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    So reading my real life social media and noticed this is starting to do the rounds now.

    http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...ult-sites.html

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    This may be a relevant place too to raise awareness of the snooper's charter that has gone through.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7426461.html

    This week a law was passed that silently rips privacy from the modern world. It’s called the Investigatory Powers Act.

    Under the guise of counter-terrorism, the British state has achieved totalitarian-style surveillance powers – the most intrusive system of any democracy in history. It now has the ability to indiscriminately hack, intercept, record, and monitor the communications and internet use of the entire population.

    The fact that you’re on this website is – potentially – state knowledge. Service providers must now store details of everything you do online for 12 months – and make it accessible to dozens of public authorities.
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    Open rights group is fighting it in court. Join to help www.openrightsgroup.org
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    https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/

    If asking for credit card details becomes common or permissible, and a credible ask in the minds of UK citizens, then the government will have created a gold mine for criminals to operate scam porn sites targeted at the UK, inviting people to supply their credit cards to scam sites for “Age Verification”. In fact you could see this being extended to all manner of sites that a criminal could claim were “blocked until you prove you’re over 18”.

    Once credit card details are harvested, in return for some minimal/copyright infringing porn access at a scam porn site, then criminals can of course resell them for fraud. Another easy to understand example of a criminal abusing this system is that you could see criminals typo-squatting on relevant domain names such as youporm.com and asking for a credit card to gain access. Anything that normalises the entry of credit card details into pages where the user isn’t making a payment will increase the fraudulent use of such cards. And if a website is validating credit cards to prove age, but not verifying them, then the internationally agreed standards to protect credit card data are unlikely to apply to them.
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    I was chatting about the snooper charter with hubbie and he said

    The UK gov doesnt have enough processing power right now as even a supercomputer couldnt churn model that much data in a year. Given tech savvy people use vpns with aes and blowfish encryption which still hasnt been broken other than in theory. The savvy user is still private.

    When alcatraz was built there was only so many machine gun kelly and Al capons they could imprison so to justify the cost of such a thing they will turn to low hanging fruit. Benifit frauds being an example as once your in a vpn which many tech savvy people are including the very people they are hunting they will have to have results quickly to help with the cost. they cant say its to fight terror in the short term as they cant crunch that much data "yet". 3 billion records takes a while in a hadoop stack so you would be talking about billions upon billions of rows of data a day being generated as the UK is a very connected country. So unless your a low hanging peice of fruit as you dont have basic protection like antivirus and firewall. Vpn Router firewall its not really going to effect you

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    Snooper's charter - A list of who will have the power to access your internet connection records is set out in Schedule 4 of the Act.

    Metropolitan police force
    City of London police force
    Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996
    Police Service of Scotland
    Police Service of Northern Ireland
    British Transport Police
    Ministry of Defence Police
    Royal Navy Police
    Royal Military Police
    Royal Air Force Police
    Security Service
    Secret Intelligence Service
    GCHQ
    Ministry of Defence
    Department of Health
    Home Office
    Ministry of Justice
    National Crime Agency
    HM Revenue & Customs
    Department for Transport
    Department for Work and Pensions
    NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services
    Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service
    Competition and Markets Authority
    Criminal Cases Review Commission
    Department for Communities in Northern Ireland
    Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland
    Department of Justice in Northern Ireland
    Financial Conduct Authority
    Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004
    Food Standards Agency
    Food Standards Scotland
    Gambling Commission
    Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority
    Health and Safety Executive
    Independent Police Complaints Commissioner
    Information Commissioner
    NHS Business Services Authority
    Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust
    Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board
    Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation
    Office of Communications
    Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland
    Police Investigations and Review Commissioner
    Scottish Ambulance Service Board
    Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission
    Serious Fraud Office
    Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust
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    Damn. And I mean this in a light hearted way.

    If you called an ambulance. They could check to see if you moaned about the 5hr wait in accident and emergency once to see if they should respond quickly

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    Personally I believe they've had access for a long time, just this new bill/law has made it legal.

    I find it incredibly co-incidental that I can have a 2-way voice convo on my landline phone, and then merely hours later one of the spoken-about topics pops up on Facebook as a "suggested post" advert.
    Happens all the time to me.

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    I read that what they can do now goes further than the State spying that Snowden uncovered. Don't shrug this off by saying that they've already been doing this, this is a serious attack on our Civil Liberties whether legal or not. I think that messenger has it in it's terms to listen to your calls.
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    Facebook is listening through your mobile
    Google as well..

    But Katy is correct even snowdon didnt see how bad this was going to be for the public. They dont have the process power so you would have to flag first. And dpa is 6 years not 1 year. So until they refine what they are looking for they will start with the easy targets.

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7433551.html

    "A new bill will ban huge swathes of sex acts from UK porn.

    The Digital Economy Bill looks to ban anything that wouldn’t be allowed on a commercially-available DVD. That seems to limit adult content in a number of ways, banning things including female ejaculation and the sight of menstrual blood from all pornographic videos.

    While there are no strict guidelines as to what acts and images can’t be shown on commercial DVDs, adult film producers have found that they have had to cut almost all kinds of non-conventional videos from their films.

    Such restrictions include the “four-finger rule”, for instance, which limits the number of digits that can be placed into any orifice while on video.

    The BBFC’s guidelines give a non-exhaustive list of all of the things that will not be accepted in R18 — the regulators’ highest restriction and the one that all porn shown to users in the UK must now satisfy.

    They include rules about “penetration by any object associated with violence”, for instance. They also ban any sexual act deemed “obscene” under the Obscene Publications Act, which was passed in 1959.

    Adult film producers and activists have complained that such restrictions place huge limits on the kinds of sexual activity that can be displayed and so constitute a form of censorship.

    If porn sites showed any videos that were more extreme to UK users then they would be breaking the law, according to the proposed bill. It wouldn’t ban those websites from hosting the material, but they must not ever be shown to anyone in Britain.

    The Digital Economy Bill as so far been almost entirely criticised for its age verification clauses, which require any porn website to check whether its users are over 18. That’s likely to lead to a database of viewing habits being held by companies or by the government, which experts have warned could easily be hacked and exposed.

    But the provision banning any video that wouldn’t pass through the British film regulators’ tests could lead to even more videos becoming unavailable in the UK.

    As part of the British Board of Film Classification’s agreement to regulate the new age restrictions, it will also check through sites and see whether they are hosting videos that the BBFC would refuse to classify. If they are, then they could be shut down under the terms of the bill.

    A representative confirmed to the Guardian that the BBFC would be checking through videos and applying the same standards to online pornography that it would offline. Just as with problems with age verification, if the BBFC finds a site it objects to then it will send a “notification of non-compliance” meant to force the site to stop."
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    "Pictures and videos that show spanking, whipping or caning that leaves marks, and sex acts involving urination, female ejaculation or menstruation as well as sex in public are likely to be caught by the ban – in effect turning back the clock on Britain’s censorship regime to the pre-internet era." https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...et-pornography

    Well that's the British schoolgirl spanking/caning industry gone. There's a whole ton of movies on AW that include public sex, urination and periods!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    "Pictures and videos that show spanking, whipping or caning that leaves marks, and sex acts involving urination, female ejaculation or menstruation as well as sex in public are likely to be caught by the ban – in effect turning back the clock on Britain’s censorship regime to the pre-internet era." https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...et-pornography

    Well that's the British schoolgirl spanking/caning industry gone. There's a whole ton of movies on AW that include public sex, urination and periods!
    jesus what the hell :/

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    It's worth finding out the detail...I know it's been posted on another thread. This one is worth reading but I can't see period blood mentioned http://mylesjackman.com/index.php/my...not-acceptable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    It's worth finding out the detail...I know it's been posted on another thread. This one is worth reading but I can't see period blood mentioned http://mylesjackman.com/index.php/my...not-acceptable
    gagging on cock is ok but saying gag on my cock isnt
    ??????????? ergh this is just so :/ maybe rather than censoring porn we should be putting money into proper sex education which teaches people not to copy porn?

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    Its all laws written by out of date mps. Vpn companys have already started increasing advertising in the UK. In relation to both laws.

    Hell some vpns you can even pay with a gift card that you buy for cash in a shop and give them the code.

    If we the general public can do so then the people they are actually targeting are goung to be even harder to spy on leaving all the low hanging fruit only as they have to make sure there are arrests from the volume of money they are going to pump into this.

    Benefit frauds look out. They really are after you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessaJade View Post
    I'm so angry. Female ejaculation, menstrual blood and other consensal acts aren't allowed, but underage and rape depictions are not on this list so must he deemed OK. FFS misogyny much

    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...et-pornography
    one of the other articles here lists ageplay as being against the rules

    its rubbish though either way

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    These have been in place since Feb 2016. The de bill is just making it obvious now to people who didn't pay attention before because they didn't think it affected 'them'. Join the open rights group, your subscription will help fund actual legal action x
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    Off shore vpn companys are confident that they dont have to provide records

    However a company like hide my ass does keep logs they were involved in a hack case and happy to give users details over. Avoid using onshore vpn companys.

    Basically if you can buy a dvd in the UK legally thats the highest level you are able to see

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    Actually perfectly normal decent people are supporting our side of things. Please sign as the UK dropping out is going to have some impact on the market globally.

    Shocked by some really boring types I know who think its safer to not restrict the industry any more before it goes back to under the counter porn shop stuff.

    https://www.openrightsgroup.org/camp...-legal-content

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    The Digital Economy Bill is having it's second reading in the House of Lords - https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog...t-porn-cock-up

    "Plans, outlined in the Digital Economy Bill, to make the Internet safe for children are in a worse state than when the Bill was first published this Autumn. It’s now down to peers to sort them out as the Bill has its second reading in the House of Lords."
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    I know you keep mentioning VPNs but there are some castes that don't want you camming while using one.

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    I am really confused about all of this. I have tried to do my research but it all seems incredibly vague. I really want to know the practicalities of the situation. If this gets past the House of Lords does anyone know EXACTLY what this will mean for webcam performers? Some people say they are only focusing on recorded video. Some people say it is both recorded and webcam.
    I cam on MFC - obviously MFC will not conform to the age verification system so does this mean UK viewers will be blocked from watching me and I will have to get a VPN to work?? Most of my clients are from the UK so does this mean I have to get a different shift pattern and appeal to US/AUS clients (I have a few but just not the majority)? When will this actually come about?
    Or do we just not know? Should i just prepare for the worst (get a VPN, inform my uk clients about VPNS, start changing up shift times now) and hope for the best (that they won't focus on webcam). Obviously this would NOT be the best at ALL but I'm just freaking out a bit about the practicalities of my business here.
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    I'm thankful right now im in Denmark and working from there.The uk is fucked and i really hope none of this comes to light as alot of people will find other ways and with that comes the scammers and trackers and selling of data .... oh the joys

    seriously arent these minsters getting enough pussy or some shit !

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    There are two things affecting us: the new porn law going through Parliament now (and still subject to change) and whether we are providers of Video On Demand services (which is already up and running, restricts what we can show and means paying for a license).
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