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    Question Switching to Dom without losing vanilla clients

    I'm sure this has been discussed but I can't find a thread on it. I'd like to move towards dom camming because it's just more interesting to me, I have a bossy personality, and I have some experience with SPH and cuckhold fantasy IRL. However I don't want to alienate and lose money from the basic vanilla cum show guys. How do you tread the line? Should I say I do both on my profile, or stick to vanilla on one site and dom on another? Maybe I'm overthinking this.

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    Default Re: Switching to Dom without losing vanilla clients

    I make it clear on my profiles that I'm open to anything. From my 'likes' list it's pretty obvious I have a more dominant bent, although I mention in my bios dirty talk, nudity, toys etc. Not had an issue being both x
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    Default Re: Switching to Dom without losing vanilla clients

    You could just make two personas while camming. You can play the domme on certain sites and vanilla on other sites. That could be better for you as well.

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    Default Re: Switching to Dom without losing vanilla clients

    I do both and state the things I offer on my profile. The guys who want me to control them will ask for that...the guys who just want me to strip and masturbate will ask for that. Don't make it complicated...just do everything you enjoy

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    Default Re: Switching to Dom without losing vanilla clients

    I do both and offer both on most of my profiles on most sites. I do it because I enjoy both vanilla and domme work (though lately fetish and domme are my favorites) and it brings me more business, especially on sites like Streamate.

    On Niteflirt and on Clips4sale though I do have dedicated domme-only profiles which are a lot of fun to experiment with.


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    I was wondering if anyone had any real luck with doing dom shows/non-nudity on streamate at a price of 9.99 or more? I was thinking about giving this a go being that everything is recorded now. I don't mind being recorded but I just don't want to be nude. I'm very much like the girl next door...flirty, playful etc so I really gotta learn the Dom ways. But I think I can...I have a very dark look and could be a bitch lol! I wonder if I could throw in the girl next door stuff etc as well without getting nude but really ride on the dom personality overall. I see some girls on streamate doing this but I don't know if they are very successful at it. It looks like some have a hard time so I wasnt sure if there is even a niche for this. I would like to use no sound in free and when they go private I turn on sound but maybe i'm asking too much LOL!

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    Default Re: Switching to Dom without losing vanilla clients

    I'm wondering if anyone knows of any good dom books or training stuff that is out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotmodel View Post
    I'm wondering if anyone knows of any good dom books or training stuff that is out there?
    Have a browse through Clips4Sale and do a search under the different sub-categories (ex SPH, Foot worship, Cuckolding etc). Maybe buy a couple of clips and see. I find visuals better than reading but that's just me.

    Also, there are discussion boards on Fetlife that may give you some ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotmodel View Post
    I'm wondering if anyone knows of any good dom books or training stuff that is out there?
    I probably sound like a broken record on this topic, but if you like to read, read some erotica.

    Most "how to" type reading materials are not geared toward us. They are mostly written for people that are going to be playing IRL, so they focus on topics like finding a playmate, safety, and how to interact in a long term arrangement (e.g. how to train your sub). For us, that doesn't really make sense, because we aren't exactly constrained by physical reality, and we may or may not have an ongoing relationship with the customer. In some cases, we might be working with less than 10 minutes.

    Erotica makes more sense in our context because it's geared toward the fantasy realm. It's often a heightened version of reality, and that's what we sell. If you pay attention with erotica (and sometimes even if you don't) a lot of things might stick out as not physically possible, or super hot but not really safe. For example, I don't feel comfortable using my strap on in real life - it includes a dildo that I find way too large/hard/textured to put in my pussy, much less someone's ass, and my irl experience with man-ass is limited. If I wanted to peg irl, I'd spend a long time getting experience and learning about my partner using fingers first. On cam, none of that matters, and my biggest issue with destroying a custie's ass is that I want a cuter harness with a bigger, blacker dildo.
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    Default Re: Switching to Dom without losing vanilla clients

    thank you ladies for your input =) I was curious...with being a dom that does not get nude. How far do you go with non nudity. Like lets say for example...tease and denial. Would you get down to bra and panties and rub lets say over or under the bra and panties? and thats as far as you would go? I think I would feel comfortable going that far if I say non-nude/dom or even just non-nude. But is that going too far nude with being a dom? So would you say that is going into a Sub? but then again how do you do tease and denial or even put on a strap on without being in panties? I guess you could wear leggings? Just was curious how Dom/non-nude ladies handle how far they go nude but stay non-nude if that makes sense.

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    Default Re: Switching to Dom without losing vanilla clients

    I knew I had saw a thread on this somewhere but I couldn't find it until I posted mine lol.

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    Default Re: Switching to Dom without losing vanilla clients

    I've very recently switched over from doing vanilla to being a dom without masturbation or penetration. I knew vanilla wasn't for me as I got bored after about 5 minutes lol. For my shows though, I do state that I'm happy to show off my body but won't take on a submissive role. I've marketed myself as both a sub and dom before and had no real trouble with guys asking for both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoriavein View Post
    I'm sure this has been discussed but I can't find a thread on it. I'd like to move towards dom camming because it's just more interesting to me, I have a bossy personality, and I have some experience with SPH and cuckhold fantasy IRL. However I don't want to alienate and lose money from the basic vanilla cum show guys. How do you tread the line? Should I say I do both on my profile, or stick to vanilla on one site and dom on another? Maybe I'm overthinking this.

    Personally being a domme cammer and PSO who has had great success, I wanted to answer this. I made the switch and this is what happened. I reached a point in my life where i became dominant and my submissive side died. I became too Alpha and a femdom. I truly believe men are the inferior weak gender. Unless you feel this way I would not market myself as a domme. I would market myself as a switch. Being a domme you are going to attract a lot of fake loser subs. If you are viewed as a fake domme guys will run amok on you. Your vulnerable side plays against you if you are going to attract real slaves/submissive clients. You will end up alienating your client base and turn of dominant males if your calling them losers or pigs asking them for money. You WILL lose a lot of clients. I lost a big fanbase where i was a very high earning performer on a very popular site. For me It was worth it because being submissive makes me ILL. If a dominant client approaches me I will send them away or suggest a model that is too my liking. Nothing turns me off more than a dominant man thinking he deserves or is entitled to my body. even simple little things like dancing on a cam or showing your breasts for tips deems you as weaker as a dom. You will have to readjust your behavior for your image or you will just look all over the place and attract the wrong type of sub clients. The time wasters, losers, and pathetic broke assholes.

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    One option for you could be to market yourself as a brat, mother figure, or cuckold wife. Something that gives you power over some that are weak and not a full dominant. The submissive route is definitely easier to do than the domme route and money is just as good if you market correctly. It's best to discover exactly what you are and what you appear to people. Exploit it to the fullest benefit.

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    This thread is really interesting and something I've been thinking a lot about over the last couple of years. The guest above wrote something that I felt summed things up for me well, too: " Nothing turns me off more than a dominant man thinking he deserves or is entitled to my body." Yep, same..I just don't put on a good show if I'm being anything *but* dominant or at the very least, in control and calling the shots. Sometimes I think I overthink this, as honestly, what I'm doing seems to be working pretty well: sensual domme whose default isn't "Hello, loser pigs" but more, "Welcome to my lair, pervert! Tell me about yourself."..Then I turn bratty/cruel if they clearly are steering it that way. Anyway, my point is, I feel like I'm 85% transitioned to domme now lol, but I still do the occasional vanilla show. I just don't like attracting certain guys and I feel, unless I go full, strict domme, I may still get some of those. My clips on the other hand are all femdom or fetish-related. But I like doing nude still sometimes, I have no problem being nude at all - I like it! Anyone have similar debates with themselves?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arwen25 View Post
    This thread is really interesting and something I've been thinking a lot about over the last couple of years. The guest above wrote something that I felt summed things up for me well, too: " Nothing turns me off more than a dominant man thinking he deserves or is entitled to my body." Yep, same..I just don't put on a good show if I'm being anything *but* dominant or at the very least, in control and calling the shots. Sometimes I think I overthink this, as honestly, what I'm doing seems to be working pretty well: sensual domme whose default isn't "Hello, loser pigs" but more, "Welcome to my lair, pervert! Tell me about yourself."..Then I turn bratty/cruel if they clearly are steering it that way. Anyway, my point is, I feel like I'm 85% transitioned to domme now lol, but I still do the occasional vanilla show. I just don't like attracting certain guys and I feel, unless I go full, strict domme, I may still get some of those. My clips on the other hand are all femdom or fetish-related. But I like doing nude still sometimes, I have no problem being nude at all - I like it! Anyone have similar debates with themselves?!
    I actually miss nude shows. I like doing vanilla/nude/sexy shows but only on the basis that it's a sensual exploratory two way street. I love to be filthy and blow their minds. I actually really miss it. But I haven't found a way as yet to be domme yet let them know I'm open to that lol. I just take it as it comes rather than advertise that I do it.
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    I was domme only for the first few years on cam and I wanted to mix it up with vanilla, so started adding it. Now sometimes I don't feel like doing vanilla and my vanilla custies know to just ask if i'm in the vanilla mood and i'll let them know yay or nay.




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    I know what you mean, Susie. Part of the reason I made the eventual transition was because I found it a more of a challenge, and it was just stimulating me a bit more. But sometimes I miss the simplicity of a vanilla show. That's not to say vanilla camming is "easy" it was just what I started with naturally.

    Ggminx - that's a really interesting approach! I like that you have that sort of relationship with your clients. Sounds like you're attracting the right kind of vanilla guys!

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