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    Yes indeed, next month Chrome 55 and Firefox will no longer support Flash!

    Other browsers are following suit and also getting rid of Flash support. Soon all browsers will be plug in free.

    I am pretty sure this is why SM has been so glitchy, they are struggling to get this shit done and move to HTML5.

    Users can still allow flash content via permissions on the new browsers but by default, new browsers will not have native flash support.

    Good article summarizing the upcoming changes: https://bitmovin.com/chrome-firefox-...sh-next-month/

    A more in depth article: http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/comp...11364012393659
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    Default Re: The End of Flash Video

    Sorry hyori, I couldn't help myself.



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    Default Re: The End of Flash Video

    3.2 flme is reportedly the last rtmp server software adobe will do as even that is starting to die out as tech moves forward

    http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2016/...dying-out.html

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    Default Re: The End of Flash Video

    If live cam sites decide on implementing WebRTC, then we can do away with splitters, encoders, Flash, JustCamIt, OBS, etc. Any software needed at this time to stream will go obsolete because of WebRTC. It means that our browsers will be able to encode, stream, pick the best stream, microphone, camera etc. Also, it takes a HUGE load off servers and our connections will have almost no latency because they will essentially be peer to peer rather than going through a bottleneck of servers to everyone watching your stream. It really just becomes communication between you and your customer(s) in true real time, (hence, Web Real Time Connection).

    Chrome already has full capability of this tech right now and you can actually try it out with Talky both on the web and with your Android/iOS devices.

    I am hoping that Streamate will be the first cam site to use this technology. I would assume they would be the first ones to implement it, but, I don't know.
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    I'll admit to being ignorant when it comes to tech talk and not very PC savy, so I don't really understand. Will this mean we all have to go the route of the SM broadcaster? I'm still using the old encoder on my HP laptop. I'll take a look at those articles. thanks

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    We don't know what SM is going to do yet, and in fact MFC will have to do something as well since both sites are flash video at this time. Chrome and Firefox will still have the option to turn on flash if it is needed on a site to site basis but that will disappear come 2017.

    If SM goes completely HTML5 then no we won't need any encoders.

    If MFC goes HTML5 it just means you won't see the little Flash pop up asking you to choose the microphone and camera. That will be the case for any site that uses the flash plug in.

    The only sites I know of right now that use HTML5 are Bonga, Chaturbate, camSoda and Cam4.

    Also, if any cam site decides to go with webRTC, live VR camming will be very much feasible and affordable for all theoretically.
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    Might explain why bonga runs so great

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    What does it all mean???


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    Sites have no choice but to fix shit. Pc specs we need will lower. No more plugins. No more shit encoder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenasecret View Post
    Sites have no choice but to fix shit. Pc specs we need will lower. No more plugins. No more shit encoder
    Thanks, thanks for the Cliff's Notes on this!


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    Now everyman and his dog can live stream more gets infested into it. Hell I can stream 720p live on my twitter with a mobile yet we need an air traffic control spec pc for the same thing with SM. Its going to be interesting to see how this plays out if they go for an off the shelf method or they are going to be totally exclusive format. Off the shelf is cheaper and quicker for them and makes more sence however they wouldnt be the first company that thinks of I will do it our way for it all to go wrong. But when mobile phones can live stream in HD with no issues it does make you wonder why we need a pc forged in mordor and requires hobbits to built it. Just no need. Hell even 4k games run on less specs than the smbroadcast software.

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    Default Re: The End of Flash Video

    So what would the implications be for placements/hierarchy in sites like SM where so much is riding on models' tech specs? Sorry I am not tech-savvy and am fascinated by this development.

    Quote Originally Posted by hyori View Post
    We don't know what SM is going to do yet, and in fact MFC will have to do something as well since both sites are flash video at this time. Chrome and Firefox will still have the option to turn on flash if it is needed on a site to site basis but that will disappear come 2017.

    If SM goes completely HTML5 then no we won't need any encoders.

    If MFC goes HTML5 it just means you won't see the little Flash pop up asking you to choose the microphone and camera. That will be the case for any site that uses the flash plug in.

    The only sites I know of right now that use HTML5 are Bonga, Chaturbate, camSoda and Cam4.

    Also, if any cam site decides to go with webRTC, live VR camming will be very much feasible and affordable for all theoretically.
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    Default Re: The End of Flash Video

    It would probably concentrate more on the other stuff like is audio enabled, time online and $ made

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    Is the SM broadcaster flash based?

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    OBS, ladies. It's time to jump ship into the latest and coolest tech.

    This thing is much MUCH faster than Flash and MUCH less taxing on the computer than FLME, xsplit and other streaming programs. There's a reason why almost every Twitch.tv streamer uses it, because thanks to GPU acceleration (Using either an intel CPU with integrated graphics or an Nvidia graphics card) it'll offload the encoding work from the CPU, allowing it all to run faster and smoother.

    It also works on Streamate (Much better than SM Broadcast) and doesn't compromises placement or anything.

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    Yeah osb rocks however I can never get it to stream to Streamate. Its a really lite on the cpu rtmp even at 1080p 3,500kbps. Could you post a how to on which parts for the ftmp server to connect it to?

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    It will upset SM ranks unless they base it only on income. Amping up the stettings in the flme will get you a temporary boost in rank until it settles back down.

    But osb works on Windows Mac and Linux (unbuntu and mint) so if it does work on Streamate then a old duocore2 would in essence be fine to use greatly reducing the price of camgirl tech

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    To use OBS, you just need to select "Custom" in the drop down to put the rtmp links into the proper areas.

    OBS is pretty damn awesome, it only uses 10% of my cpu when I use it on Streamate. The only problem is you can't split sites with it if they don't use encoders themselves so sites like MFC/CB won't split because OBS takes priority of the camera and it won't show in Verysoft.
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    Spoof second screen method. Then open second instance display spoof screen in and you have 2 split sites.

    The links just never work for me. :-(

    I had to work out that for minecraft videos

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    ^^ That's fucking brilliant. Thank you.
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    Every kid wants to be a youtuber these days lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyori View Post
    We don't know what SM is going to do yet, and in fact MFC will have to do something as well since both sites are flash video at this time. Chrome and Firefox will still have the option to turn on flash if it is needed on a site to site basis but that will disappear come 2017.

    If SM goes completely HTML5 then no we won't need any encoders.

    If MFC goes HTML5 it just means you won't see the little Flash pop up asking you to choose the microphone and camera. That will be the case for any site that uses the flash plug in.

    The only sites I know of right now that use HTML5 are Bonga, Chaturbate, camSoda and Cam4.

    Also, if any cam site decides to go with webRTC, live VR camming will be very much feasible and affordable for all theoretically.
    I was just snooping around on Cam4 and saw a profile with a VR Private option. hmmmm

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    with all these changes and the fact the browsers are pretty much forcing SM to fix their shit do u think that working on SM will eventually be more profitable again and less glitchy or is traffic still the big issue ?
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    Issue for them is is how much have they damaged the traffic with all the gitches and issues? I got many regs from Streamate on another site as they got fed up with the issues and problems.

    Even if it becomes as smooth as bonga cams what damage has been done to the paying traffic by having a bad experience and what are they willing to do to get it back.

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    Im over here like STREAMATE FUCKING KNEW THIS WAS HAPPENING TWO FUCKING YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol I wanted to scream that and not even sure if two years ago is up to date what to today?

    I really dont know what it means that tech support said to me one day during a techy issue... "flash will be obsolete soon, thank god"
    So being the camgirl that doesnt know shit about tech shit until I physically watch them with my eyeballs, assumed streamate knew this fact was coming since it was told to me.... and I truly think that our % is going to the good .. so ya, my thoughts dont really mean shit

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