was a "believing" christian. For a while I was even going to daily mass before work. But then I got really interested in philosophy and mythology. After reading a LOT from Joseph Campbell and tons of books on evolution etc. I came to the conclusion that whatever IS "after" is way to complicated for our monkey brains to understand. Certainly not simple enough for some dude to stand up and use to lecture people with.

    I read this book and it had some useful meditations (that I still do daily) called the "feeling exercise."



    It's not about religion per se, but how to get in touch with your "energy" which is the same "energy" that EVERYTHING is made from.

    Pretty simple breakdown .

    I think any kind of daily meditation or introspection can help alleviate any feelings of stress or worry, they certainly help with me.

    Just get quiet, close your eyes, breathe slowly and pay attention to your "feelings" and then pay attention to the "energy" in those feelings, and recognize it as the SAME energy that is in everything.

    I also have a great aunt whose husband was killed flying for the air force, and at the moment of his death, she saw him standing before her bed and knew he was dead before anybody else.

    I think if you live AS IF there is an afterlife and you WILL be held responsible, you can't go too wrong.

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    I have a zillion stories. Many with proof, either recorded or witnessed.

    A sibling died. He loved his BB gun. He died via gunshot (not a BB gun). I lived with my mother and that's it. My mother was OCD clean and would clean & vacuum the carpet everyday. She was always literally compulsively clean.

    There were times where I'd be sitting on the floor as a child and I'd see tons of BBs in the carpet when I looked closely. This was in areas that had been vacuumed over a million times over. I'd pick them up, hold them in my hand, show them to my mom. They were real.

    There should not have been any BBs. I was in a room by myself. No one who currently lived in my household had a gun or BBs. No one who came into the house would have those and why would they be on the floor? Not even just spilled on top of the carpet, but imbedded as if they were lodged in there. A vacuum would have detected metal right away. Yet they were everywhere in the carpet at random times. One time there must have been like 20 BBs.

    Where the fuck did the BBs come from? Why were they there? How did they get there? Who/what put them there? How does this work? I showed them to my mom. She wasn't even phased because she's had a zillion more paranormal things happen to her than I have.

    Is this not evidence enough that something weird is going on? This is one of like 50 stories I have.

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    I believe that by believing in an afterlife only makes you take this real earth life for granted. If you believe there's more to come after death you won't appreciate your time on earth as much. I believe that after we die, we simply enter whatever state we were in before we were ever conceived. Before you were conceived you were in a place neither good nor bad. You just weren't aware because your mind didn't exist. After death your brain stops sending signals, thus your mind no longer exists just like before you were conceived. It's nothing to fear because fear will not exist. Nothing will exist. Basically like when you go to sleep but don't dream. While you're sleeping without dreams you are unaware. I think it would basically be the same.

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    I dont believe in anything like that, as i was studying for jukai ( a Buddhist tradition) and really got to thinking about it, and debating interpretations, I found more peace and beauty in some more of the rules of physics and just common law of the universe.

    ( its a common misconception in the west that all Buddhists believe in reincarnation or see Buddhas and bhodistavas as gods other things, Buddhism isnt a stand alone religion- its a supplemental philosophy. IE Tibetan buddhism is woven into their natural beliefs, Many forms of Zen from mainland china are woven with Taoist ideas, Siddhartha ( the first Buddha) himself still functioned off a branch of Hinduism practiced in his part of napal - Im Soto zen, from japan and one of the branches that dont teach things combined with any existing beliefs, it teaches as a pure philosophy so whatever you bring into it with you is what you keep with you, my own master/teacher was himself jewish )

    that said.. everything in the universe from matter, energy, dark matter, dark energy etc is all information, that includes us, and everything we know,,, information is never destroyed, but the universe recycles that information and energies - just as a dying star exploding produced the minerals and metals that helpped feed and birth our own star, our world.. us....Once were gone, the electrical impulses, the energy, the information that was us is reused, some back to the world, some back to the cosmos and who knows in a few billion years even a shred of what was once me may be absorbed into a nebula and be part the mechanics that fuels the birth of a new star...

    in my mind...being part of that cycle, being truly part of the very fabric of this, or countless universes- with everyone on this world and others, all these amazing and beautiful forms found through the universe....to be part of that , to have always been part of that even before there was a " me" or an " us" ... nothing is more beautiful, nothing is more poetic or makes me feel part of something truly amazing than that... I dont need the idea of a afterlife or a deity to feel blessed, or motivated, or encouraged to be a good person to everyone or everything around me, or for security, i find that in just how the tapestry of existence in general is woven.
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    People that dont believe in GOD will burn in hell for eternity.

    Im OK with that.

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