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    Hi,
    Am a newbie in here. I recently met a guy online who is proposing me skype shows who he would pay via PayPal. I am kind of up for it, but first I would like to know how will he pay, second info regarding entertaining him with the show (how distant shall I leave laptop, on the bed?..), third how much $ shall I ask for an hour, if is possible to know and forth is there a chance that he can secretly record me and how to take precautions? Also good if you have any post to recommend.

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    DO NOT USE PAYPAL!!
    They are not adult friendly, read the TOS.
    IP ban
    $500 fine
    Frozen associated bank account
    Possible bailiffs to retrieve fine
    Damaged credit file
    Guy can see your REAL information including name and address
    Chargebacks (he will steal from you)

    Use indiebill, deliverycode or livecammodelshows to take payments at only a 15% cut.

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    Thanks sexysusie. But I am no a cam girl, so i don't really want to subscribe to indiebill etc. But at the same time i want to protect my privacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace108 View Post
    Thanks sexysusie. But I am no a cam girl, so i don't really want to subscribe to indiebill etc. But at the same time i want to protect my privacy.
    Anything you transmit through the internet can be recorded at any time. There is no way you can prevent this. Once you do shows for this guy, then you're a camgirl just like us so not sure why you are insisting you aren't. It doesn't take that long to set up a legit payment method so why not go ahead? especially since it sounds like you are wanting to do more than one show with this guy, and as far as pricing, personally I wouldn't do an entire hour for less than 200 dollars.

    Don't be surprised if he disappears when you offer a legit payment method where he actually has to pay money. Guys who ask for Paypal are usually scammers who never intended paying you in the first place and planned to take the money back after you did the show for them.


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    Disclaimer: I'm going to answer your questions, but please pay attention to all the stuff at the end!**

    Quote Originally Posted by Grace108 View Post
    Hi,
    Am a newbie in here. I recently met a guy online who is proposing me skype shows who he would pay via PayPal. I am kind of up for it, but first I would like to know how will he pay,
    Don't use paypal. They will not protect your personal info, and there is a good likelihood that you will lose your money, if not get banned from paypal forever. This is true for pretty much all person-to-person transfer services. The guy can almost always cancel the payment without you knowing, and in many cases he can get your real name and info. That is why we use services like IndieBill, LiveCamModelShows, and CamModelDirectory. If you absolutely refuse to use a legitimate adult payment processor, your best bet is probably to ask for an Amazon gift card. It's still not foolproof, and you can't spend it on rent, but it's the safest option you've got.
    Also, the guy ALWAYS pays first, before you ever even start the call. ALWAYS!!

    second info regarding entertaining him with the show (how distant shall I leave laptop, on the bed?..),
    That's entirely up to you and him. Everyone does it differently.

    third how much $ shall I ask for an hour, if is possible to know
    Please charge at least $3/minute, which would be $180/ hour.

    and forth is there a chance that he can secretly record me
    Yes, he certainly can. It's not hard at all, and you won't be able to tell.

    and how to take precautions?
    You can't. If he wants to record you, he will record you. I personally use VerySoft Webcam Splitter to watermark my cam feed. That way, when people record me, at least my cam name is on the video, so people can look me up, and hopefully it will be advertising.

    But I am no a cam girl, so i don't really want to subscribe to indiebill etc.
    **Ok, please think about this for a minute. If you are going to be performing on cam for money, you ARE a cam girl. You will be exposed to the exact same risks we take. If the guy records you and puts it on the internet, no one will think "Oh, poor girl, she was just playing around on the internet. It's not like she's a cam girl." If you get reported to Paypal, they won't let you off the hook because you're "not a cam girl." They'll treat you like a sex worker and ban you forever.

    Secondly, stop and think about why this guy wants to play with YOU on Skype instead of a cam model. A cam model makes an effort to have the best lighting, cam, computer, and internet, so the image is as clear and crisp as possible. We've spent hours tweaking our settings to make them perfect. A lot of us have tons of toys and outfits. We know about fetishes and fantasies. We know stuff like how far away to put the laptop. And I don't mean this in a mean way, but there are thousands of cam girls on the internet, and some of them are certainly just as hot as you, if not hotter. I'm not saying that you wouldn't deliver a good show, but chances of getting a good show are much better with a real professional.

    So why does he want to play with you instead? My guess is that he thinks he can scam you. He thinks you'll do it for really cheap, or that he'll be able to get his money refunded easily. Cam models (more or less) know what to charge and how to not get scammed, so you're much easier prey. Tell him that you want $3/minute, paid in advance, using something that's not easily refunded, like an Amazon gift card. None of that is at all unreasonable, but I'd bet money that the dude freaks the fuck out and tells you that you're being insane for asking for all that. He'll try to tell you that you're an untrusting bitch if you make him pay first, that you're asking for 10 times what most girls charge, that everyone takes paypal, etc. Those are all lies to try to scam you.

    Alternatively, he's obsessed with you, and this is a good way to get your private info. Cam models use payment services (like LCMS, CMD, and IndieBill) that protect our identities, but you aren't using those services. You don't know which services will give out your info and which won't, so offering to send you money is an easy way to get your name and other info.

    My advice is that if you want to get paid for sex services (like skype sex), you should accept that that makes you a cam girl. Accept the risks of a professional sex worker, take the precautions we take, and learn how to do it right. If you don't want to be a cam girl, then don't be a cam girl at all. Trying to half-ass camming (or any other sex work) is how you get hurt.
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    ^^^To all this Yes and....


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    Hey girls, just to be clear: When I say 'i am no a cam girls' I say it because I work in another type of adult industry that requires from me the same amount of effort that requires to you to be perfect in performing as cam girls. For this when i get his proposal i first though if I do want to invest other time and energy in setting up a cam girl base. As my business is another and at the moment I don't have guaranties I would do a second show ever. Because of this I was wandering if is there a simpler way out there. Hence my post between professional can girls, that know tricks and stuff. I would like to know the pro and cons in fact, before decide what to do. And sure does make sense, why he should ask me when he could ask to a professional? This guy would like to be a kind of SD. Obviously I like the chance of getting some payments, but also I don't want to put myself out there and try half-Hass this and have chances to get hurt. Thanks for the amazon whishing list tip which is a good option in my case. But still if I'd risk to be recorded and be on internet without knowing... This SD may be no be a good thing for now..

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    You could take a chance on bank transfer (he doesn't need your name).

    If you take a gift card MAKE SURE to spend some of it before you do the show otherwise he can still cancel the purchase x
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    Thanks. I also leave in UK and he leaves somewhere else. I try to ask him to pay whit another method, which is fine, but when I asked for £200 per hour he complain that is too much exchanged in his currency. On the other side, what can I do: I leave in this country and don't want to do it for less. (£180 at least)

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    @Grace, sorry if I came across as bitchy - I just wanted to be real about this. I'm not implying that YOU are necessarily naive about the adult industry, but some people are, and I'm writing to them, too. Also, adult industry people can be naive about other areas of the industry. I wouldn't know the first thing about how to be safe as a stripper or porn actress, for example. A stripper or escort wouldn't necessarily know about the safety issues with taking electronic payments instead of cash, or about hiding her physical location.

    I also didn't mean to imply that YOU aren't professional in general, or that YOU wouldn't act like a professional with camming. The fact that you came to ask us about it, and that you had specific questions is a good sign. It's possible that you would put the same effort and talent into a cam show as any of us "professionals."

    The question is why any customer would want to play with someone who has never done a cam show, rather than someone that does them for a living. From the customer's perspective, it's a risk - no one, including the girl, knows whether she will do a good show. A girl that never planned on camming has no reason to have the equipment and experience that a cam girl does. She might, but most people don't.
    The main reason is that the customer thinks an amateur is naive and he can take advantage of her. He clearly isn't concerned about whether or not it's a high quality show, so he must be looking for some other benefit, such as a cheap/free show.

    The comment about doing things half-assed wasn't because I think you wouldn't put in effort. It's because people let themselves be dragged into new adult ventures that they aren't ready for and haven't given enough thought. If you're going to start something new in the adult industry, you should ONLY do it because it's something you want and feel ready to do. If a guy is pushing you into an adult activity that you didn't plan to do, 99.999% of the time, it's because there's some benefit to him, not because it will be good for you. If you rush into something because a customer wants it, your preparation, commitment, and risk-prevention will be half-assed, and that's the dangerous part.
    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel
    "dont worry, its slow for other models today"
    I'm not other models, its not slow.

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    Hi magical_hooha, don't worry. Yes you say it, I have no clue about safety issues in camming, as working as exotic dancer mainly, although I am interested. I had good answers to my questions on this thread, which made clearer to me what I want to do. Better to get straight forward advices, from who leave the experience, than get scammed!!

    'If you rush into something because a customer wants it, your preparation, commitment, and risk-prevention will be half-assed, and that's the dangerous part.'

    Yes I am agree with this and I rather make my research in advance and reject the offer rather than get a bunch of $$ that I will regret hardly later. Maybe because I am no used to the cyber word, for me been recorded and putted in the net without my consent, is the hardest bit.

    Few months ago someone advised me to look into camming, as nowadays is a good business. I also try to get some info's, but as I am no very 'technological', I think I have some blocked toward this direction.
    I love the idea of do shows for someone I care, but do shows on skype for strangers is risky, in this way.
    More over: I do pay taxes, as dancer tho and is no very clear to me how it works if this money arrive to me on one of these accounts as indiebill. Sorry must be a very silly question to you, but as you say, I am into cash world no electronic payments...

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    I have a rule. If you're my regular and have spent over 4 figures over the course of time, then you're allowed to send me pp. I have never to this day 6 years into camming, have regular fuck me over on pp. I call it pp privilege. I hype them up too. I tell them they earn that privilege by spending 4 figures on the sites I meet them on, yes I tally up and remember what they spend. When they've shown their loyalty and worth, then they get my pp privilege. I've even had one client spend over 5 figures in one year, which gave him my direct deposit privilege to my bank account. Yes, these regulars have a chance to know my private info, but I make sure he builds rapport with me and displays zero sign of psychosis. Plus I have a biz account address, so they never know my home address. A PO box is worth the investment. And also can be used to receive Amazon wishlist gifts. Win win.
    In short, I use pp as an incentive for them to spend more to earn that privilege. But I win in end because I get the full amount instead of high cuts others sites take. It makes them feel special to have that privilege. And when you present it as a priviledge, they will side with respecting you and your privacy more.
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    This is what some guys do, they look for someone who is new to camming or not done it before, they suggest paypal and when you suggest other payment methods instead, they come up with as many reasons as they can think of why you should use paypal...these guys are trying to scam you.

    This man will have to deal with the exchange rate issue no matter what method of payment he uses, and has he not seen how much cheaper the pound is these days? If he genuinely can't afford a show, that is his problem, don't let him make it yours.
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    For sure, what is he doing? I think he wanted some more continuos connection, but. Was he expecting I make him pay in his currency haha?? Or probably wanted to scam me. Btw he helped, in the sense I asked about questions I had for long time about camming. Is it really true that if someone is recording, there is no way to find it out? Also, how it works with the money in those electronic payment accounts and taxes? Anyone could help please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace108 View Post
    Is it really true that if someone is recording, there is no way to find it out?
    Yes, this is really true. I'm not going to post info on how they can do it, but any idiot that is smart enough to use skype is capable of getting a video of you without your knowledge. More tech savvy guys can get a better quality video. The only way you'll know is that the guy might accidentally tell you (some of them think it's totally legitimate to record us), or you'll find the video posted online. It's also possible that the video gets posted under categories that you would never think to search, and you never even realize that there are videos of you out there.

    Also, I should mention that I know some very nice customers that have admitted that they sometimes record shows to watch later. It's not just the assholes that do it.

    Also, how it works with the money in those electronic payment accounts and taxes? Anyone could help please?
    This depends a lot on what country you live in. The indie cam sites pay you a percent of the amount the guy spends (CamModelDirectory = 75-80%; LiveCamModelShows = 85%, IndieBill = 85%). They pay you using a compatible method depending on what's available in your country (for example, direct deposit, wire transfer, paper check, Paxum account, etc.). Getting paid varies a lot depending on the site and your country. Then you pay taxes on the amount you got paid (the 75-85%), just like you pay taxes for your stripping income.
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    "dont worry, its slow for other models today"
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    Keep in mind men will say anything to get what they want. Many will promise big money of becoming a SD when they won't spend any at all.

    He will record it, you can bet that about 85% then he will upload to as many tubesites as possible & try to make money off of it. There is no way you can guarantee that he won't.

    See how much he is into you first by seeing if he will buy you gifts from Amazon with no expectations at all. Find when a girl gets expensive & wants something for their time to even email or chat about such stuff runs off the con artist & broke guys who get off on just talking to you.

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    I tend to agree with SweetieBitch
    I had the guy who had spent over a grand on me during my first few days! into camming and then sommore that seemed so crazy to me back then. and yeah he wanted to get my personal info and such and skype sessions using pp and something else I dont rememeber which I declined. Long story short it ended badly in 1 year. I am happy I did not share any personal info with him though he seemed nice and normal from the start. I am not doing it and I dont see myself doing it ever and I dont care how much money one has spent.
    There are way too many stories of people getting fucked up by their real life partners of many years...why would I trust some guy on cam?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetieBitch View Post
    4 figures over the course of time... as in, more than $1000? Lol, that's the equivalent of a few long block sessions for me. Guys easily spend that in a week or less on some girls. I would never trust a guy based on that alone.

    It's naive to think that you can trust someone or expect them to "respect you and your privacy more" just because they've given you a relatively large amount of money. In fact I would argue that could make them even more likely to hold it against you someday.

    Also, huge facepalm at "I make sure he displays zero sign of psychosis." Lol... How can you *ever* be certain? I think regulars may be the most likely to potentially become creepy and obsessive over time. I've had to permanently block a few seemingly sane regulars who have spent thousands on me, because after a while they convinced themselves that "we" were in love, insisting I should stop camming so that we could start a family together, among other ridiculous delusional statements. I'm grateful I had the ability to block them and not worry about it anymore. And I never had to worry about them figuring out my private personal information since I only cammed through a legit secure site. Not sure what option you'll have if you ever run into an issue like that with your "privileged" paypal regs.

    You do you... I just hope other girls won't.
    Again, the privilege I speak of is of men spending over the course of time, NOT in one shot. Have men spent over 4 figures in one shot? Yes. Perfect example. I recently had a guy spend $1500 on NF, I didn't jump to offer him pp just because he earned the priviledge on the first shot. I left him alone. Weeks later, he spent a few hundred on NF. I still didn't even mention the pp priviledge. Then a few weeks later after that, he dropped another several hundred, but this time, I noticed he used a new screen name. That had me wondering, did he do a chargeback with NF and had to signup again under a new email and credit card? Red flag. That's why I only give pp priviledge over a course of time, not weeks. Sorry if I didn't make the clear, it's not just about 4 figures. They have to establish rapport with me for a period of time, on top of spending over 4 figures. And again, my pp uses my biz name and po box so none of my personal info is readily available. Plus I live in a guarded community comparable to Fort Knox and my IP is scrambled in the multi unit complex. I feel safe. This is what works for me and only giving advice to anyone who wants to try the same to take same precautions and then some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikiwiki View Post
    Again, the privilege I speak of is of men spending over the course of time, NOT in one shot. Have men spent over 4 figures in one shot? Yes. Perfect example. I recently had a guy spend $1500 on NF, I didn't jump to offer him pp just because he earned the priviledge on the first shot. I left him alone. Weeks later, he spent a few hundred on NF. I still didn't even mention the pp priviledge. Then a few weeks later after that, he dropped another several hundred, but this time, I noticed he used a new screen name. That had me wondering, did he do a chargeback with NF and had to signup again under a new email and credit card? Red flag. That's why I only give pp priviledge over a course of time, not weeks. Sorry if I didn't make the clear, it's not just about 4 figures. They have to establish rapport with me for a period of time, on top of spending over 4 figures. And again, my pp uses my biz name and po box so none of my personal info is readily available. Plus I live in a guarded community comparable to Fort Knox and my IP is scrambled in the multi unit complex. I feel safe. This is what works for me and only giving advice to anyone who wants to try the same to take same precautions and then some.
    I too work a lot like this. I really dont recommend it for newer models

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    Why would you EVER risk using PayPal? You can take payments via indiebill or LCMS for only a 15 % cut or hell if you want 100% so bad you can even take bank transfer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    Why would you EVER risk using PayPal? You can take payments via indiebill or LCMS for only a 15 % cut or hell if you want 100% so bad you can even take bank transfer!
    I give them that option as well.

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    DON'T use paypal I had a person contact me today on twitter asking if I use it...I never do and told him that. I went to his page just to see what he was about just cause and guess what I found...him @paypl that he had "mysterious" transations on his account and that his account was hacked...pssh don't let the losers fool you. If they want a show with you they will use your sex work friendly processors.

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    @Cocoabunni
    I like your GIF signature. Actually i'd wear such an outfit on cam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutie101 View Post
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    I like your GIF signature. Actually i'd wear such an outfit on cam
    Ty hun, it's from one of Beyonce's videos. Lol I would either die in that outfit or tell my custies no nude shows. I always feel like I'm dyin when I'm trying to hurry up and get in and out of clothes in btw shows on those busy nights.

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    Just an FYI:

    Offering Skype shows by PayPal to Streamate customers will get you permanently banned on the first offense. There is no warning or second chance. We found this out today when someone decided to test the theory.

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